Why are people so jelaous
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Narutobirama
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Still, if he uses 8 gates, he dies. So, it is not like activating 8 gates makes him victorious. But I agree, 8 gates are cool.
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Lol madara fans are getting salty all over again 
, de ja vu hits harder when animated :Sparks:. Anyway eight gates hype was too much, kishi was not about to let it look like it was something someone could tank. Gai is officially the best taijiysu user, manga facts as stated by madara himself, madara fans can't deny their fave's words :bdpf:.
On a serious note, people don't like the fact that madara could easily make the seventh gate look like a joke while he gets beaten by the gate of death, it may be due to Madara's fame and prestige as being a juubi Jin with SM hashirama's power, rinnegan, and Madara's own incredibly sensing abilities should be more than enough to keep up with the eighth gate. Which they forget that madara was able to track gai's movements via the rinnegan and sensing, however, Seikizou (evening elephant) hits from multiple directions extremely quickly that madara couldn't defend from as they were blind spots. Also the night gai bends the air pressure which affected Madara's staff so madara could defend from that. Also the force of gai's strikes stunned madara due to momentum. But this is just a serious explanation.
, de ja vu hits harder when animated :Sparks:. Anyway eight gates hype was too much, kishi was not about to let it look like it was something someone could tank. Gai is officially the best taijiysu user, manga facts as stated by madara himself, madara fans can't deny their fave's words :bdpf:.On a serious note, people don't like the fact that madara could easily make the seventh gate look like a joke while he gets beaten by the gate of death, it may be due to Madara's fame and prestige as being a juubi Jin with SM hashirama's power, rinnegan, and Madara's own incredibly sensing abilities should be more than enough to keep up with the eighth gate. Which they forget that madara was able to track gai's movements via the rinnegan and sensing, however, Seikizou (evening elephant) hits from multiple directions extremely quickly that madara couldn't defend from as they were blind spots. Also the night gai bends the air pressure which affected Madara's staff so madara could defend from that. Also the force of gai's strikes stunned madara due to momentum. But this is just a serious explanation.
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If they die first, he wins. Gai being killed because the power he used to kill the opponent is too great>enemy killing him.
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Obito the supreme jin
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I liked Guy and his 8 Gates Technique. He would solo my fave if my fave didn't go into his RSM Mode easily.
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Nah, kill your enemy first and you will win, it doesn't matter if you die right after.
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No, according to most rules people set when debating about battles between characters, it is agreed that if both sides die, even if one takes longer, it is declared a draw. The only possible win for Guy in 8 gates would be either in a team battle where someone like Naruto could heal him or if it is a scenario battle in which Guy is allowed to die, as long as he achieves his goal.
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Nope. In this case gai kills his opponent before dying and therefore completes the objective while he is still alive, everything that happens right after is irrelevant. The point of VS matches or combats in general is to kill/eliminate/beat the other person, there is no rule of "staying alive".
Not in narutobase, we don't do that gay shit. Besides it is ultimately your decision, it's up to what rules the debaters agree on in the very beginning , which in this case I personally don't
VS matches are made in order to know which one of two characters is stronger, not which one can stay alive.
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I consider a draw if two people kill each other. If one person kills the other then dies because of their own power, then the other person didn't kill them.
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That is where you're wrong. If Guy was truly stronger than his opponent then he wouldn't be pushed to the point of suicide in the first place. Using a suicide technique at all is basically an admission of defeat. Therefore anybody using a suicide technique can at most draw (if they successfully finish their opponent) or else they lose. They can not win.
If person A forces person B to commit suicide in order to even stand a chance, then person A essentially killed person B, so person A >>>>> person B. The order of death is irrelevant.
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Being stronger than your opponent means you can overwhelm them with power. Whether or not you die as a result doesn't change that. To win, you must kill your opponent. If your opponent kills themselves and you, then you didn't kill them, so you didn't win. They killed you, so they win.
I am expressing my own standards for victory, you are expressing yours. But idc what yours are, I go by mine.
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