Why can't we have peace in the real world ?

[Aim64C]

We live in a broken world.

Is it the world that is broken, or the people who have not sought to understand its perfection who have a broken life?

 

[Scooby Doo]

It's hard to live in this world.

Always been.

I wish I was born into a world of love and peace.

Then you may have never been born at all. I, personally- find my life quite peaceful, however I grew up in a love deprived family. But you can always create a family for yourself that is a shelter. For that, you shall have an inner 'sanctuary' first. Create your inner peace to which you can always recluse. Then others may join you. But. It's unrealistic to expect everyone to love everyone else (and that's why I hate the "you need Jesus love...etc" slogans), however I (would) expect a minimum respect.

People carry too many burdens

The fact that you are using the internet shows that you are still in the lucky half of the world. However, in this modern world we've created so many "needs" that it stresses us too much.

and release their anger to their love ones, the people that care.

Well, if you are close to someone and spend a lot of time with them, frictions are natural, and to vent out on those who are 'available'. Unfortunately I also have a problem with that, but I'm borderline so...yeah. It's hard. Again, the best you can do is focus on what you can do to change your micro environment for the better. I always say the greatest power would be to change others...but first you have to be an example. (Like Naruto). But be prepared for failure (because the real world is not like a manga). Then, be a true shinobi and endure u.u

Why can't we have world peace.

Coz that's how it is. People will always fight over ideologies and resources. Sometimes in the name of a greater good, sometimes simply for ruling/dominance.

 

[sandman20]

Because Humans are destructive beings. I want to live a peaceful world, but with humans on it that is never going to happen. Someones going to get too greedy and well...

 

[BlacLord™]

It can never exist because love and hate are nexuses, because there will always be individuals who seek power above all, and it is the latter who will disrupt any kind of real or imaginary balance to achieve it.

Good cannot live without evil because if there is no evil, how do we know what is good? The aforementioned are interdependent; in essence, they are guidelines for each other and for us. Take away evil and a few generations down the line, people could murder, rape and steal willy-nilly not knowing what they are doing is bad. But then of course, what would follow the latter? The rebirth of evil through anger and pain of the victims and their loved ones, who will then seek revenge.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

The only possible way for peace to exist is for everyone to not have an opinion on anything. Creating no conflicting beliefs.

So it'll never happen.

 

[Anduril]

We've lived in the most peaceful times the world has ever known. The era following the second World War was one of the most peaceful times ever known for the longest period of time in documented history.

Sure - there were minor squabbles here, there, and around the world - but nothing like the Napoleonic Wars, the Ottoman Incursions, the Spanish Conquistadors, etc. It's been fairly quiet.

Unlike the other ignoramuses on the forums - I'll give you the true reason why 'peace' is not possible.

The reason why 'peace' is not possible is because human beings are creative and resourceful creatures.

It has nothing to do with our negative traits.

Animals fight with each other over territory, resources, breeding rights, etc all of the time. The term "cuckold" comes from the Cuckoo - although, now, most avians (birds) are recognized as being very flexible in their breeding habits based on population density and environment.

Animals have long done precisely what humans seem to think, for whatever reason, is unnatural and cause for 'loss of faith.'

My cat, for example, was extremely upset when a friend of mine brought over a kitten. At one point, when I was calling for the kitten to come out from under the cabinets, my cat actually ran in front of me, hissed, and smacked me in the face.

The reason there can't be peace is because Human beings understand this type of behavior to be wrong, yet often lack the ability to control such behavior (or deny they do have the ability to, never making the attempt). Thus, humans are frequently unable to accept that the world they live in is just as it was intended to be.

We create this dysfunctional fantasy world in which no one insults another, harms another, or intimidates another... except to accomplish that would require a lack of passion. People would have to lose their desire to create - to lose their desire to survive - to lose everything that makes them more than a drone within a colony of ants.

Now - that doesn't mean that we should indulge in savagery as natural and good. But it does mean that we are in control of how we perceive the universe.

Peace is not so much what happens in the world so much as whether or not one can accept what is in the world. In order to change the world to one that is more outwardly peaceful, one must accept the world as it is in order to understand what factors create the material and events that unfold within it.

