why current sasuke weak and comparison with current naruto

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He didn't go blind did he? His eyes were beginning to get affected by the MS, but he WAS NOT blind.
sasuke almost was blind after kage summit
 
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kirin not stronger than rasenshuriken

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Kirin, Mountain buster.

FRS, not a Mountain Buster.
 

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Kirin, Mountain buster.

FRS, not a Mountain Buster.
ok... but naruto can kill sasuke before kirin
 

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lol? No. Danzo fight MS Sasuke is when he got the lvl 3 Susanoo, he was still capable of fighting so he can fight SM Naruto. MS backlash isn't going to be a factor in a fight that is only going to last less than 5 minutes.

-SM lasts for 5 minutes.
-SM Naruto can only use 3 FRS before running out of SM.

MS Sasuke's V3 Susanoo tanks FRS as V2 was able to protect Itachi from Kirin, a far stronger attack than FRS (As it leveled a Mountain sized building) Or he can counter with Enton, which will consume the FRS making it become pure flame.

After SM runs out an arrow take him out, or when Naruto is wide open (Before SM runs out) Amaterasu kills him.

SM Naruto is not beating MS Sasuke.

we must be talking about different susanoo versions then, didn't he only activated the armored susanoo (the 1 I was talking about) when he was talking with Kakashi and got mad!?!?

and there is a big problem with all that scenario.
so we're going to put them fighting right after Sasuke got saved from the kumit?? convenient xD
because when Sasuke fought Bee he didn't even had susanoo!! but guess they're not going to fight now!?!?
since he activated susanoo at the kumit... his good eye sight only lasted half a day or so!! that's why I said a Sasuke with mastered MS against Naruto with mastered SM.

I'm not trying to say SM > MS, it's just that Sasuke would never have the chance to face Naruto with MS at his best condition. if KM/BM and EMS never were to happen, and they were to fight after all that happened like they were supposed to, Sasuke would be with a serious disadvantage since his blindness and pain, etc from MS would be already on a advanced state. while Naruto not only would have good eye sight he would also have his sensor abilities to give him an even greater advantage.
 

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two different jutsu... naruto can kill sasuke before kirin

You are proven wrong so your automatic comeback is "Naruto can kills Sasuke before Kirin"

Real nice man.... You're a genius.

So just prove it.
 

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You are proven wrong so your automatic comeback is "Naruto can kills Sasuke before Kirin"

Real nice man.... You're a genius.

So just prove it.
sasuke need more prepare time for kirin than naruto for rasenshuriken
 

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we must be talking about different susanoo versions then, didn't he only activated the armored susanoo (the 1 I was talking about) when he was talking with Kakashi and got mad!?!?

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and there is a big problem with all that scenario.
so we're going to put them fighting right after Sasuke got saved from the kumit?? convenient xD
because when Sasuke fought Bee he didn't even had susanoo!! but guess they're not going to fight now!?!?
since he activated susanoo at the kumit... his good eye sight only lasted half a day or so!! that's why I said a Sasuke with mastered MS against Naruto with mastered SM.
Why would you take a blind Sasuke and put him up against SM Naruto? When we talk MS Sasuke, it always refers to the one vs Danzo because any MS Sasuke after that is unable to fight due to his eyesight.

I'm not trying to say SM > MS, it's just that Sasuke would never have the chance to face Naruto with MS at his best condition. if KM/BM and EMS never were to happen, and they were to fight after all that happened like they were supposed to, Sasuke would be with a serious disadvantage since his blindness and pain, etc from MS would be already on a advanced state. while Naruto not only would have good eye sight he would also have his sensor abilities to give him an even greater advantage.

Well of course if they fought after the summit Sasuke would lose, cause he could barely see. Hence why MS Sasuke should only refer to the one during the Danzo fight.
 

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sasuke need more prepare time for kirin than naruto for rasenshuriken

Sasuke is faster than Naruto, so he'll need some sort of strategy to hit him with it. How do you expect him to do that?
 

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lol. sasuke need ems to sage mode naruto

Hell no. EMS Sasuke stomps SM Naruto with practically no effort. MS Sasuke can already tank everything in his arsenal and SM Naruto can't even evade Amaterasu.
 

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I was actually referring to this one
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Why would you take a blind Sasuke and put him up against SM Naruto? When we talk MS Sasuke, it always refers to the one vs Danzo because any MS Sasuke after that is unable to fight due to his eyesight.



Well of course if they fought after the summit Sasuke would lose, cause he could barely see. Hence why MS Sasuke should only refer to the one during the Danzo fight.

yea, i was talking about the susanoo he activated after that 1, but doesn't really matter anyway. that 1 would do.

and I'm not gonna argue with that. even cause I also think that MS Sasuke with no draw backs > SM Naruto.

the problem I see with that is just... the stronger MS Sasuke we seen only lasted less than half a day. so for the most part/time is SM > MS, since MS draw backs are too nasty. they basically can't master MS without blindness, since the more they use and get better at it, the more they get fcked D:
and if they were to fight after all that happened like they really were supposed to, Sasuke would already be at the descending curve from all the MS draw backs.
 
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