Why are you atheists/agnostic?

[Nupp]

Ok if there is no God where would anything come from

Ok if there is a god where did god come from?

Maybe another god made the god that made our universe..... But who made the god that made our god?

 

[Itachi Minato]

there has to be a god because the world didnt come out of now where but i agree tat religion has changed and Muslims Christians and all the other religions have changed over time and that very little amount of people research their own religion i am Muslim but i am so because i dont believe Jesus is the son of god and i think that we should try to make people believe in god because if there is a god and they dont believe in him then its bad for them and if u have a friend then u wouldnt want them to be punished but nobody should force anyone believe anything

 

[UchihaBrat]

It is because I believe in heaven and I believe that there is a God human's wouldn't be created for just this purpose
also why don't you believe in God

But belief doesn't make knowledge more credible, so one cannot be truly sure of it right? It is only belief in the end, no?
It's like rumours isn't it? Someone tells you something about another person, you don't know for yourself, so it may be false and is therefore unconfirmed and might remain so forever. Most of our knowledge on Gods etc. is second-handed isn't it?

I do not believe because I'm careful with what I or someone else can't(or haven't) prove to be true or not. It's the same with the rumours again, I wouldn't believe what someone said about another just like that, he/she might be making it up.

 

[JojocIaw]

Why are people arguing about religion when the OP meant to just hear the opinions of the agnostic/atheist like me? If you guys want to argue about religion then make your own thread. U_U

 

[BusinessManTeno]

You ever heard of the big bang? And did you know that scientists have proven that the earth was created by Astroids crashing into each other and molding into the earth and the how the sun was born like all others in a Nebula :|

O_O
you nor scientist have proof. Like you guys are saying. YOU wasnt there nor scientist. So science in you guys eyes is like religion in my eyes. but there is only 1 truth

I am going to try to keep my cool. I am ignoring some of the posts here since some of them are dead set in their ways. U_U

People need a reason to exist. That is human nature whatever way you look at it. It is a desire of the heart.

To caste people for not following your ideals or beliefs is barbaric and ignorant. U_U

may i give you a hug to help keep your cool
=DD

Ok if there is no God where would anything come from

i wanna know also.

 

[Nupp]

Everybody soul who is pure go to heaven.
and he warned everybody. your argument is not good

thats like me saying
"Nupp. at 5 ocklock im gonna kill you and your family at your house"

Its up to you to believe it or not
but if i bust in their at 5 ocklock and start blasten then yull have to believe me the

another thing. u saying you dont believe in GOD but yet you are quoting something that happened in the bible (The arc) which is it.?

Also like he said EVERYTHING is made from a higher up.


The Govt.
Websites
Houses
(Without the sun the plants would die)
without the plants WE would die
Would NB have made itself without Big V

What you are trying to say is stuff can be made on its on. ?

So because I don't belive in god im not allowed to know about Noah's arc?

 

[sandysennin]

*subscrives thread for later comment*

 

[Mr.Beastie]

let me ask this!

What is the point of commenting..... only to prove why there isnt a GOD?

What make you want to do that?
What is the point of trying to ruin someone else's faith cause you have none?

 

[JojocIaw]

may i give you a hug to help keep your cool
=DD

Down boy! My hugs are for Lily.

But please refrain from making me blush. It will make my gf jelly.

 

[evil kakashi23]

Ok if there is a god where did god come from?

Maybe another god made the god that made our universe..... But who made the god that made our god?

the topic under discussion is God exists or not.
And there can only be one god because if there were more than one they would start fighting among themselves and the world would collapse

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Ok if there is a god where did god come from?

Maybe another god made the god that made our universe..... But who made the god that made our god?

Actually i wander that at times also. lol

So because I don't belive in god im not allowed to know about Noah's arc?

No
but if you dont believe in god
how can you say "He killed all the fish and humans etc"
you only believe in god to say he done bad things

Down boy! My hugs are for Lily.

But please refrain from making me blush. It will make my gf jelly.