There are some things that we can change - ways to reduce the need for violent conflict.

But then there are some things that can't be changed. The hearts and minds of others cannot be changed. Some people will choose to use violence to acquire what they desire, and one must be prepared to meet their violence with sufficient force to put a stop to it.

One could argue that "more education" or "proper raising" and "mental health screening" could fix all of these things - but that is naive and ignores the arduous consequences upon innocent people. Not to mention the hubris of insisting one can force another person to make certain choices (and the inherent potential for abuse).

It is not due to 'greed,' 'corruption,' or anything else. It is the fact that we are aware these natural emotions are not ideal that causes us grief. It is our ability to conceive of a world according to our ideals that leads us to feel pain at the thought of the one we currently live in.

That is the reason why we can't have peace - that we have the ability to conceive of something other than the life we live.

This pretty much sums up what I believe. But I do not agree that its our naive ideals that make us unhappy. The whole point of religion was to make sure that these ideals are inculcated in each Human being and that he learns to control his desires. But then religion like the atomic energy was created keeping something in Mind, but in the hands of people it became something else entirely. It is but our prerogative to find the good in each religion and adopt it.

Also the world is a peaceful place but the duty for that starts with you as an individual. The more nicely you live, the more peaceful your heart gets. Leaving peacefully does not mean you should suffer injustice. It just means standing your ground without moving forward.

Basically if you don't want wars then start with individuals and the people you come in contact with. All of the modern questions have been answered very thoughtfully in most of the religious texts. But sadly everyone believes in superficial religion and not the questioned and rationalized crux of it.

 

[10th]

We have war because we're not united.

 

[Disquiet]

We've lived in the most peaceful times the world has ever known. The era following the second World War was one of the most peaceful times ever known for the longest period of time in documented history.

Sure - there were minor squabbles here, there, and around the world - but nothing like the Napoleonic Wars, the Ottoman Incursions, the Spanish Conquistadors, etc. It's been fairly quiet.

Unlike the other ignoramuses on the forums - I'll give you the true reason why 'peace' is not possible.

The reason why 'peace' is not possible is because human beings are creative and resourceful creatures.

It has nothing to do with our negative traits.

Animals fight with each other over territory, resources, breeding rights, etc all of the time. The term "cuckold" comes from the Cuckoo - although, now, most avians (birds) are recognized as being very flexible in their breeding habits based on population density and environment.

Animals have long done precisely what humans seem to think, for whatever reason, is unnatural and cause for 'loss of faith.'

My cat, for example, was extremely upset when a friend of mine brought over a kitten. At one point, when I was calling for the kitten to come out from under the cabinets, my cat actually ran in front of me, hissed, and smacked me in the face.

The reason there can't be peace is because Human beings understand this type of behavior to be wrong, yet often lack the ability to control such behavior (or deny they do have the ability to, never making the attempt). Thus, humans are frequently unable to accept that the world they live in is just as it was intended to be.

We create this dysfunctional fantasy world in which no one insults another, harms another, or intimidates another... except to accomplish that would require a lack of passion. People would have to lose their desire to create - to lose their desire to survive - to lose everything that makes them more than a drone within a colony of ants.

Now - that doesn't mean that we should indulge in savagery as natural and good. But it does mean that we are in control of how we perceive the universe.

Peace is not so much what happens in the world so much as whether or not one can accept what is in the world. In order to change the world to one that is more outwardly peaceful, one must accept the world as it is in order to understand what factors create the material and events that unfold within it.

There are some things that we can change - ways to reduce the need for violent conflict.

But then there are some things that can't be changed. The hearts and minds of others cannot be changed. Some people will choose to use violence to acquire what they desire, and one must be prepared to meet their violence with sufficient force to put a stop to it.

One could argue that "more education" or "proper raising" and "mental health screening" could fix all of these things - but that is naive and ignores the arduous consequences upon innocent people. Not to mention the hubris of insisting one can force another person to make certain choices (and the inherent potential for abuse).

