Why are you atheists/agnostic?

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all churches--at some point--get corrupted. however, it doesn't matter in what you choose to believe... it's belief itself that keeps "religion" going. the Egyptian religion/mythology lasted over 4000 years, while Christianity is barely at 2000 years. We call it Egyptian Mythology, so should we also say Christian Mythology? or is Christianity so current that it's no myth...? i don't know... also, i don't believe that u must believe in the Bible to believe in God... Religion and belief are different...

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i have been using NB for a long time and never really felt like making an account, but religious debates always make me want to voice my opinion.

ok first i want to say to all of the religious people.... stop saying what you think we think. you dont know what an agnostic/athiest truly thinks and you cant know what anybody thinks unless they tell you so stop please.

next i want to say that in life and death situations all people pray to be saved because they dont want to die. it is natural so if they pray to god it doesnt mean they truly believe it just means they want to be saved. i could pray to be saved and never truly believe in god, now does that make me a true believer? no because i dont truly believe i just wanted to be saved from a situation that i couldnt control.

next i want to say i am agnostic because i dont have any proof that god exists or doesnt. there is proof on both sides that cant really be called proof because there is so much speculation about it (the bible and the big bang)

also i see that everyone is bashing on the athiests/agnostics. that isnt very loving to them. you can try to convert us if you want but throwing a tantrum, sticking your thumbs in your ears and saying you are right no matter what the others say to you doesnt help the converting cause.

thats all for me
 

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it all depends in interpretation and im not religious...religious ppl are bound to the laws of man im bound to the laws of god thru jesus

“He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

how in the hell can you interpret that in any other way?? that was said by jesus by the way, so when your children say, "i hate you dad!" for not buying him the x-box 790, ill be expecting too read his obituary in the paper :flaw:
 

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For example if you watch american tv-shows they thank god when they win a million dollars. That is stupid if anything. Doesn't bible say something about sharing and that you shouldn't have too much wealth?

That doesn't mean we should force ourselves in poverty, it means that we shouldn't make money our priority in our life. Giving to the community yes is apart of the job yes, but thats up to the person who is given the money and how they perceive their own religion, because not all of us see Christianity in the same way just look at the ten million denotations there are. Thanking God for something good in your life isn't a bad thing, and we don't choose what state we are born in rich or poor. But what we do know is that whatever position we are put in God has put us there to make a difference big or small.
 

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"The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree..."
 
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The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

Well said, well said.
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god also tells us too kill people that work on sundays, and kill our children who talk back to us, according too the bible at least.. and murder is a sin.. so wat is all that about? why would he create a being capable of sin in the first place..

Those were rules our ancestors if they wanted to earn the love of God, and rules he set up so we would know what we had to do to stay in the grace of God , but that is why God sent Jesus so that all we have to do is, but accept Jesus as our savior, and walk in his footstep as closely as we can. He created us to be his people, but he didn't want a bunch of robots following him just because it was programmed into them. He wants all of us to chose, and come to him willingly, and it in turn gave us our will to chose. Adam and Eve back then represented the best of us, and all of us. and in choosing to believe Satan over God we fell along side Adam, and Eve, and that in turn introduced us to sin.
 

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I do not understand your point.

My point was that thanking god for material stuff but saying to the africans that "god works in mysterious ways" is silly.

im sorry ok... that is a ridiculous thing man made to justify things like that theres no place in the bible that says that therefore is man made and whoever prays for material stuff is being ignorant because God gives you what you need not what you want thats also saying you got a good relationship.

the whole reason why they invented that old saying "god works in mysterious ways" is because they cant say how god is gonna do things you got to have faith

so ill agree with you in that whoever says that is silly
 

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Those were rules our ancestors if they wanted to earn the love of God, and rules he set up so we would know what we had to do to stay in the grace of God , but that is why God sent Jesus so that all we have to do is, but accept Jesus as our savior, and walk in his footstep as closely as we can. He created us to be his people, but he didn't want a bunch of robots following him just because it was programmed into them. He wants all of us to chose, and come to him willingly, and it in turn gave us our will to chose. Adam and Eve back then represented the best of us, and all of us. and in choosing to believe Satan over God we fell along side Adam, and Eve, and that in turn introduced us to sin.

Why does God punish me because that bitch ate apples?
 

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Why does God punish me because that bitch ate apples?

Because like I said before they represented the best of us, and if the best of fell then what would be different if anyone else who have been in their shoes. I don't see anyone else trying to live a life completely without sin.
 

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Those were rules our ancestors if they wanted to earn the love of God, and rules he set up so we would know what we had to do to stay in the grace of God , but that is why God sent Jesus so that all we have to do is, but accept Jesus as our savior, and walk in his footstep as closely as we can. He created us to be his people, but he didn't want a bunch of robots following him just because it was programmed into them. He wants all of us to chose, and come to him willingly, and it in turn gave us our will to chose. Adam and Eve back then represented the best of us, and all of us. and in choosing to believe Satan over God we fell along side Adam, and Eve, and that in turn introduced us to sin.

so than your point of view is that all of this is jus a game because god got bored? why create these insignificant little creatures on this chunk of rock with no idea why they are there and no idea how it was created..
 

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Because like I said before they represented the best of us, and if the best of fell then what would be different if anyone else who have been in their shoes. I don't see anyone else trying to live a life completely without sin.

But God set up a trap for her? Just like the dinosaurs are fake so when I don't believe earth is 6000 years old so I go to hell.
 

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so than your point of view is that all of this is jus a game because god got bored? why create these insignificant little creatures on this chunk of rock with no idea why they are there and no idea how it was created..

We were created to worship God, and be his people that why we are here, and in turn God will grant us our wildest dreams, anything beyond the Day of Judgment is beyond me.
 

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“He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

how in the hell can you interpret that in any other way?? that was said by jesus by the way, so when your children say, "i hate you dad!" for not buying him the x-box 790, ill be expecting too read his obituary in the paper :flaw:

thats funny because that just means that they will suffer when they die and your not using the correct example is more like if your kid beat you up physically verbally and with there heart/soul aka they really mean it and dont repent and change there ways they will suffer when they die.:) i cant tell you how many times ppl try to use that
 

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But God set up a trap for her? Just like the dinosaurs are fake so when I don't believe earth is 6000 years old so I go to hell.

No God didn't Satan did and she fell for it. I'm pretty sure the whole 6000 years has been proven wrong through science , and pretty much anyone who still believes that is in denial. I mean come the Chinese Dynasties are proof that the earth is way older than 6000 yrs. But I don't know those Dinosaur bones out there do look fake haha jk
 

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thats funny because that just means that they will suffer when they die and your not using the correct example is more like if your kid beat you up physically verbally and with there heart/soul aka they really mean it and dont repent and change there ways they will suffer when they die.:) i cant tell you how many times ppl try to use that

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

haha, ok, than you support the killing of homosexuals.. jesus says this too.. this cannot possibly be interpreted in any other way, and if you try too spin it, than you are jus a fool in denial..
 

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This isn't what every Christian thinks. Please don't base your opinion on Christian's because of things said like this.

Believe in what you want to believe in. I'm a Christian, I don't care what people think about my decision. God isn't for you? Fine, I hope you can find something else

I personally believe, but that doesn't mean that others should

I agree but trying to convert without force or oppression just with persuasion is okayxd
 

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This thread should get closed. :|
So off-topic, omg.

It's just deviated into some Christianity "zomg the Bible forbids _____" thread. ._.
 
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