*puppy dog eyes*

 

[UchihaBrat]

Why are people arguing about religion when the OP meant to just hear the opinions of the agnostic/atheist like me? If you guys want to argue about religion then make your own thread. U_U

Mine conversation is very much relevant lassie! Read before you judge~

let me ask this!

What is the point of commenting..... only to prove why there isnt a GOD?

What make you want to do that?
What is the point of trying to ruin someone else's faith cause you have none?

I'm simply inquiring and conversing, I'm not trying with something so crude~

 

[I Just Died]

Is it because you just want freedom in general from practicing any religious beliefs?
I'm an atheist but that does mean I don't go to church every once and a while...
For some people they just hear some guy talking about some other guy, or they go to church just to make themselves feel like a better person... When they hear the pastor talking all they really hear is white noise and they often ask themselves why they are here if I don't know what is really happening. Or they hear it and it just doesn't make a life difference...
Well that how I see it at least.

 

[JojocIaw]

the topic under discussion is God exists or not.

FAIL. The topic under discussion is:

Why are you atheists/agnostic?

Which means if you are not or do not have anything nice to say then you are in the wrong thread.

Want to argue about religion, which is what you are doing, then make a separate thread.

Thank you, have a nice day.

Mine conversation is very much relevant lassie! Read before you judge~

My apologies but if you were sharing your opinions I have no problem nor should I. But I do not take kindly if people are jumping in and going off topic by posting arguments against us(atheists/agnostics) when the topic is why we (atheists/agnostics) believe what we believe.


Anyways, to answer the question the OP made....

I stand to lose my individual freedom to love whomever I choose. If I were to engage in any such christian/islamic denomination or affiliation I would be banned from being in love with women since lesbianism is a sin.

 

[SSW Imp]

I have only seen a few atheists/agnostics even comment about qthe question but they are starting arguments

 

[Passion]

Why are people arguing about religion when the OP meant to just hear the opinions of the agnostic/atheist like me? If you guys want to argue about religion then make your own thread. U_U

They just cannot accept the possibility that some of them, if not all have dedicated their lives in serving something that doesn't exist. So therefore they're arguing which one(s) has/have been wrong. Perhaps someday they'll realize that even though they yell the loudest, that won't make them right.

Yes, I am an atheist and a skeptic one. If you've got something to complain about, please do so.

 

[evil kakashi23]

 

[ZK]

I do believe everything happens for a reason

Your wife probally cheated on you. so you can realize shes not the one for you. Hard to accept but its the truth

you probally got cancer so that you live through it. and tell people how you lived through it and survived. you save lives by telling ppl your story while your on the death bed

Your sisters death? Idk. Everybody is born with an experation date. dont expect people to live forever

i personally dont claim to be CHRISTIAN i simply say i believe in the father,son, and the holy spirit. he died on the cross for me etc.

the Christian title is also getting corupted. i do agree with you guyys to that part. But everybody that believes in god are...... Judgemental.

thats like saying all black people love chicken

and all white people are racist

Look beyond the deeper meaning

I disagree.
I'm 16 by the way, so all my examples were just that. Examples.
My wife could've cheated on me for many reasons, but she didn't cheat on me so I could realise something. First of all, let's ask ourselves why she actually cheated on me. It could be for many reasons. Maybe I'm a bad husband? Maybe I'm violent? Maybe I'm suffocating her with my testicles every night? Who knows? But the fact remains that she didn't think 'Hey, I'll cheat on my husband so he can realise that I'm not the one for him' No, she was probably thinking that she really needed someone to hold, or someone to trust. Or maybe she just needed a bigger penis in her vagina. Again, who knows? But the fact remains that she wasn't thinking of me when she cheated on me, she was thinking of herself. Which was perfectly logical.

So, here we have two conflicting oppinions. One faction (me) thinks he's been treated unfairly because his wife has cheated on him. The other faction (my wife) thinks she's been treated unfairly, because her husband didn't treat her right. Both parties have their own arguments for acting as they did and reacting as they did. So, what's the purpose behind this?