It is not due to 'greed,' 'corruption,' or anything else. It is the fact that we are aware these natural emotions are not ideal that causes us grief. It is our ability to conceive of a world according to our ideals that leads us to feel pain at the thought of the one we currently live in.

That is the reason why we can't have peace - that we have the ability to conceive of something other than the life we live.

Is it the world that is broken, or the people who have not sought to understand its perfection who have a broken life?

I can agree with almost everything except for it being the reason why there can't be peace.

If one has an ideal, there might be certain realities that prevents that ideal from being realistic. These realities don't have to be "bad" either, just bad to the person since they're a blockade to a world that would allow him/her to experience less or no negative emotions. This isn't unlike what you described. But those realities, nature's small fingerprints, is the reason why such big dreams may never hold hands with reality.

It's not because of our ability to be creative per se, after all we can create scenarios and situations that is able to be realized.

>Nature

>A list of the behaviors and conditions that describes that nature


The first would be the short answer (similar to yours), and the second would be the long answer (similar to what people would usually answer).

You, me, and many other people have described why certain systems would fail based on the likely human reactions/behaviors. Just because they say those behaviors are bad doesn't mean they're not factors/reasons for why the system can't succeed.

I think a lot of what you've wrote would be better applied to the question "Does peace exist?"

 

[The Sach]

We've lived in the most peaceful times the world has ever known. The era following the second World War was one of the most peaceful times ever known for the longest period of time in documented history.

Sure - there were minor squabbles here, there, and around the world - but nothing like the Napoleonic Wars, the Ottoman Incursions, the Spanish Conquistadors, etc. It's been fairly quiet.

Unlike the other ignoramuses on the forums - I'll give you the true reason why 'peace' is not possible.

The reason why 'peace' is not possible is because human beings are creative and resourceful creatures.

It has nothing to do with our negative traits.

Animals fight with each other over territory, resources, breeding rights, etc all of the time. The term "cuckold" comes from the Cuckoo - although, now, most avians (birds) are recognized as being very flexible in their breeding habits based on population density and environment.

Animals have long done precisely what humans seem to think, for whatever reason, is unnatural and cause for 'loss of faith.'

My cat, for example, was extremely upset when a friend of mine brought over a kitten. At one point, when I was calling for the kitten to come out from under the cabinets, my cat actually ran in front of me, hissed, and smacked me in the face.

The reason there can't be peace is because Human beings understand this type of behavior to be wrong, yet often lack the ability to control such behavior (or deny they do have the ability to, never making the attempt). Thus, humans are frequently unable to accept that the world they live in is just as it was intended to be.

We create this dysfunctional fantasy world in which no one insults another, harms another, or intimidates another... except to accomplish that would require a lack of passion. People would have to lose their desire to create - to lose their desire to survive - to lose everything that makes them more than a drone within a colony of ants.

Now - that doesn't mean that we should indulge in savagery as natural and good. But it does mean that we are in control of how we perceive the universe.

Peace is not so much what happens in the world so much as whether or not one can accept what is in the world. In order to change the world to one that is more outwardly peaceful, one must accept the world as it is in order to understand what factors create the material and events that unfold within it.

There are some things that we can change - ways to reduce the need for violent conflict.

But then there are some things that can't be changed. The hearts and minds of others cannot be changed. Some people will choose to use violence to acquire what they desire, and one must be prepared to meet their violence with sufficient force to put a stop to it.

One could argue that "more education" or "proper raising" and "mental health screening" could fix all of these things - but that is naive and ignores the arduous consequences upon innocent people. Not to mention the hubris of insisting one can force another person to make certain choices (and the inherent potential for abuse).

It is not due to 'greed,' 'corruption,' or anything else. It is the fact that we are aware these natural emotions are not ideal that causes us grief. It is our ability to conceive of a world according to our ideals that leads us to feel pain at the thought of the one we currently live in.

That is the reason why we can't have peace - that we have the ability to conceive of something other than the life we live.

Brilliant, this is the only word capable of describing this post, completely.
Just like Anduril said, this perfectly sums up the what I wanted to say.