Why can't sasuke beat pain???

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I don't think you quite get the concept of SEALING vs absorption. Second pont is baseless. Tird, they didn't really focus on the Forrest now did they.
I dont think you understand your own concept of still burning. And you have no base to say Itachis amaterasu was any faster than Sasukes thats your own assumption. And Exactly because the flames were extinguished by shinra tensei. And again its reverted back to its normal chakara the actual flame is not absorbed.
 

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I dont think you understand your own concept of still burning. And you have no base to say Itachis amaterasu was any faster than Sasukes thats your own assumption. And Exactly because the flames were extinguished by shinra tensei. And again its reverted back to its normal chakara the actual flame is not absorbed.
:D ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy ^_^
 

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Yo, first post here ^^ so... HEY EVERYBODY!? LIFE TREATING YA GOOD? Now, ill admit, im baiased cause I hate Sasuke completely, but the only good point ive seen made for Sasuke was AMA. But even then the only good point there is that it can slowly disintegrate them... but its not like they'll likely pay it any attention... They cant feel it. Nagato was only vonerable to it cause he wasnt using a pupit to attack and could. plus it would make sence the the flames would turn into chakra if absorbed. It wouldnt dissapear or dissapate (cause it cant) but it would probably more likely just change form. To help out with peoples jiraya's fire arguments, I think some people confuse put out with absorb. just cause j'boys flames can be put out, doesnt mean they were. As for genjutsu and ninjutsu, well look at the thread. Kirin isnt a ”use to kill @ll my enemys” fail safe guys. Ever hear of taking a hit? wounds cant stop you if you dont feel them... Pain doesnt. Plus kirin isnt the easiest thing to pull off. How ever, he maybe good with 1 on 1 taijutsu... But then again, this fight isnt 1on1 is it..Anyway, not saying its a blow out, but Sasuke doesnt really have anything ATM that would make him win this... Also im surprised no one desided to look up the stat charts. But just cause this has a Sasuke bio, ima give a pain bio
 

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youre a jackass im sorry to say. preta path absorbs ALL chakra.. you sayin black heat seaking flame has no chakra in it?! and genjutsu wouldnt work because THERES SIX OF THEM ASSH*LE!!! you think five ninja are gonna stand around with their thumbs up their asses and let one of the paths suffer through a genjustu?! really?!
ROFL THAT KID IS MAD CUZ HE GOT b*tch :flaw:
 

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what the..I stopped reading where you said sasuke could use tsukoyomi!
WHAT THE FUQ?! Link to where he used tsukoyomi and against WHO. smh. Only Itachi has ever been confirmed of using it.
--> go here and when they list you the jutsu the last one will be tsukoyomi

--> go here and b4 the first paragraph it'll tell you which character can use it which is Itachi sasuke and madara

He used it on bee but he was able to break it right away becuz he can control the 8 tails. I keep saying that it is IMPISSIBLE to awake susano'O without tsukoyomi
 

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Yo, first post here ^^ so... HEY EVERYBODY!? LIFE TREATING YA GOOD? Now, ill admit, im baiased cause I hate Sasuke completely, but the only good point ive seen made for Sasuke was AMA. But even then the only good point there is that it can slowly disintegrate them... but its not like they'll likely pay it any attention... They cant feel it. Nagato was only vonerable to it cause he wasnt using a pupit to attack and could. plus it would make sence the the flames would turn into chakra if absorbed. It wouldnt dissapear or dissapate (cause it cant) but it would probably more likely just change form. To help out with peoples jiraya's fire arguments, I think some people confuse put out with absorb. just cause j'boys flames can be put out, doesnt mean they were. As for genjutsu and ninjutsu, well look at the thread. Kirin isnt a ”use to kill @ll my enemys” fail safe guys. Ever hear of taking a hit? wounds cant stop you if you dont feel them... Pain doesnt. Plus kirin isnt the easiest thing to pull off. How ever, he maybe good with 1 on 1 taijutsu... But then again, this fight isnt 1on1 is it..Anyway, not saying its a blow out, but Sasuke doesnt really have anything ATM that would make him win this... Also im surprised no one desided to look up the stat charts. But just cause this has a Sasuke bio, ima give a pain bio
Welcome to the base ^_^ well even tho pain doesn't feel pain Amaterasu will slowly turn them to ashes
 

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First lets lay the facts. Jiraiya was among the top ninja of the Naruto world and overall on par with such a complete ninja of the level of Itachi who is a genius Uchiha and owner of a Mangekyou Sharingan. (Remember that Jiraiya was one of the few that Itachi showed concern to fight against)

Now with those facts in mind let us note the following main points:

1. Pain man- handled Jiraiya even before revealing his “Six Paths of Pain” (Jiraiya was able to sustain himself without being completely dominated only for a while) and then smacked him around with summonings, taijutsu, ninjutsu and some weird genjutsu towards the end.

1. Then there was the part that was not shown in between, where the 6 avatars of Pain attacked Jiraiya.It ended with Jiraiya only being able to trap one of them and loosing the ability to sustain Sage Mode anymore.

Even after knowing all this…

PAIN’S STATS ARE STILL UNKNOWN!!

Given that Jiraiya pushed him so hard so as to make Pain reveal his secret… Pain’s abilities are far beyond an S-class ninja. This just means that Pain must be on some level comparable to that of Rikkudou Sennin (the sage who created ninjutsu) or even superior. I mean we know that Nagato (Pain’s “real name”) was able to control and use all of the 5 elemental chakras by the age of 7, yet we did not see him even use one of them during his fight with Jiraiya… nor do we know if he has the capacity of fusing them to make Mokuton and/or Hyouton like elemental techniques, given he has the eyes of the person who helped the first ninjas understand how to use them.

