Why can't sasuke beat pain???

[DeViliShChild]

I mean come on I know that like 70% of Naruto fans hates sasuke because he's "gay" and "emo" -.- but still u gotta give the guy some credit now that he awaken the EMS I'm pretty sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

Reasons:

1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy

2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!

3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand

4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds

So I think if after this you still think sasuke would not have a chance against the 6 path of pain then your just a hater and I'm not saying he can beat nagato just the 6 path and some ppl always says rinegan is stronger than the sharingan so sasuke would always lose I agree that the rinegan is stronger than the sharingan but if that's ur argument is about eyes then sasuke would have a better chance of beating Pain than naruto cuz last time I check the rinegan is way stronger than regular eyes -.- so ya I'm sure he can beat the 6 path of pain

1. absorb / cant kill animal / shirina tensai

2.genjutsu doesn't matter when you have 5 other bodies.

3.CT and susano breaks.

4. Pain cannot block Karin , but he certinaly can kill him while he sets up


sorry you lose

 

[Rafeal brown]

lolz, credit for awakening EMS :sy:, all he did was ask Tobi to implant itachi's eyes....and there you go EMS Sasuke :shrug:
easiest upgrade that he could ever had xd

but the funny thing is EMS doesn't have extra techs only that you won't lose sight....but still chakra drain is there. while rinnegan techs are much more powerful and versatile.

Susuke might be able to prolong the fight but end result will be the same.
Pain standing over sasuke's dead body....(then orochimaru can do so many evil things with that young body)

i don't think it's that easy to get an Ems else the uchiha clan will be a clan of Ems users...
According to itachi, the uchiha killed off family and friends just obtain that power and the fact that sasuke was the first person to achieve that power after the success of the greatest uchiha in history(madara) speaks about his talent mate.

 

[niknika]

I think its 253

Episode? But Madara was just. Concept. Still is in anime. Did you mean 553?
Oh and, I think I know what confused you from wiki. I think you got one sentence wrong. During the battle, his ems TRANSFORMED into rinnegan. I think you got this as it evolved into rinnegan, since sentence stating that through unknown means he acquired it was right before that. Way it's stated it means that he was using ems, but then used rinnegan, thus transformation took place. E.g during his fight with naruto, sasukes 2 tome sharingan evolved into a 3 tomoe one. See how this is different from, during his fight with sasuke, itachis sharingan transformed into mangekyou. It didn't evolve there and then. (bad example since ms does involve from S ). Anyway, since Madara was using ems at that time, and he does have only 2 eyes, his ems eyes transformed into rinnegan.

 

[6pathofpain]

Btw s , wht they said was wrong. Kabuto said that he gave Madara the rinnegan, but Madara corrected him a nd told him not to flatter himself, because he awakened it himself, shortly before his death. Even if that sentence in the wiki was true (it's not) notice "theorized", meaning,it would still be a speculation

hmm indeed

But i change my mind, pain wins this.

Deva path could most likely pull him out of suasnoo and block himself from amaterasu with the mec path(gaara did i t with lightened sand, pain doin it with gravity makes more since honestly). With a birds eye view(bird summon) and a dog that multiples with every attack he'll have to many feilds of vision and a surprise or counter attack would be useless. And eye genjutsu is useless with 5 bodies there cause the others there because theyll still be active and can get there to help. Metors raining down on suasnoo would probably eventually break it, and sasuke mostly wouldnt figure out how to stop Planetary devastation. And since we've already seen that nagato can since a change in air pressure before amaterasu he probably wont get hit by it. and deva path and preta path easily counter suasnoo arrows.

 

[ajbum88]

Dude remeber akatsuki heirarchy. Everyone sort of believes that pain is stronger than itachi. So unless you believe that sasuke is stronger than his brother, there's no way sasuke's gonna defeat pain.

 

[Sasuke1025]

hmm indeed

But i change my mind, pain wins this.

Deva path could most likely pull him out of suasnoo and block himself from amaterasu with the mec path(gaara did i t with lightened sand, pain doin it with gravity makes more since honestly). With a birds eye view(bird summon) and a dog that multiples with every attack he'll have to many feilds of vision and a surprise or counter attack would be useless. And eye genjutsu is useless with 5 bodies there cause the others there because theyll still be active and can get there to help. Metors raining down on suasnoo would probably eventually break it, and sasuke mostly wouldnt figure out how to stop Planetary devastation. And since we've already seen that nagato can since a change in air pressure before amaterasu he probably wont get hit by it. and deva path and preta path easily counter suasnoo arrows.

