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What really forced his hand. He was facing the 4th division. Sure they beat the Edos they were facing but this isn't the only division to have done this. So why did he choose to summon Madara for the 4th division?

I'm guessing it's because 2 of the 5 kages were located there. But what is Kabuto really playing at in this war? He's really carrying the whole damn thing!
 

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CasualMisfit said:
What really forced his hand. He was facing the 4th division. Sure they beat the Edos they were facing but this isn't the only division to have done this. So why did he choose to summon Madara for the 4th division?

I'm guessing it's because 2 of the 5 kages were located there. But what is Kabuto really playing at in this war? He's really carrying the whole damn thing!
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lets see what forced his hand hmmm besides naruto killing all his best edos no cant be that hmm how about itachi breaking free and sealing nagato. i think that might be it. plus madara was bound to come out and if kabuto could get the hokages theyd be out there too
 
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His intentions are different than Tobi's. He wants to see what Madara can do before placing full control of the impure world technique on him. I think he will be careful not to let madara be sealed and get out of the battlefield and probably find sasuke.
 
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I doubt he ever believed that Tobi was really going to hand over Sasuke to him after the war. If Tobi and Sasuke win and are alive at the end, Kabuto is useless to them and has nothing. So he was going to use Madara at some point of time in the war anyway.

Now, Kabuto lost Itachi and Nagato and not only that Itachi is coming for him and I guess he knows that as he was listining what Itachi was saying.

Onoki and Gara proved themselves too powerful to be taken down and were able to deal with his other two strongest summons (with a bit of help of Naruto). I think from Kabuto's POV it was about time to bring Madara in and try to give him some fun and a ground to play, brush his ego and try to win him over to his side and use against alliance as well as Tobi when need be.

After losing Itachi despite him being an Edo he doesn't want to take a chance with Madara who has EMS and Rinnegan both, if kept alive so he wants him to co-operate fully. This way he gets a chance and doesn't make Madara feel that he is only using him(diplomacy/manipulation was always Oro's style too).

Just my two cents..
 
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Tsuchi said:
I doubt he ever believed that Tobi was really going to hand over Sasuke to him after the war. If Tobi and Sasuke win and are alive at the end, Kabuto is useless to them and has nothing. So he was going to use Madara at some point of time in the war anyway.

Now, Kabuto lost Itachi and Nagato and not only that Itachi is coming for him and I guess he knows that as he was listining what Itachi was saying.

Onoki and Gara proved themselves too powerful to be taken down and were able to deal with his other two strongest summons (with a bit of help of Naruto). I think from Kabuto's POV it was about time to bring Madara in and try to give him some fun and a ground to play, brush his ego and try to win him over to his side and use against alliance as well as Tobi when need be.

After losing Itachi despite him being an Edo he doesn't want to take a chance with Madara who has EMS and Rinnegan both, if kept alive so he wants him to co-operate fully.

Just my two cents..
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Well Kabuto doesn't really need to win Madara over... he could gain full control of him... I can understand him wanting Madara against tobi/sasuke... but I think the summons was premature...

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I dont think he is really interested in the tailed beasts. His plan ultimately targets sasuke. He is just playing along with Tobi.
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He wanted them as leverage over Tobi which goes and in hand with the Sasuke situation. He sent 2 of the strongest characters after them afterall!

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maybe kabuto did not know that naruto was a clone? maybe he wanted to kill all of them and turn them all into edo's to add to his zombie army?
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That is very possible... The 3rd raikage went after him specifically after all!
 
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He was forced to summon Madara because he lost Nagato and Itachi. I'm sure they were has major hand and Madara was his trump card if they failed. He didn't expect them to fail though and Naruto and Bee are lucky Itachi put that crow in Naruto or else they would have loss.
 
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Kabuto wants to know the truth behind Ninjustu etc by summoning Madara it was his best chance to do so. Along with many other reasons that have been said already.
 
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im starting to feel like madara may break free from edo, think about it, madara has rinnegan now, a level passed sharingan(so to speak) . rinnegan has a jutsu that can bring one back to life, so what if madara did that? he may have the ability?
 
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We have to remember that Tobi made Kabuto show him how to use Edo. So if Itachi does kill Kabuto and end the Edo, Tobi can just re summon Madara. I'm sure Kishi put that scene in the manga for a big reason.
 
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CasualMisfit said:
Well Kabuto doesn't really need to win Madara over... he could gain full control of him... I can understand him wanting
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Kabuto's summons were facing Naruto all over the battle field. He would know that Naruto was probably a clone...

kabuto can take full control but, somehow he is still failing all over- most of the edo's are irritated and not readyo give their 100%. Nagato didn't do anything unless forced to, Hanzo committed suicide even as an edo. Mizukage etc were all helping ut the allaince if they could.

Madara on the other hand can be a true ally- can come up with original ideas/tactics/techs Kabuto do not have info about the battles and help hm out in furthering his objective.

And after seeing How uncontrolable Itachi proved Madara who has both EMS and Rinnegan the chances of his getting free or more difficult to control may get higher.

Problem with taking full control is that Madara would be limited by Kabuto's own limitations. If kabuto doesn't know what to do next- edo won't do anything next.
 
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CasualMisfit said:
It's not impossible... but I don't know if it works on oneself!
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madara was the leader of the clan, one that could par with hashirama. shisui couldnt have been stronger then madara(maybe).

shisui had a jutsu strong enough to stop edo, used through itachi, which the jutsu came from ms. if madara has ems, and then evolves it to rinnegan, imo he should be able to break edo

do you folks remember his fire technique O_O it about burnt the whole army down.
 
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Tsuchi said:
Kabuto's summons were facing Naruto all over the battle field. He would know that Naruto was probably a clone...

kabuto can take full control but, somehow he is still failing all over- most of the edo's are irritated and not readyo give their 100%. Nagato didn't do anything unless forced to, Hanzo committed suicide even as an edo. Mizukage etc were all helping ut the allaince if they could.

Madara on the other hand can be a true ally- can come up with original ideas/tactics/techs Kabuto do not have info about the battles and help hm out in furthering his objective.

And after seeing How uncontrolable Itachi proved Madara who has both EMS and Rinnegan the chances of his getting free or more difficult to control may get higher.

Problem with taking full control is that Madara would be limited by Kabuto's own limitations. If kabuto doesn't know what to do next- edo won't do anything next.
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You make a good point.. I did wonder if the Edos would be better if they were allowed more free reign over their skills... They'd know their bodies better than Kabuto!
 
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