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the byakugan isn't that strong, the sharingan is stronger
Orochimaru wanted the Sharingan not the byakugan, because it's stronger
MS Sasuke > any version of Neji

Well, oro didn't experiment in the byakugan to see it's potential. He wanted the sharingan so badly because he lost to itachi. So itachi's abilities are the ones that did make oro so obsessed with the sharingan and ignore a lot of things that could make him even stronger.
 

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KKG isn't the only factor otherwise he would've chosen other Uchiha before Sasuke. He specifically wanted someone with the potential to unlock Hagoromo's power.

And the reason he had Sasuke as his only target is because he knew only a specific type of Uchiha had the eyes capable of evolving into Rinnegan. In addition, an Indra incarnate suited Oro better as a vessel because of the ninjutsu versatility he would gain.
Yet he wanted Itachi. Itachi was stronger than him so he went after Sasuke who he found out had a stronger Sharingan and more potential than Itachi. That's why he wanted Sasuke's body and because Sasuke was naturally compatible with Senjutsu chakra so he could learn SM.
 

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Such a moronic thread.Him being on par with MS Sasuke implies he is equal to SM Naruto who can take out 4 out of 5 Pain bodies which is BA when he was struggling fighting himself in the beginning. Pathetic thread
 

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So we're denying manga facts now :coffee:


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Wrong, pre-cognition is an insight feat and Hyuga use it when they cast the 64 tri gram jutsu. Based on manga fact Hyuga have superior pre-cog, whether they have the reaction time to match their pre-cog depends on the user's shunshin. But part 1 Neji was able to react to Naruto with Kurama cloak with no problem.

Yes, the Byakugan is better than a 3T Sharingan, but once that Sharingan evolves, the Byakugan is no longer the strongest.
 

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Yes, the Byakugan is better than a 3T Sharingan, but once that Sharingan evolves, the Byakugan is no longer the strongest.

Why's that? Byakugan can still counter all of MS's abilities.
 

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Since when does Byakugan read movements? Last i knew was with 360 vision they just know when someone is gonna do a blindside attack(Naruto vs Neji. Neji vs Kidomaru) they never legit read movements iirc.

It can perceive movements acutely and can track the most sensitive of movements which means it can read movements in a different sense. People like Neji could perceive and accurately track pin tip sized Chakra-points simultaneously apply physical action to press them which to Kakashi is a feat of note regardless of Sharingan/Byakugan.
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The Byakugan perception allows the user to better perceive the trajectory/movements of incoming attacks and multitudes of fast simultaneous attacks can all be mentally taken into account at once the moment they come into sight.
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Its Eye-sight is acutely responsive to the slightest of movements which is why Kishi had Neji activate Byakugan to accurately Perceive Gated Lee alongside Kakashi.
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So i wouldn't say it can READ movements , but more so accurately perceive , discern, recognize, become cognizant of, become aware of, distinguish, grasp, understand, take in, make out, find, identify, , comprehend, , figure out, deduce, conclude, and discover most things much more acutely.
 

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Neji is on par with base 3T Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke is above him. MS Sasuke is far above him.
 

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Neji is on par with base 3T Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke is above him. MS Sasuke is far above him.

What feats does 3T Sasuke have ? Last I checked ninjutsu is useless against Juken :lol

Yes, the Byakugan is better than a 3T Sharingan, but once that Sharingan evolves, the Byakugan is no longer the strongest.

Nope you missed the most important factor that Byakugan user have. MS feats that are ninjutsu won't work on Juken because they're still made of chakra.

Heck even with Rinnegan powers Sasuke wasn't immune to Gentle Fist. MS users can still be beaten by a Byakugan user that's skill full enough.
 
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Byakugan is strong and has it's own advantages but Sharingan should never be underestimated theres a reason Uchiha were so feared and regarded as one of the two strongest clans to ever exist and Sharingan is one of many reasons why both ares strong but in battle i'd rather have Sharingan personally.
 

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SenseiSama solos. Believe in the Hype!
 

