Why can't sasuke beat pain???

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

We're talking about just the 6 paths. No Nagato. Plus, Nagato hasn't demonstrated a power that can revive dead bodies if the naraka path is also dead. He can make new ones, but hasn't shown how to revive them. He could do it himself but then he has to come in contact with the bodies. Btw samsara should not work on pain since they are already dead. And if that wasn't the case then he'd have absolutely no need for naraka path

then how did he bring kakashi and every1 back to life when he wasnt by them?

 

[niknika]

then how did he bring kakashi and every1 back to life when he wasnt by them?

Did you not read my post? That was rebirth samsara. Bring people back from the death. I said naraka path revives ALREADY dead pain paths, it doesn't bring me back to life. You should kow the difference between the 2 powers.

 

[Dark Anbu]

no,just no he can't beat pein not 6 vs 1

 

[Sasuke1025]

This doesn't make much sense at all, that would mean when the Preta path absorbed Naruto's rasenshuriken it would have gone off inside that Pain thus severing the chakra circulation and link to Nagato. Sadly this never happened and it never would. Amaterasu is in fact a ninjutsu, a very powerful one, but still a chakra infused blaze release ninjutsu. It would get absorbed just as any other blaze release ninjutsu would.

The sharingan is a bit overrated IMO, people just assume because amaterasu is a technique linked with the sharingan is has ways to ignore other ninjutsu and techniques. Well this is not the case, just as people think Tsukuyomi can't be broken...again a powerful genjutsu, but not unbeatable nor unbreakable.

People need to realize that Pain is probably the strongest person in Naruto right now. I say this because while Edo Madara is hacks, he does not possess the same knowledge of the rinnegan as Nagato did...please please please I'm not turning this into a Nagato vs Edo Madara thread. I'm just saying that Pain wasn't meant to be defeated by anyone, that's why Naruto was only able to defeat him by changing him. Even Tobi knew this, and never asked how Naruto defeated him, just asked how Naruto changed his mind.

Pain was built up, hyped, and for good reason. He was the second sage of six paths, we was a God by all standards. Can Sasuke beat him, no absolutely not. It just wouldn't happen. Did Naruto beat him, no not at all, did J-man nope. The dude is a monster.

Well Naruto has to make RS explode it doesn't just explode automatically like when he trew it to pain but he dodge it it just cut the small rock behind him in half he didn't explode it cuz that's a waste of chakra but when pain absorb it he doesn't have control of it anymore cuz its inside pains body but Amaterasu doesn't need to be controlled to keep burning it just keeps burning automatically for 7 days and 7 nights and what do you mean just like any other blaze release? Sasuke is the only one who has this abillity

 

[niknika]

Well Naruto has to make RS explode it doesn't just explode automatically like when he trew it to pain but he dodge it it just cut the small rock behind him in half he didn't explode it cuz that's a waste of chakra but when pain absorb it he doesn't have control of it anymore cuz its inside pains body but Amaterasu doesn't need to be controlled to keep burning it just keeps burning automatically for 7 days and 7 nights and what do you mean just like any other blaze release? Sasuke is the only one who has this abillity

1st. We don't know itachis Amaterasu control capabilities. People who said sasukes was better, thought itachi couldn't extinguish e flames. Second just give it a rest I made a perfectly good argument that Amaterasu would do to preta path what senjutsu did to it, because they're not regular ninjutsu but they keep ignoring that part and coming up with rasen shrikes arguments. Rasen shrikes USA REGULAR ninjutsu, S class but still. Wind based jutsun

 

[Sasuke1025]

1st. We don't know itachis Amaterasu control capabilities. People who said sasukes was better, thought itachi couldn't extinguish e flames. Second just give it a rest I made a perfectly good argument that Amaterasu would do to preta path what senjutsu did to it, because they're not regular ninjutsu but they keep ignoring that part and coming up with rasen shrikes arguments. Rasen shrikes USA REGULAR ninjutsu, S class but still. Wind based jutsun

I kno itachi can extinguish Amaterasu he did it while he's fighting sasuke to make it look like he was about to take sasukes eyes and I didn't start the RS argument I was proving to that guy that Amaterasu and RS aren't the same

