Why are Uchihas so easy to be used?

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obito and esp orochimaru were used by sasuke to gain power, when he got it he discarded them. matched away and killed white zetsu in obitos case, defeated orochimaru and absorbed him

not sure how you can say konoha used itachi, he was just simply loyal. same with shisui
At first Sasuke was completely manipulated by Orochimaru.


Sasuke was completely possessed by his desire for revenge. But once Orochimaru started showing signs of blatant fatal illness and once he started to understand Orochimaru was no better than his perception of Itachi, that's when he turned.
 

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Uchihas?

Uchihas were the ones that are manipulative just look at Madara, Obito, and Itachi.

Orochimaru said Obito and Itachi manipulated Sasuke more. All Oro got was a stab to the chest.
 

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Uchiha ARE emotional people. It's not a weakness though, they're strong through their sensitivities- the Uchiha hatred cycle all comes from love. For this reason, Black Zetsu took specific note of them and begun to spin a web beyond generations or clan. You can't fault any Uchiha from Madara to Itachi to Obito for getting played by something that ancient.
 

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I think it's a bit unfair, oversimplifying, misleading and one-sided to say Uchihas are easily used...Take the examples you mentioned. Obito and Madara both were Uchihas themselves, they were not just used, but they themselves used others too. So Uchihas are also good at manipulating others (Itachi and Sasuke also manipulated others). And I don't think it's only because of their emotional unstability...f.e, Itachi wasn't really the emo bishing type, and note that he could keep both Obito and Danzo at bay. So you shouldn't generalize...In case of Madara or Sasuke it had much to do with revenge and the hunger for power as well, but the latter could also be said about Orochimaru, yet the guy was one of the best manipulators out there. Sure you can trace this back to some childhood trauma (f.e losing parents) but that's some oversimplified Freudian approach imo. Many characters lost their parents but it doesn't mean they were easily being manipulated (take Iruka, Naruto or Gaara - these three were also being manipulated but they had a change of heart, just like Sasuke or Obito had a change of heart ).

As for revenge, I think Nagato falls in this category too, along with Obito I think, but at the same time both of them had a genuine desire for peace deep inside.

Also, if you look at their cases individually, I think that there are stark differences that should be considered. In Obito's case, for example, Madara saved him and set him up, told him lies and brainwashed him. You can say that Madara was using Obito but you can't really blame him of being 'easily' used. Or in Sasuke's case, he was just a kid, left all alone, and Itachi planned that Sasuke would live for revenge. But you can't really say Itachi used Sasuke. As for Orochimaru, Sasuke perfectly knew that Oro wanted his body, but he was fine with that, so you can't say that Orochimaru used Sasuke so easily. Sasuke went to Orochimaru on his own, willing to lose his body as long as it meant gaining enough power to defeat Itachi, but when Sasuke realized his own strength, he used Orochimaru. He also used Karin and the others.

Note that the Uchiha's history was many a times about using each other to gain more strength (taking each other's eyes and stuff).

And let's not forget that the whoel ninja thing is about deception.
 
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Sasuke was used by Itachi and Obito and Orochimaru
Fair.

Obito was used by Madara
Fair.

Itachi was used by Obito and Konaha

Shisui was used by Konaha
Itachi willingly went to Akatsuki after willingly taking the mission assigned to him by the village.

Shisui willingly gave his remaining eye to Itachi in order to protect the village.

These two are like all the other shinobi in Konoha, doing things for the village. This isn't by manipulation, but due to a strong sense of duty that they do things they wouldn't want to do in initial circumstance. At most, they're blackmailed by terrible circumstance, but this happens to everyone both in fiction and real life.

Madara was used by Kaguya and BZ
Fair

It's like a trend for these guys to get manipulated.
The general clan and Madara/Sasuke/Obito were manipulated due to their lust for power and/or self-centered emotions. But not everyone was manipulated- exceptions being Itachi, Shisui, and some other likely unnamed Uchiha in history.

It's the same as Naruto. His emotions cause him to go to excessive lengths to pursue his so-called best friend, a best friend who doesn't return much until the final chapters. He's in the same league as Obito/Sasuke/Madara. He'd give up his friends if it'd mean saving Sasuke.
 

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Well, being used? It's just a perception. When you are in a vulnerable phase, your options are limited. For Itachi, he wasn't used, he simply had understanding beyond the Kage's comprehension, that was why he stopped the Edo tensei. It's not about being a Muslim or Christian, an American or Arab, Itachi lived above these, as that's the key to peace.
 

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As for Sasuke, he did the norm, following normal physiology; like America going to war because of 9/11. Also, Sasuke wasn't used but used Orochimaru even though younger. He used Orochimaru to get strength and achieve his goal of killing Itachi, and killed Orochimaru off when he felt Orochimaru was no longer useful and brought him back when he wanted to use him again. Bear in mind that Sasuke suffered the most after Itachi if you understand the relationship between suffering and love.
 

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Sasuke kept his philosophy of not killing until he learnt about Kong ha dirty politics that resulted in the sacrifice of his beloved brother. Same thing Na gate pointed out to Naruto after Naruto wanted to avenge the death of Jiraya. It's the same everywhere just like the feeling towards terrorist and suspicion of Muslims. The only way is to turn the other cheek and forgive.
 

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At first Sasuke was completely manipulated by Orochimaru.


Sasuke was completely possessed by his desire for revenge. But once Orochimaru started showing signs of blatant fatal illness and once he started to understand Orochimaru was no better than his perception of Itachi, that's when he turned.
i dont think so. i believe he was just saying that to lower naruto and the teams morale and heres why i say so

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judging from that, his plan was to recruit a team that can help him out in his quest and he said he had planned it all since he came to orochimaru which makes sense because he wont be able to get access to suigetsu and the others without getting rid of orochimaru first which when he did, he could freely go one to recruit the team which was his true wish.

he has been basically been deceiving orochimaru ever since coming to him.
 
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