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Its only as powerful as Kishi wants it to be. A simple chakra ball rasengan may kill someone while same rasengan will only hurt the other. Mqdara's Katon is stronger than most of Kekkai genkai elements.
 

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Anyone here will admit that if they could choose between having the Byakugan or Sharingan, they would choose the Sharingan. The Byakugan has no insight ability. Despite Kakashi saying that, it's abilities do not reflect his claim. The Byakugan can see through things but cannot anticipate things.

The Sharingan can literally see your next move before you even make it. Even if you can see things up to 360 degrees with your Byakugan, you're still seeing them in the same speed that the normal human eye can see them. The Sharingan literally slows the world down for the user, allowing them to see every move before it's even made.

The Sharingan is pretty much a heavenly ability with the Byakugan coming in a close second. The type of abilities that the MS grants are amazing, especially if we're using Kamui as an example. Anyone with more chakra than a Byakugan user, and devastating ranged attacks can defeat a Jyuuken user with no doubt. The Byakugan is not as useful as it seems, especially against someone who knows of it's capabilities.
 

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Had a good laugh reading this twice lmao
 

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I didn't know that !
The sharingan is stronger though! 3t Sasuke at the valley of the end handled Naruto when he was influenced by the kyuubi chakra better than Neji did at the chuunin exams! that's because the Sharingan is better!

Bit Sasuke also used Curse mark I and II. But I still agree with your point. Once Sauce gets MS I don't think Neji could win. He has the techs but they just aren't strong enough.

Let's see what Ikemoto does with the Byakugan. If it is given some evolutionary paths then we can revisit this topic and compare the 2 doujutsu again.
 

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i'll believe he's on that lvl when somebody can make a bulletproof case that War Arc Neji would undoubtedly beat all of MS Sasuke's opponents.
 

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I'm sorry, but looking at the stark facts and not trying to pry into something that doesn't even appear in the manga, MS Sasuke would beat War Arc Neji. They both are the same speed according to the OFFICIAL Databook (3rd one in case anyone wants to look it up) and since the Sharingan has precognitive abilities, which the byakugan does not (not ever stated or shown in the manga, and being able to see attacks 360 degrees around does not count), Sasuke could maneuver around Neji's Jyuuken because of his precognitive abilities. If you throw an attack to seal my tenketsu, and I see that attack before it happens, there is no way in hell that I am going to let you hit me.

And those of you comparing Neji's Jyuuken to Kagyua's supposed Jyuuken: you cannot do that. We are speaking of what Neji can do during the war, not what he might have potential to do (very unlikely since he is not a god, nor has god like chakra). So the likelyhood of Neji's Jyuuken taking down Sasuke is very slim.

The Sharingan has been more developed than the Byakugan, yes, however speculating on what Neji might be able to do if the Byakugan was developed is not making a fair argument, because the creator didn't come up with it.

Let's see what Ikemoto does with the Byakugan. If it is given some evolutionary paths then we can revisit this topic and compare the 2 doujutsu again.

I even disagree with this, because just because Boruto or Himawari can do it, doesn't mean that war arc Neji can. I agree with comparing the Dojutsu, but there is no way War Neji could take on MS Sasuke. War Neji could probably take 3t Sasuke, but that is even a stretch, because that implies that War Neji could take down Itachi, one of the greatest prodigies of all time. I'd say that 3t Sasuke and War Neji are about on the same tier. But War Neji couldn't take on SM Naruto (who is on the same tier as MS Sasuke), so there is no way War Neji could take down MS Sasuke.
 

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Where is your proof to all of this? No Scans? Are you trying to troll?
 

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Distance and versatility were conviently left out of yout equation.

Ms sasuke would rekt War arc Neji.

Why?

1) Sasuke is much faster than Neji and neji entire arsenal is short ranged.

2) Sasuke is way more versatile as he has hawk summons and long to mid range katon and lightning

3) Neji is not rotating Sasuke arrow which based on feats seem way faster than Neji rotation.

4) Neji has no counters to any of Sasukes abilities other than roatation essentially making him a turtle.

If the fight was close range only then Neji would have a chance but outside of 10-15m Neji is going to get torn apart
 
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