Well it's just an idea but I think sasuke can counter attack planetary devastation while pain is using this jutsu he has to keep both of his hands together so sasuke can cast Amaterasu on him so pain will b force to release the jutsu so he can repel the Amaterasu with shinra tensei

 

[Sasuke1025]

Dude remeber akatsuki heirarchy. Everyone sort of believes that pain is stronger than itachi. So unless you believe that sasuke is stronger than his brother, there's no way sasuke's gonna defeat pain.

How Itachi was able to beat nagato im pretty sure tht Itachi is stronger than the 6pop

 

[niknika]

hmm indeed

But i change my mind, pain wins this.

Deva path could most likely pull him out of suasnoo and block himself from amaterasu with the mec path(gaara did i t with lightened sand, pain doin it with gravity makes more since honestly). With a birds eye view(bird summon) and a dog that multiples with every attack he'll have to many feilds of vision and a surprise or counter attack would be useless. And eye genjutsu is useless with 5 bodies there cause the others there because theyll still be active and can get there to help. Metors raining down on suasnoo would probably eventually break it, and sasuke mostly wouldnt figure out how to stop Planetary devastation. And since we've already seen that nagato can since a change in air pressure before amaterasu he probably wont get hit by it. and deva path and preta path easily counter suasnoo arrows.

I never said sasuke would. I'm saying it could go either way caus ethereal are things we don't know. You can't say for sure eye genjutsu won't work. We don't know.ot might affect all 6 for all we kow because of shared visionsasukes Amaterasu is weaker and slower so there's a good chance of pain avoiding it. But he controls it plus with the new spam able amaterasu idk. Could seriously go either way. I seriously don't recall, when did pain use meteorites? I thought that was Madara only thing. If he did, I stand corrected, if he didn't then it remains an assumption if he can use it or not. Only real threat for sasuke I would presume (battle ending threat) would be chibaku tensei. Even if he was smart enough (he isn't) to figure out a weakness in that short time, for all we know he doesn't have yasaka magatama, and his strongest projectile, would be arrows, which aren't that strong so I don't see him breaking it. Idk. I say it can go either way

 

[KillerBeeFan]

1. Amaterasu- ppl keep saying that the fat pain who can absorb ninjutsu can just absorb it now tell me how he can absorb something that can ignite what ever sasuke is focused on. He can kill five of the pain this way but not the shinra tensei guy

2.genjutsu- sasuke can perform 3 types of genjutsu: sharingan genjutsu, susano'O genjutsu, and tsukoyomi which is one of the most powerful genjutsu there is. I read a tread about this a while ago and so guy said "well if one is under a genjutsu how's sasuke gonna deal with the other 5" and I'm like wtf sasuke cast genjutsu from his eyes and did you forget that all 6 pain vision are linked! So if one falls under his genjutsu all of them is DEAD!

3.susano'O- it is the best defense in Naruto right now! The susano'O has a really fast arrow that is really hard to dodge and he can put Amaterasu on the arrow, he has a sword made out of ameterasu and that big ball of Amaterasu in his third hand

4. Kirin- I know it takes a while to prepare but if he can make it and take preta path out Kirin would take out the rest. On the other tread I read about this shinra tensei can counter attack Kirin I personally don't think so. Naruto withstand shinra tensei with like 30 clones behind him so I'm pretty sure Kirin has the power 2 withstand it but IF shinra tensei can deflect it well sasuke can just wait until he uses it then use Kirin in that 5 seconds

1: Amaterasu is enternal until deactivated by the Uchiha or User. The 'Fat' Pain could NEVER abosrb it, it would just catch fire on him. :flaw:

2: Rennigan Blocks Genjutsu, and reflects it :sy:

3: Nothing needs arranging here. Good job have some ice cream. :ice:

4: Kirin doesn't go off in '5' seconds. It goes off less then a second and in a flash. There fore not even pain could deflect kirin at ALL. I am done here.

 

[niknika]

Well it's just an idea but I think sasuke can counter attack planetary devastation while pain is using this jutsu he has to keep both of his hands together so sasuke can cast Amaterasu on him so pain will b force to release the jutsu so he can repel the Amaterasu with shinra tensei

Btw, as I said. Sasukes Amaterasu, far cry in strength compared to itachis. Since pain doesn't feel pain at all, he might be able to suck in sasuke without flinching. If this happens though, then the battle will be a draw, because surely after the suck age is complete, pain will collapse because his head will have been burned off

 

[Cringe]

Let me do this thoroughly and take you down a notch.

1. Amaterasu - One of the bodies gets hit? No problem, TAKE THE ROBE OFF AND BAM. If he doesn't wanna do that, you gotta keep in mind. Those bodies are dead and don't feel a thing. So, they can keep on fighting while Amaterasu slowly burns through them. Also, if any body dies, Naraka path can just bring it back easily.
Point to note: When has Amaterasu ever killed anyone?

