Why did Madara not used Tsukyomi or Amaterasu during the fight?

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I have some burning question. Why did Madara not used Tsukyomi or Amaterasu during the fight with Hashi? I Wonder how Hashirama would counter those 2 abilities cuz: 1st, you'd have to have the Sharingan to have a chance to counter Tsukyuomi. 2nd, you would need to have super speed (like raikage/minato) to counter Amaterasu. How would Hashirima counter those? So I think Madara isn't using those 2 abilities for some reason. Maybe his sole purpose is to steal Hashi's cells? Maybe in the end, Madara's death was merely a genjutsu that he cast to end the battle so he can quickly be on his marry way to go experiment with the cells? And do you guys remember Itachi stating that the EMS unlocks a "new 4th power" after susanoo? We haven't seen that 4th power yet neither. Maybe Kishi will finally reveal that 4th power as madara's final trumph card to counter the 1000 hands jutsu? If that's the case, then I'm really super excited to see what this power will be.
 

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I don't think he can use Amateratsu?

Someone else stated it's a move only Itachi can use I think?

As for Tsukoyomi Idk
 

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Because he doesn't have Amaterasu.
 

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Because He is a op f@g that wants to suck on the 1st hokage left nut
 

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Because plot-no-jutsu.
 

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we'll the fights nor over yet, maybe he will use it. zand no, Itachi is not the only one who can use Amateratsu, Sasuke can too. And from the look of it, I think Sasuke can use it better than Itachi could. I mean Sasuke did wrap his Susanoo with Amateratsu and all...Just sayin.
 

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well i dont think he has amaterasu in the first place but hey what do i now he hasn't displayed any EMS techniques apart from susanoo
 

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we'll the fights nor over yet, maybe he will use it. zand no, Itachi is not the only one who can use Amateratsu, Sasuke can too. And from the look of it, I think Sasuke can use it better than Itachi could. I mean Sasuke did wrap his Susanoo with Amateratsu and all...Just sayin.


Amaterasu was Itachi's as well as Tsukoyomi... the only reason Sasuke could use Amaterasu is because he transplanted Itachis eyes to his body. Remember when Itachi and Sasuke fought, Itachi used Amaterasu and Sasuke pulled lighting from the sky. Since Itachi died and Sasuke had his eyes, Sasuke now can use Amaterasu and Tsukoyomi. Also Itachi knew that Sasuke will use his (Itachi's) eyes after his death and prepared the eyes of Shishiu with a genjutsu implant to activate once it gets in contact with Itachis eyes.
 

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hashirama was lucky that madara didn't have amertarasu
 

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It is a Itachi special move, at least I understand it that way. The reason why sasuke is able to use it was because Itachi implanted some jutsu into sasuke so he was able to use Itachi abilities... or something like that..
 

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Not all Uchiha have the same Sharingan abilities.
 
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because he doesnt have them....was it ever mentioned he had them? NO

Nowhere in the manga does it say you MUST have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to earn Susanoo. You must simply master your MS eyes/abilities in order to achieve its third power, Susanoo.

Revisit Sasuke's fight with the raikage. He clearly states that you must unlock/master both MS abilities before unleashing Susanoo. He does not mention Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi as a requirement.

Itachi needed to master his MS abilites (Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi) to unlock Susano. That's true for him, not for everyone else.

Dont even get me started with this Databook people bring up, as it specifies you need to unlock both (which is true) because they are both MS abilities of Itachi's. So of course it's required....FOR HIM. Anyways, at that time Itachi was the first person we saw to use it and was unclear if anybody else would have the same ability.
 

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Hashirama's too good for that.
 
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