Why could Madara summon Kurama?

[LeSauce]

I've seen a thread made about this before, but it was never answered.

Is it simply because he controlled him once? Because Kurama can't have a contract with him, especially when Kurama hated Madara.

So what do you guys think?

 

[Angelic.]

i guess sharingan control helps. obito summoned kurama into konoha too. minato broke the sharingan contract

 

[LastGREATEST]

maybe he marked him? i think the contract is an agreement Madara never looked at him as an partner but as a weapon just like how Tenten summons tools

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

Madara controlled kurama with the sharingan, and most likely made a contract soon afterwords

 

[~Ethereal~]

Because he's Madara.

 

[LeSauce]

Kurama doesn't even have a contract though.

 

[V h o]

I don't think you need a contact with everything. The gedo mazo was also summoned without a contract I believe.

 

[LeSauce]

I don't think you need a contact with everything. The gedo mazo was also summoned without a contract I believe.

So they can summon Kurama just because they had him in genjutsu?

 

[Shanks]

I don't think you need a contact with everything. The gedo mazo was also summoned without a contract I believe.

There is a doubt in my mind why did Edo Madara try to summon Kurama ... Edo shouldn't do that isn't it ..

 

[V h o]

There is a doubt in my mind why did Edo Madara try to summon Kurama ... Edo shouldn't do that isn't it ..

His summoning is most likely different from typical contract summons that require blood to do.
Edit: although he did use blood before when summoning kurama. Zzz

So they can summon Kurama just because they had him in genjutsu?

Probably that or something that binds the summon with chakra, my point was that you may not need to make a mutual agreeing contract all the time.

 

[Kai NB]

I'm not sure either, but I think it should be cause of the Sharingan

 

[LeSauce]

His summoning is most likely different from typical contract summons that require blood to do.


Probably that or something that binds the summon with chakra, my point was that you may not need to make a mutual agreeing contract all the time.

Obito was able to do it too though, and all he did was put Kurama in genjutsu.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

I'd assume that Madara or Obito used a jutsu similar to the

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that Minato used to break Obito's contract with Kurama after using the Sharingan. This is probably similar to how Sasuke got his contract with the hawks.

 

[LeSauce]

I'd assume that Madara or Obito used a jutsu similar to the

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that Minato used to break Obito's contract with Kurama after using the Sharingan. This is probably similar to how Sasuke got his contract with the hawks.

The thinkg is that we never saw anything close to that.

 

[Demonic.]

Plot shield. Hashirama would have negged Fodara without Kurama

 

[LuckyMan]

I made a thread about this before. Its a plot hole that has never been explained and never will since its not important. We just know he can, even though it goes against all the logic of the summoning technique.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

So they can summon Kurama just because they had him in genjutsu?

Madara and Obito were Indra/Hagoromo descendants with very high levels of skill. Senju and Uzumaki can also tame bijuu. Each Hagoromo descendant has their unique way of controlling bijuus and utilizing their powers, Uchiha's way is through Genjutsu, Senju is through mokuton and Uzumaki is through chakra chains.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Ughh imma break or down into steps for these people...

1. Madara/Obito uses Sharingan to forcibly control Kurama
2. Since Kurama is under their control, with no free will, they use the control over Kurama to forcibly create a contact with him
3. They gain the ability to summon Kurama whenever as long as
a.) Kurama is under their genjutsu control
b.) They still have the contract with the beast

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Madara and Obito were Indra/Hagoromo descendants with very high levels of skill. Senju and Uzumaki can also tame bijuu. Each Hagoromo descendant has their unique way of controlling bijuus and utilizing their powers, Uchiha's way is through Genjutsu, Senju is through mokuton and Uzumaki is through chakra chains.

But Hashirama was the only Senju with Mokuton

 

[Rikodou Mode]

But Hashirama was the only Senju with Mokuton

I think the odds of Senju being able to use mokuton were low because Ashura's bloodline split in 2 unlike Indra's, so there's less of a chance of transmigrants being born :s it's just a guess. Also, Senju clan weren't great in numbers and after Hashirama, all bijuus were in jinchuuriki's and their blood could have thinned as they settled with Konoha citizens