God is, by default, an Omnipotent being that can do anything. Any physical, mental, restrictions of any kind really, doesn't apply to God in any way. You cannot aply logics to God, for you cannot even remotely understand anything God does, because he's Omnipotent.

So, how's there a higher purpose with my wife cheating on me?

For that to be actually discussed, we would have to bring cards such as 'Destiny' or 'Fate' into this discussion and honestly, this is already extremely abstract.

Why would the purpose be 'for' me? According to you, the purpose of my wife cheating on me is, and I quote; "so you can realize shes not the one for you." So, the purpose is purely there to comfort me? How's that fair? According to me, of course, my wife was the shrew and I deserve a comforting purpose for being subjected to this injustice. But my wife, she believes that it was I who did something wrong in the first place. Why is there no comforting purpose for her? God can do anything, he knows everything. He can be you, not you, not exist, be and not be simultanously.

Why would he favor me?

We cannot apply human biases when it comes to God, we cannot apply logics, we cannot apply our sense of right and wrong.

If there's a higher purpose with everything, then every action and reaction is controlled by God, meaning that we are naught but puppets.

This whole scenario 'evolves' all the time. There are so many factors to be considered. The whole purpose of all 'evil' could also be to merely emphatize on the light? But if that's true, then the 'evils' themselves have no purpose. They're simply chaos. Chaos made to show people what they shouldn't do.

I'm actually getting a headache from this. I'm so far out, man.

But that was just what I had to say on the bolded part of your post.

I'll probably get cancer so I can get through it? You're using the comforter-trick again. Hope is a peculiar thing, it can do the most amazing things. Placebo is a 'proof' of that. But hope does not originate from purpose or God (note that I'm using God, not religion in this context) My cancer might as well be meaningless, for to die a meaningfull death without actually knwoing that it's meaningful. How's that helping anyone? I really can't follow your thoughts here, you're just swamping around the same thing.

Don't expect people to live forever... I actually snorted when I read that. You do know that you're promising infinte space in Heaven to those who do good in life, right? To me, it seems like many religions are trying to make life seem like a test that exists merely to see whether or not you're ready to enter 'paradise'. You enter paradise by believeing. You believe without knowing all the facts. That means life is just about obeying without knowing. Now that's a scary thought. Jehova's witnesses are even preaching that God, the almighty being, only has limited space in his paradise.

You belive in God but not in what he, supposedly, told the humans to preach? Good, at least you've cut the worst off. You see, from the point where the Bible (for exmaple) was put in human hands, it became infected with human prejudices. Wcich makes it like any other book here on Earth.

I made the last part dark-red because I believed it to be the most important thing in your post. Look beyond, think abstract, think new.
By the way, don't try to go all mysterious on me. I couldn't help but read that in a mental-old-sage-guy voice. You're not qualified for that.

I'm here to debate, bitchiz. Tell me your opinions and I will object.

GTFO.

 

[JojocIaw]

They just cannot accept the possibility that some of them, if not all have dedicated their lives in serving something that doesn't exist. So therefore they're arguing which one(s) has/have been wrong. Perhaps someday they'll realize that even though they yell the loudest, that won't make them right.

Yes, I am an atheist and a skeptic one. If you've got something to complain about, please do so.

This isn't the thread for such banter. Besides I know where it ends....as a closed thread.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

They just cannot accept the possibility that some of them, if not all have dedicated their lives in serving something that doesn't exist. So therefore they're arguing which one(s) has/have been wrong. Perhaps someday they'll realize that even though they yell the loudest, that won't make them right.

Yes, I am an atheist and a skeptic one. If you've got something to complain about, please do so.

Im not complaining
simply telling my views

Because you dont believe in nothing soley means you live to die.

Majority of people live for a purpose.

im a christian. But even Sateness,Buddhist,Jewish, etc live to serve a higher up. I think Athiest dont believe in nothing cause they might not like what comes out of it.