Then there’s facts like him finishing a whole civil war, by himself! Murdering the leader of the Hidden Rain Village (who even the Legendary Sannin had in upmost regards as a very powerful opponent) and all his allies and family, and has a technique in which he has complete awareness of all that happens in the radius of the whole village and to an unknown limit, it’s surroundings.

Pain’s techniques, experience and personal resume are probably as or even far greater then those of Madara. Pain may not have controlled the Kyuubi nor have a Mangekyo Sharingan, but he has the eyes and intelligence of the man who created the ninja world and all in it! He can control all the natural elements, can use all type of techniques and even separate into different bodies. He has an omniscient ability that far exceeds the Byakugan and is more penetrative and incisive than the Sharingan

* Note: The Sharingan and Byakugan are a derivation of the the Rinnegan. *

No doubt that by the present chapter (424), 6 Pain’s are very troublesome to handle even for an elite ninja as Kakashi and other Jonin and Chunin of Konoha… I can only wonder what the original body is capable of, I’m guessing it’s not friendly.

A true feeling of fear and desperation will come, to any mortal who dares challenge a god. (note, these are NOT MY WORDS, got them from looking up ”Naruto pain's stats” in google. U have any complaints, look on google and find the origional posting. Theres a pain skill chart there as well.)
 

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No non jink in the naruto world can beat Nagato apart from bijuu... exception edo and madara. If EMS was superior to Rinnegan why does only 1 person have it in the whole world and why are they called the final transformation in doujutsu. Wielders of rinnegan can only be beaten by bijuu or god level ninja.:sy:
 

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First lets lay the facts. Jiraiya was among the top ninja of the Naruto world and overall on par with such a complete ninja of the level of Itachi who is a genius Uchiha and owner of a Mangekyou Sharingan. (Remember that Jiraiya was one of the few that Itachi showed concern to fight against)

Now with those facts in mind let us note the following main points:

1. Pain man- handled Jiraiya even before revealing his “Six Paths of Pain” (Jiraiya was able to sustain himself without being completely dominated only for a while) and then smacked him around with summonings, taijutsu, ninjutsu and some weird genjutsu towards the end.

1. Then there was the part that was not shown in between, where the 6 avatars of Pain attacked Jiraiya.It ended with Jiraiya only being able to trap one of them and loosing the ability to sustain Sage Mode anymore.

Even after knowing all this…

PAIN’S STATS ARE STILL UNKNOWN!!

Given that Jiraiya pushed him so hard so as to make Pain reveal his secret… Pain’s abilities are far beyond an S-class ninja. This just means that Pain must be on some level comparable to that of Rikkudou Sennin (the sage who created ninjutsu) or even superior. I mean we know that Nagato (Pain’s “real name”) was able to control and use all of the 5 elemental chakras by the age of 7, yet we did not see him even use one of them during his fight with Jiraiya… nor do we know if he has the capacity of fusing them to make Mokuton and/or Hyouton like elemental techniques, given he has the eyes of the person who helped the first ninjas understand how to use them.

Then there’s facts like him finishing a whole civil war, by himself! Murdering the leader of the Hidden Rain Village (who even the Legendary Sannin had in upmost regards as a very powerful opponent) and all his allies and family, and has a technique in which he has complete awareness of all that happens in the radius of the whole village and to an unknown limit, it’s surroundings.

Pain’s techniques, experience and personal resume are probably as or even far greater then those of Madara. Pain may not have controlled the Kyuubi nor have a Mangekyo Sharingan, but he has the eyes and intelligence of the man who created the ninja world and all in it! He can control all the natural elements, can use all type of techniques and even separate into different bodies. He has an omniscient ability that far exceeds the Byakugan and is more penetrative and incisive than the Sharingan

* Note: The Sharingan and Byakugan are a derivation of the the Rinnegan. *

No doubt that by the present chapter (424), 6 Pain’s are very troublesome to handle even for an elite ninja as Kakashi and other Jonin and Chunin of Konoha… I can only wonder what the original body is capable of, I’m guessing it’s not friendly.

A true feeling of fear and desperation will come, to any mortal who dares challenge a god. (note, these are NOT MY WORDS, got them from looking up ”Naruto pain's stats” in google. U have any complaints, look on google and find the origional posting. Theres a pain skill chart there as well.)
Uhm. I think you're a wee bit behind on manga. Present chapter is almost 600 now, we have seen what the original body is capable of. SO6P part is BS, you better remove it, and Madara has those same eyes that you seem to adore.:shrug: I feel this was written Ike 4 years ago:shrug:
 

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No non jink in the naruto world can beat Nagato apart from bijuu... exception edo and madara. If EMS was superior to Rinnegan why does only 1 person have it in the whole world and why are they called the final transformation in doujutsu. Wielders of rinnegan can only be beaten by bijuu or god level ninja.:sy:
It's funny how 2 jinchurikis asses were handed to them at the same time by a wielded of a rinnegan, yet an MS user defeated him. Itachi must be a god level ninja. xd
 
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My favorite characters are all the Uchiha, but Sasuke would lose because of the (sorry i can't think of these off the top of my head) Gravity Pain's Meteor jutsu. The only reason Naruto survived was because of the Nine-Tails.
 

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No non jink in the naruto world can beat Nagato apart from bijuu... exception edo and madara. If EMS was superior to Rinnegan why does only 1 person have it in the whole world and why are they called the final transformation in doujutsu. Wielders of rinnegan can only be beaten by bijuu or god level ninja.:sy:
Actually 2. Nagato and Madara. 3 if you count tobi but that wouldn't be fair. Same number as EMS wielders actually. Madara, and sasuke. Still funny, madaras strongest attack does not derive from the rinnegan but from ms :D
 
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