2. Genjutsu doesn't work on all six paths. It interrupts the chakra network through vision. Now, yes, all six paths share vision. But genjutsu only affects the body it directly interacts with, because it involves eye to eye contact. For example, you won't hit Neji with genjutsu if you use it on the back of his head just cause he has 360 vision. So, flawed logic there. Misinterpretation of the manga.

3. Susano'o.. Every Sasuke fanboi's dream come true. I mean, yes, Susano'o is awesome and all. But how many times have we seen it torn down, over and over again? I'll give you a couple of things Pein can do. 1. Asura path's missiles. 2. A well placed, well timed Shinra Tensei can shatter right through Susano'o.

4. Kirin is bullshit. Just, please don't start that crap on any thread. It's been seen once, once in the entire Anime. Even that once, it din't even scratch Susano'o.

Overall, stfu.

 

[niknika]

How Itachi was able to beat nagato im pretty sure tht Itachi is stronger than the 6pop

And please don't bring itachi in this. Anyone. Itachi and Nagato are roughly on the same level as each other. Their match ups could go either way. I give them 5/10 each, but don't let Nagato fan boys hear that xd

 

[Sasuke1025]

Btw, as I said. Sasukes Amaterasu, far cry in strength compared to itachis. Since pain doesn't feel pain at all, he might be able to suck in sasuke without flinching. If this happens though, then the battle will be a draw, because surely after the suck age is complete, pain will collapse because his head will have been burned off

Or maybe he can use the arrow since if it hits him it'll kill him and he can't dodge it so he's gonna be forced to release the jutsu

 

[6pathofpain]

Well it's just an idea but I think sasuke can counter attack planetary devastation while pain is using this jutsu he has to keep both of his hands together so sasuke can cast Amaterasu on him so pain will b force to release the jutsu so he can repel the Amaterasu with shinra tensei

makes sense, i can agree with that. but hopefully 8+ summons and 5 bodies(if their still alive) can stop him.

 

[niknika]

Or maybe he can use the arrow since if it hits him it'll kill him and he can't dodge it so he's gonna be forced to release the jutsu

Nah.i don't think so. Nike Amaterasu, arrow is a projectile. It doesn't start off somewhere else. It has to cover a distance from him to pain. I believe suction is too great for that to hit yahiko. Remember what itachi said? Just throw it and itll suck out attacks in. So idk. That's another maybe, just because arrows are supposed to be really fast.

 

[6pathofpain]

I never said sasuke would. I'm saying it could go either way caus ethereal are things we don't know. You can't say for sure eye genjutsu won't work. We don't know.ot might affect all 6 for all we kow because of shared visionsasukes Amaterasu is weaker and slower so there's a good chance of pain avoiding it. But he controls it plus with the new spam able amaterasu idk. Could seriously go either way. I seriously don't recall, when did pain use meteorites? I thought that was Madara only thing. If he did, I stand corrected, if he didn't then it remains an assumption if he can use it or not. Only real threat for sasuke I would presume (battle ending threat) would be chibaku tensei. Even if he was smart enough (he isn't) to figure out a weakness in that short time, for all we know he doesn't have yasaka magatama, and his strongest projectile, would be arrows, which aren't that strong so I don't see him breaking it. Idk. I say it can go either way

O im not saying you did but at first i thought sasuke could win but now i change my mind lol. i guess that last comment wasnt completely directed at you lol

 

[~MC117~]

I love to come to sasuke threads just because its funny how the sasuke fanboys can never give a good argument. They suck at giving a good argument and when try, they fail hard :rofl:

 

[niknika]

O im not saying you did but at first i thought sasuke could win but now i change my mind lol. i guess that last comment wasnt completely directed at you lol

^_^

 

[karay]

sasuke can't beat pain because....kishi won't allow him to.

there you go.

but seriously, naruto had his clones who helped him bring down 2 bodies of pain at the same time. what does sasuke have so he could fight 2 or 3 bodies of pain at the same time. i think naruto's kagebunshin, overused they might be, was essential to his fight with pain. and although jiraiya thought he, with old frog pa and ma's help, could bring down pain, i didn't think so. if he were to live and not die when he did, it would still be a long shot for him to conquer pain.

sasuke is cool and handsome and has a nice hairstyle but he can't defeat pain.

 

[Sasuke1025]

makes sense, i can agree with that. but hopefully 8+ summons and 5 bodies(if their still alive) can stop him.

Well it's gonna b hard if no one notice sasuke is gonna do they can't stop it the only way they can stop it is if they notice and stands in front of him