 

[niknika]

I kno itachi can extinguish Amaterasu he did it while he's fighting sasuke to make it look like he was about to take sasukes eyes and I didn't start the RS argument I was proving to that guy that Amaterasu and RS aren't the same

I know. That's why I said they'll never get it. You're just gonna post indefinitely they're comparing two Justus that have nothing in common while discarding the evidenced provided. They're only answer if they answer to me would be one of these: senjutsu is totally different you *******. Stop comparing. Preta path owns. Pain stomps sasuke. Or that was plot no jutsu. You got nothing on pain. Pain will shinra tensei sasuke all the way back to his moms va***a

 

[Sasuke1025]

lol xD and sorry I didn't quite understand what u said but I guess we're on the same page here

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

then how did he bring kakashi and every1 back to life when he wasnt by them?

oh i didnt qiute get what you meant thats my bad.

 

[BL00DZ]

1. "A" dodged an Amaterasu but chances are if it can absorb Rasen Shuriken then it can absorb Amaterasu.

2. What about Jiraiya's genjutsu? It should have affected all of them then.

3. "A" managed to crack the Susanno a bit with only a kick, and the Mizukage managed to melt it with her hot gas jutsu.

4. Kirin takes time and Pain can absorb any attack...

Rinnegan beats EMS

Pain beats Sasuke

 

[Sasuke1025]

1. "A" dodged an Amaterasu but chances are if it can absorb Rasen Shuriken then it can absorb Amaterasu.

2. What about Jiraiya's genjutsu? It should have affected all of them then.

3. "A" managed to crack the Susanno a bit with only a kick, and the Mizukage managed to melt it with her hot gas jutsu.

4. Kirin takes time and Pain can absorb any attack...

Rinnegan beats EMS

Pain beats Sasuke

1. Don't compare SR and AMA dude they're completely different

2. Jiraya genjutsu is sound sasuke is visual

3. R u talking when A did the liger bomb to him? Of course it crack it's A's best taijutsu move you know the guy that is known to have a chakra comparable to a bijuu ya that barely crack the tip of it and that was only his lvl one susano'O and the mizukage jutsu can melt anything and he was out of chakra

4. I know it takes time I never said it didn't but he's smart he might figure out how to do it and no pain can't absorb Kirin cuz its natural lightning

EMS is not that far away from rinegan

Sasuke has a really good chance of beating pain

 

[yeaung]

Just stop making nonsense imaginary battles!!! Only author decides who wins or loses!!

 

[Thundercles]

I mean come on I know that like 70% of Naruto fans hates sasuke because he's "gay" and "emo" -.- but still u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS I'm pretty sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

Reasons:

1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy

2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!

3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand

4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds

So I think if after this you still think sasuke would not have a chance against the 6 path of pain then your just a hater and I'm not saying he can beat nagato just the 6 path and some ppl always says rinegan is stronger than the sharingan so sasuke would always lose I agree that the rinegan is stronger than the sharingan but if that's ur argument is about eyes then sasuke would have a better chance of beating Pain than naruto cuz last time I check the rinegan is way stronger than regular eyes -.- so ya I'm sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

1. Amaterasu is a short ranged attack. Also, it burns slowly. So if was able to get one, the flame would burn slow enough for Nagato to expel it off the bodies. Not to mention it is pretty obvious when it will come out (ie bleeding eye). As soon as Pain saw that, he'd know it would be coming. He could use ST and push it back to Sasuke.
2. Again, there is no proof that ocular genjutsu works on all six. Plus if they keep a good distance no prob. Also, they can fight him w/o looking at his eyes, as proven in the fight against Naruto and J-man. Shared vision does have its advantages.
3. Chibaku tensei and that is done. Hell, a strong ST and it is done. It isnt invincible. Plus it is chakra, Preta path can absorb it.
4. Nagato can control the weather. He could completely dispel that trick before it even had a chance to form.
All-in-all, Sasuke would get overwhelmed. Sure, he would get 1 or too, but its simply too much. Animal path - Summoning multiple animals, esp that dog. Human Path - 1 shot kill (ripping out souls) Preta - cancels all ninjutsu. The Asura Path - unlimited arsenal of missiles. The Nakara path that can revive all downed paths. Deva - the most destructive of all. He would be overwhelmed solo'ing Pain.

