I'm sorry but until i see sasuke actually beating a healthy halfway decent fighter I can't put him beating any of the kages let alone being in a top 10 list. Sorry but he actually has more lack of accomplishment than anything. Ya he shown great power but he failed to beat anybody of any worth.
Why Current Sasuke > All 5 Kages
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johnny335704
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In my opinion, Sasuke can only take down A & Tsunade but it would be very difficult again Mei, Onoki and Gara in 1v1 battle, especially Onoki & Gara.
Plus its not necessary always that sasuke's Tsukoyomi or chidori or kirin will catch any of the kages first, it might be Onoki's dust release first or Mei's acid mist or Gara's sand coffin as Gara and Onoki can fly & Mei can use 3 elements and 2 kekkei genkkeis so it would be extremely difficult for Sasuke. Also Sasuke s not known for using chakra efficiently instead he wastes chakra a lot in rage without thinking to preserve it.
So Sasuke can only take down A & Tsunade at maximum. Thats it.
Plus its not necessary always that sasuke's Tsukoyomi or chidori or kirin will catch any of the kages first, it might be Onoki's dust release first or Mei's acid mist or Gara's sand coffin as Gara and Onoki can fly & Mei can use 3 elements and 2 kekkei genkkeis so it would be extremely difficult for Sasuke. Also Sasuke s not known for using chakra efficiently instead he wastes chakra a lot in rage without thinking to preserve it.
So Sasuke can only take down A & Tsunade at maximum. Thats it.
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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I think your explanations are just to simple sorry. I understand that to explain each matchup would take a lot of time on your part, but still you can't just say that sasuke > gaara cos he has chidori. Based on that I have to say I disagree with your post. To many variable can play into these match ups, not all of which would result in Sasuke being the victor
GodaimeRaikage
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By you simplistic reasoning yes, Sasuke would win.But I tend think up battle strategies, in which he can lose to the Raikage and he would definitely lose to Onoki.
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*Sigh* so many flaws here. Converge =/= travel. Converge is exactly what you said it is the coming together of something, not traveling. As shown in the manga the flames appear pretty much instantly when used. Not saying it's instant, but that's how it appears in the manga.
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Sasuke has also used susanoo while in mid air.
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It may not prove it, but it's a lot more evidence to backup my claim than you seem to have in saying he can't.
As I said in my previous post they use clones due to lack of chakra control, not because it's so heavy.
I know that, but you seem to think Gaara is invulnerable to, which he's not.
More assumptions I see. You never seem to give any evidence to even somewhat backup your claims. I claimed it wasn't heavy due to Madara and Sasuke being shown using it fairly easily while moving. You claimed it was heavy with what evidence to back that up? Oh yea let me think you said all chakra is heavy, which is completely false.
Really? Because I'm at least using some kind of evidence to back up my claim that he can use it while on a hawk while you're using none hence the baseless assumption.
Yea because Gaara's going to be in his ball in a fight from start to finish right?
Ridiculous huh? I don't see you with any evidence to say he can't. Did I ever say I was positive he could? No, but logically since susanoo is pure chakra and has never been stated to be heavy by any susanoo user and has been used while moving it's not as ridiculous as you want to think it is.
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im sorry if i didn't make it clear i believe 1 on 1 sasuke vs gaara gaara takes this ,
also kirin i believe it doesn't count as it was only used once after a lot of preparation and it used up all of sasukes chackra if it had been used more than once id say okay but it hasn't been used more than once and it hasn't been hinted to be used it was a plot jutsu that we will never see or hear of again i believe.
hypothetically if kirin was able to be used i believe gaara can counter it useing the jutsu a shield of sand
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^ Obviously there wouldn't be a rock golem but that shield of sand will be more than enough to counter Kirin which is only a 1 shot 1 time jutsu
kakashi was to close at range to dodge , gaara being a long distance fighter by choice would have enough time to dodje or even hit the arrow on the side to put ti of course like how danzo used a tree to chuck it off course
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Rafeal brown
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I think there's a misconception here about amaterasu. You and "4th hokage of the leaf" have made clever points and i'll + rep you both later.
Firstly, lets see what wiki says about 'amaterasu'
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^^ amaterasu ignites anything the user focus on... From wiki it's safe to say Amaterasu doesn't travel but sight does travel, It's probably why it was said to be "inescapable".
And your claims about Susanoo being heavy still doesn't makes sense to me, if susanoo was heavy then the weight of susanoo would just crush the user, lol moreover madara doesn't seem to have problems with mobility why using susanoo and we also saw sasuke jumping in his susanoo against danzo. Hope i made sense ^_^
kellzfresh
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he can always blow fire techniques to the sky at any point in the battle to warm the atmosphere for kirin.... he now has amaterasu to heat the atmosphere too so it wuld be easy to form kirin in battle....xd
Even after he blows the fire tech(which he won't have the chance to do) the clouds still have to forms and be shaped into Kirin, it took quite some time if you go read the manga or watch the anime.
Kratos of cruxis
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You should look at there fight again the whole time gaara was preparing for the attack he was on defence and injured sasuke and sasuke may have gotton stronger but gaara 20x the ninja he was has gold dust and sand fast enough to stop ama and A who both are faster then sasuke is now so and might I add stop a merite which is more powerful and heavier then a arrow he would be able to stop itproof? at the finals of the chuunin exam whose ass was kicked hard bro so badly that he cant even react to sasuke movement at all?
at shippuden? wat are u thnking bro his the second leading character and someone like gaara taking him 1 on 1 that ridiculous.. his sand cannot counter the arrows from susanoo it will just blast thru his fu**** mother made of sand
and in base speed can he keep up w/ sasuke speed at the present..he will just flew away just as always to avoid frontal attacks.. that did u forgot kirin.. an luckily the settings has a bad weather condition on it..
there a whole lots of more jutsu that gaara cannot counter bro..
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He can't take Gaara like U said & As for Tysoyomi WTH where did U see that from:sy: As far as the record goes he is still using Normal Genjustu Because he uses the sharingan doesn't mean it's a tysuyomi:sy:..& U mean to tell me someone who has fought Madara before will just look into sasuke's eyes :sy:
Why not against all 5? Already the first attack would destroy 2/3 of them. If he throws 20 Amaterasushurikens with the speed of an arrow, it will be an one Hit for Oonoki, Tsunade and Mei at the same time. With all due respect, they're kages, but three of them can't even dodge Sasukes first attack.
UzumakiNaruto20
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And how does coming together not mean travel? Can you explain how flames can come together with their target without traveling? It can either be S/T as I said earlier or high speed movement.
Look at the scan of Raikage. If the flames were to instantly appear then how did he use shunshin to get out of the way? Sasuke clearly used Ameratasu before Raikage used Shunshin.
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Look at this scan. If the flames were supposed to appear on Raikages location then how did they get on this guy behind Raikage? The flames should have appeared in the spot that Raikage left out of, but, the flames kept moving after they missed Raikage and hit that Samurai.
You can also see in the scan that there was a point when the flames were right in front of the Samurai. It clearly shows to me that the flames are in fact moving.
I don't know who writes the wiki but they are clearly wrong here.
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