Why are you atheists/agnostic?

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Darth Atlas

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oke, I don't believe in god. I do however like the original idea of religion (like/help your fellow person) and life by that idea.

the reason one would/wouldn't believe in god is his mindset.

if you want to follow a super natural something go ahead and follow it.
it will soften life for you a bit.

if you want to have the full blow of life in your face go ahead and disregard god.
in the end it doesn't matter.

besides all these discussions are useless.
just let a person believe what a person wants to believe.
whether is be himself or god but don't judge people just because they don't believe in your god and don't follow the rules of your god.


and lastly, religion is kinda messed up atm.
the original idea has disappeared

Ah yes but u have to remember even though the major source is messed up the other people like me remember the basic principle of religion is to teach good will towards others and teach that to be successful in life you hav to keep an open mind. So yes u hav the birth given right to believe in what you want but even though u have the right to believe what we want we shouldn't impose what we believe on others. And no discussions arent useless we discover new things about others we didn't know. Not all religious people judge others for what they believe in.
 

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I know , but such a long development made me doubt if it was really that simple

I follow what my logic accepts as true I guess

Like I said in my first post,

Scientist can't prove the big-bang and the world can't have created itself on it's own as it didn't exist before hand , preventing it from building anything :|

But nor can religious prove gods existence and the same thing applies to him. If god made everything, what is gods origin?

For me it will always remain an answer-less question. Unless there is an afterlife that is, then I guess you would learn once your passage on this world is over....

To me, both sides are full of good, but both are also full of flaws. None seems more plausible or attractive than the other to me. So I just live my life as it is

The big bang was mentioned in the Kur'an something like :
"I created the world out of nothing"
Science only probes that God exists IMAO
 

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While I personally don't condone homosexuality, I don't agree with this at all.

  • Comparing homosexuality to homocide is flawed; homosexuality is a matter of preference in ***, whilst homocide is simply murder (assuming it's unreasonable murder which in this context I figure it is). The former is justified as it isn't a matter of choice, rather it's a matter of sexual attraction. As opposed to the latter simply being killing other individual(s). Which generally isn't a justifiable action.
  • Fornication? Fornication isn't "normal" by your logic. Fornicating, which by definition is having sexual intercourse with a female without being courted or otherwise married is frowned upon and isn't acceptable by religious and other general standards.
  • Scientific fact, yes. Valid argument? No. The reasoning behind this is simply to reproduce. Not to determine who appeals to you, who you love, etc.

The point is ir is not normal for a man to marry a man the same what it is not normal for a human to kill a human. Wether its *** within marrage or fornication it proves what i was trying to say. How can you say a scientific fact isnt a valid arguement? A man who loves another man will not wish to reproduce with a woman will they? and that is un-natural.
 

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The big bang was mentioned in the Kur'an something like :
"I created the world out of nothing"
Science only probes that God exists IMAO

and how is that?
 

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The big bang was mentioned in the Kur'an something like :
"I created the world out of nothing"
Science only probes that God exists IMAO

That does not prove anything.
 

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Satanism is beleiving YOU to be the god of you'r self. You can find more info in the webs, because im too lazy to type it all in here.

P.S Satanism should'n be confused with devil worship, that's just dumb.

Satanism and "devil worship" are virtually the same thing: both are basically worshiping satan.

 

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I expected more :| you usually verbally rape me in debates xd

lmaoo do i??? no this isnt a debate thread lol.. im not even in debate mode. i was very curious to others opinions and beliefs and i wanted to listen and try to understand..

people here are debating and im just confused why cuz like someone else said earlier, this isnt a deabte thread
 

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Based on findings of physics in the field of material half-life something strange have been found: whole material, energy and anything based on quantums even space and time have a birth date. and thats the same birth date. that's the date assigned to "BIG BANG"
but u havent get the point yet. before that exact moment there was NOTHING cause beings would not exist before that. google what i said but be ware of bunch of older findings. we can bring theories about after that moment which last for 10^-34 seconds but the problem is :"HOW THIS DENSED MATERIAL, TIME AND SPACE COME TO EXIST FROM NOTHING" the answer is: 1- those do not exist, hence we do not too, and that would be rejected by cognition cause we DO exist. 2- some supernatural power created those from nothing
 

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Just wanted to comment on the science vs religion debate over there, that no matter how much you try to prove your point, the other has a ''good answer'' like religious people say: The big bang couldn't happen by itself you know? or ''there just isn't enough proof :/

+ Devil worship is worshipping Lucifer/Devil, Satanism well, just read this, it should clear it well enough...



PS your link isn't working...
 
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lmaoo do i??? no this isnt a debate thread lol.. im not even in debate mode. i was very curious to others opinions and beliefs and i wanted to listen and try to understand..

people here are debating and im just confused why cuz like someone else said earlier, this isnt a deabte thread

yeah you do xd

I know it ain't a debate but I was expecting someone of an answer on your own belief or your thoughts on mine but I guess you got a point that only atheists and agnostics are involved :eek:
 

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yeah you do xd

I know it ain't a debate but I was expecting someone of an answer on your own belief or your thoughts on mine but I guess you got a point that only atheists and agnostics are involved :eek:

lol i cant recall debating you lol im sorry..

but yea thats why i didnt give my opinion on it i just wanted to listen and understand and you were pretty thurough and i didnt even know what else to say or ask.. sorry i was kinda blunt with just "ok"..
 

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lol i cant recall debating you lol im sorry..

but yea thats why i didnt give my opinion on it i just wanted to listen and understand and you were pretty thurough and i didnt even know what else to say or ask.. sorry i was kinda blunt with just "ok"..

Last time was a while ago xd, I stayed far from danger zone lol
 

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well refresh my memory and tell me the thread or at least the topic.. and lol "danger zone"? wow

Yeah, I'm exaggerating there no "danger zone" but still xd

Lets see heum I'm pretty sure it was one of those Religion vs atheist thread as a matter of fact
During summer, about 6months ago, no surprise you don't recall, even I barely do
 

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Fortunately I'm out of this, because I beleive in a god...I do have a religion.
 

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Because it makes more sense to me that the universe was self-created randomly, that that an old man that pre-existed created it...

Btw, it could turn into a great discussion, indeed...
 

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and how is that?

its hard to explain but Ill try
the earth was crated after the big bang and just month after another planet crashed into the earth planet the moon was crated and the Moon is the actual reason why we exist in the first place And the green vegetation provides the air
that we breath everything is in harmony its perfect too perfect The earth and the moon where crated only for the Human race and every creature on the earth is there to protect that harmony (which we are destroying btw )
 

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I am agnostic because while I feel there is a God I also believe that Nobody has any idea on his general nature. It makes more sense to me that way. If there was one God wouldn't that mean there would be one religion? If Religion was real he wouldn't reveal himself to just a single group of people rather everybody. I don't see how or why it would do that.
 
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