 

[ninjamos]

Ok. I hate this. Unless, he shows he can do it in the manga, please stop giving him imaginary powers he has yet to demonstrate he possesses. Oh btw, sasuke already awakened rinnegan, he just hasn't shown it cAuse there has been no need. BS right? Stop assuming.
I'm neither a sasuke fan/hater nor pain fan/hater. Neither make my fav characters list but stop imagining powers.

I didnt imagion anything, what was so rediculous bout what I said? Its a fact that pain could make a bigger one and its a fact that they dont feel pain. Its also a fact tha AMA desnt burn fast enough to prevent pain from giving Sasuke a least

Ok. I hate this. Unless, he shows he can do it in the manga, please stop giving him imaginary powers he has yet to demonstrate he possesses. Oh btw, sasuke already awakened rinnegan, he just hasn't shown it cAuse there has been no need. BS right? Stop assuming.
I'm neither a sasuke fan/hater nor pain fan/hater. Neither make my fav characters list but stop imagining powers.

I didnt imagion anything, what was so rediculous bout what I said? Its a fact that pain could make a bigger one and its a fact that they dont feel pain. Its also a fact tha AMA desnt burn fast enough to prevent pain from giving Sasuke at least 1 atack. Its also a fact that one pain can revive the others... How ever, maybe taking there jaket off is alil unorthodox...

We're talking about just the 6 paths. No Nagato. Plus, Nagato hasn't demonstrated a power that can revive dead bodies if the naraka path is also dead. He can make new ones, but hasn't shown how to revive them. He could do it himself but then he has to come in contact with the bodies. Btw samsara should not work on pain since they are already dead. And if that wasn't the case then he'd have absolutely no need for naraka path

Nagato can revive the dead. He did so after Naruto talked to him. Btw I wonder... If pain /nagato revived everyone he killed. And he killed jboy... Didnt he jus make jboy expirience a extra death? (drowning painfully at the bottom of the sea)

Did you not read my post? That was rebirth samsara. Bring people back from the death. I said naraka path revives ALREADY dead pain paths, it doesn't bring me back to life. You should kow the difference between the 2 powers.

took me a wile to realize what u were saying... Ur post was confusing

Well Naruto has to make RS explode it doesn't just explode automatically like when he trew it to pain but he dodge it it just cut the small rock behind him in half he didn't explode it cuz that's a waste of chakra but when pain absorb it he doesn't have control of it anymore cuz its inside pains body but Amaterasu doesn't need to be controlled to keep burning it just keeps burning automatically for 7 days and 7 nights and what do you mean just like any other blaze release? Sasuke is the only one who has this abillity

No. Sasuke isnt the only one. And then by that explination, other fire would burn the absorbing path, or he'd take regular rasingan into his body.

 

[Sasuke1025]

1. "A" dodged an Amaterasu but chances are if it can absorb Rasen Shuriken then it can absorb Amaterasu.

2. What about Jiraiya's genjutsu? It should have affected all of them then.

3. "A" managed to crack the Susanno a bit with only a kick, and the Mizukage managed to melt it with her hot gas jutsu.

4. Kirin takes time and Pain can absorb any attack...

Rinnegan beats EMS

Pain beats Sasuke

Nagato can revive the dead. He did so after Naruto talked to him. Btw I wonder... If pain /nagato revived everyone he killed. And he killed jboy... Didnt he jus make jboy expirience a extra death? (drowning painfully at the bottom of the sea)

No pain only had enough chakra to revive the ppl he just recently killed

 

[BL00DZ]

1. They're not completely different. They are both Ninjutsu. The Preta Path of Pain is able to absorb any ninjutsu-based technique. The only difference is that Amaterasu is Fire and the Rasenshuriken is Wind .

