Why did/do people think madara will be the final villain?

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obito is better than madara because obito is fighting alot than madara what i mean that madara is just sitting doing nothing and obito is the one who doing the fighting
 

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Madara's limit is his power. Obito's limit is his imagination and ambition. Obito is naturally a more dynamic and arguably more threatening villain. Overcoming Obito is more unique and difficult than overcoming a villain who must simply be overpowered.
Thats the thing Madara isnt simply overpowered he has everything planned out so many steps ahead that by the time you find a counter for madara he has found a counter for your counter twice. He is actually one of the battle smart uchihas with intelligence outside of battle as well which is why his grin in the latest chapter gets me more excited than Obito becoming the Jinchuriki cause honestly I do not see it lasting long.
 

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I dont think you get it. Its not about being the strongest and coolest those are just traits that go along with being Madara his name literally gave Obito power through the entire series. I favor Madara because we dont see Madara always looking like this when someone figures out his jutus[ ][ ][ ]Honestly Obito is just too weak to be a main villain look at any other manga you read the Main villain always seems damn near untouchable and indestructible. This brings the best out of the heros seeing as they have to use their strongest attacks and push their hardest that also makes the victory that much more satisfying though i see your point about causing the most pain.


Madara was controlling himself. And are you serious with the lee kick cutting Madara in half. He doesnt have to do anything if Madara was alive he would have killed lee right there. Lee was moving linear sharingan could read his movements or his could susanoo ribcage. Edos seem to be paper-like they all get ripped like that.
Edit: What should madara be doing right now? Since he all lazy... unmotivated yes. but lazy is something different.
Kabuto allowed Madara to act freely, if he wanted to, he could easily restrain his movements and control him like every other edos since he remains bounded by the edo jutsu. Madara never tried anything to get out of Kabutos control because he can't and only attempted to do so when Itachi made kabuto cancel out the jutsu.

I was merely pointing out the fact that you said he can't be injured, if you're using the edo's immortality as an excuse then it is not impressive since it applies to every other edo. We all know that alive Madara has suffered many defeats from Hashirama so he's vulnerable to getting injured like every other shinobi.

He didn't finish the job with the gokage since he was lazy that's why they are still alive. He could have been the juubi jin if he didn't wait for so long. He was so distracted by Hashirama that he won't do anything else until he fights him again just to get rid of his inferiority complex.
 

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I would like for obito to be the final villian, but without madara i don't think obito would be who he is today. in the end obito ows everything to madara. i think it would be a student beat master kind of situation where obito will do everything madara wanted to do but wasn't able to.
 

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Kabuto allowed Madara to act freely, if he wanted to, he could easily restrain his movements and control him like every other edos since he remains bounded by the edo jutsu. Madara never tried anything to get out of Kabutos control because he can't and only attempted to do so when Itachi made kabuto cancel out the jutsu.

I was merely pointing out the fact that you said he can't be injured, if you're using the edo's immortality as an excuse then it is not impressive since it applies to every other edo. We all know that alive Madara has suffered many defeats from Hashirama so he's vulnerable to getting injured like every other shinobi.

He didn't finish the job with the gokage since he was lazy that's why they are still alive. He could have been the juubi jin if he didn't wait for so long. He was so distracted by Hashirama that he won't do anything else until he fights him again just to get rid of his inferiority complex.
Not True Madara could have released Edo tensei from the start as long as you know the seals you can release yourself from the user control[ ]. Hashirama also showed breaking the restraint is possible[ ]. And yes the it took the God of shinobi to harm Madara; And he wasnt to lazy to kill them that truly makes little to no sense they survived do to orochimaru and karin healing tsuande whoe then completely healed the the rest. Tsuande was keeping them alive thats how they survived i mean tsuande was cut in half that doesnt seem lazy. He also decided it was time to get the kyuubi. His wanting to fight Hashirama was not the reason he didnt become the 10 tens Jinchuriki he was actually in the process of becoming it. Your twisting all the scenes in order to slander Madara's character.
 
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Thats the thing Madara isnt simply overpowered he has everything planned out so many steps ahead that by the time you find a counter for madara he has found a counter for your counter twice. He is actually one of the battle smart uchihas with intelligence outside of battle as well which is why his grin in the latest chapter gets me more excited than Obito becoming the Jinchuriki cause honestly I do not see it lasting long.
Fair enough, it can't be denied that he is intelligent as well. But it is fair to note that the one driving force of advancing the Moon's Eye Plan has been Obito this entire time. Madara wishes to dominate the world, but Obito's entire villain role since he lost his Will of Fire has been to make his dreams reality. His characterization was designed from the ground up for the bad guy achieving peace through ill means. No doubt Madara has a huge role to play in the resolution of the Senju vs Uchiha still, but as for ultimate bad guy, I don't see anyone filling but Obito.

Still, I am sure within two chapters, both of their roles as villains will be made crystal clear and we shall see who had the one up on who :cool:
 
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Fair enough, it can't be denied that he is intelligent as well. But it is fair to note that the one driving force of advancing the Moon's Eye Plan has been Obito this entire time. Madara wishes to dominate the world, but Obito's entire villain role since he lost his Will of Fire has been to make his dreams reality. His characterization was designed from the ground up for the bad guy achieving peace through ill means. No doubt Madara has a huge role to play in the resolution of the Senju vs Uchiha still, but as for ultimate bad guy, I don't see anyone filling but Obito.

Still, I am sure within two chapters, both of their roles as villains will be made crystal clear and we shall see who had the one up on who :cool:
I also have to agree that Obito has been taking the essential steps to make this dream come true but Madara's name has been aiding in this and at the same time what could madara really do? He was dead.=D
 
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I also have to agree that Obito has been taking the essential steps to make this dream come true but Madara's name has been aiding in this and at the same time what could madara really do? He was dead.=D
Haha facts can't be argued with. Nonetheless, my resolve that Obito is the rightful inheritor of the Moon's Eye Plan and the final villain remains unchanged :scorps:
 
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