2. The pains are linked to Nagato, that's what he meant. When the Paths were active together in battle, Nagato was able to see through their eyes, thus registering six separate fields of vision at the same time. Essentially working as shared vision for the Paths, this allowed Nagato to coordinate their attacks and to provide defence for them without a blind spot. Which is why Pain didn't know what happened when one of the Pains was in Chief Toad's Mouth. Also Jiraiya's genjutsu was visual...the pain saw what was happening to him so that means they would all be seeing the same thing? Am I right?

3. Pain's Chibaku Tensei and gravitational powers would destroy Susanoo. The dude can summon a meteor. Way stronger then a kick.

4. Again, Kirin is still a ninjutsu but just lightning style.

Pain > Sasuke

Rinnegan > EMS

 

[ninjamos]

1st. We don't know itachis Amaterasu control capabilities. People who said sasukes was better, thought itachi couldn't extinguish e flames. Second just give it a rest I made a perfectly good argument that Amaterasu would do to preta path what senjutsu did to him because they're not regular ninjutsu but they keep ignoring that part and coming up with rasen shrikes arguments. Rasen shrikes USA REGULAR ninjutsu, S class but still. Wind based jutsun

preta path, didnt absorb a senjutsu. It wasnt a technech that effected him, it was the chakra. AMA doesnt use a new unpredictable or uncontrolable chakra, so unless preta cant handle blaze release or just absorbs actual ninjutsu, AMA wont still be in the same form it was when it hit pain. It wont dissapear, just change like all the other ninjutsu does.

No pain only had enough chakra to revive the ppl he just recently killed

Thank god. J-boy got lucky. Thanks

Just stop making nonsense imaginary battles!!! Only author decides who wins or loses!!

I agree 100% but we all sadly cant just ask the creator

 

[nika1994]

lol xD and sorry I didn't quite understand what u said but I guess we're on the same page here

it's cool man . i got that you didn't get it xd

oh i didnt qiute get what you meant thats my bad.

NP. srry if i seemed a little pushy. i reread my comment and it sure would use a smiley face cause it seemed that i was angry or something. nor was i trying to insult you in any way just so you know

 

[ninjamos]

1. Don't compare SR and AMA dude they're completely different

2. Jiraya genjutsu is sound sasuke is visual

3. R u talking when A did the liger bomb to him? Of course it crack it's A's best taijutsu move you know the guy that is known to have a chakra comparable to a bijuu ya that barely crack the tip of it and that was only his lvl one susano'O and the mizukage jutsu can melt anything and he was out of chakra

4. I know it takes time I never said it didn't but he's smart he might figure out how to do it and no pain can't absorb Kirin cuz its natural lightning

EMS is not that far away from rinegan

Sasuke has a really good chance of beating pain

I agree with most, but 1 breaking sus isnt the only way to defeat it. 2 ive already stated how far kirin is gonna go (at beast he kills healer). 3 how in the world is EMS close to rinnagon? Not dissing the idea, just wondering. Also again, we haven started talking about how Sasuke will defend himself... He has ways dont he?

NP. srry if i seemed a little pushy. i reread my comment and it sure would use a smiley face cause it seemed that i was angry or something. nor was i trying to insult you in any way just so you know

You deserve a hug! (not trolling, im serious) ~hug~

 

[nika1994]

I didnt imagion anything, what was so rediculous bout what I said? Its a fact that pain could make a bigger one and its a fact that they dont feel pain. Its also a fact tha AMA desnt burn fast enough to prevent pain from giving Sasuke at least 1 atack. Its also a fact that one pain can revive the others... How ever, maybe taking there jaket off is alil unorthodox...

I didn't disagree about CHibaku Tensei cause he said he'd make a bigger one and i agreed i think i was the first one on this thread to point out that Pain ironically doesn't feel pain once again, SASUKE'S AMA burns slow, please specify. didn't get the last part. I said he hasn't demonstrated a power to summon meteorites not Chibaku Tensei, and those two powers are different. That's making up powers. Just because another rinnegan user does it, doesn't mean the prime one willl too. it's like if you had assumed that MS users can do Kamui cause Kakashi has done it. Some might, but it's not a fact.

took me a wile to realize what u were saying... Ur post was confusing

yeah. I was writing on my ipad. was trying to make posts short and to the point. Plus Autocorrect glad you understand what i meant though