Why are people saying madara was manipulated...

[IPulseZz]

He was tricked/betrayed. I don't think people here know what it means to be manipulated lol.

- Kaguya never planned out for this to happen to madara throughout his life.
- Kaguya never had an influence on madara.
- Kaguya was simply waiting for someone as powerful as madara to come along, who would be able to get the rinnegan, the juubi so she could try and take over them.

Obito was manipulated by madara because he planned for all that to happen to him, obito was skilfully used to bring out his hidden power and help achieve Madara's goals.

Also we shouldn't think madara is done for just yet. Just saying for those who think madara is done for.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

yeah..madara hasn't been manipulated insofar as ppl claim it to be...

but perhaps kaguya played a role in saving him in VOTE

 

[Kαmi]

I think it's because Madara was tricked to absorb the tree by Kaguya. I wouldn't say he was manipulated though, just betrayed.

 

[Klad]

dem madara fanboys tjo

madara was ****ing manipulated .

 

[vasu 32]

He was tricked/betrayed. I don't think people here know what it means to be manipulated lol.

- Kaguya never planned out for this to happen to madara throughout his life.
- Kaguya never had an influence on madara.
- Kaguya was simply waiting for someone as powerful as madara to come along, who would be able to get the rinnegan, the juubi so she could try and take over them.

Obito was manipulated by madara because he planned for all that to happen to him, obito was skilfully used to bring out his hidden power and help achieve Madara's goals.

Also we shouldn't think madara is done for just yet. Just saying for those who think madara is done for.

Just because they are kids. Taking advantage of someones work is not manipulation. But then again you did say the same for Obito being manipulated and Madara falls in the same category as Madara was skill fully used to bring out his hidden power and help achieve BZ/Kaguya/Jubi's goals,by your logic.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

yeah..madara hasn't been manipulated insofar as ppl claim it to be...

but perhaps kaguya played a role in saving him in VOTE

That thought crossed my mind too.

 

[Angelic.]

perhaps shinju kaguya wanted to be revived tho. and indra dumb so of course it would happen.

 

[IPulseZz]

Just because they are kids. Taking advantage of someones work is not manipulation. But then again you did say the same for Obito being manipulated and Madara falls in the same category as Madara was skill fully used to bring out his hidden power and help achieve BZ/Kaguya/Jubi's goals,by your logic.

No madara orchestrated the main events in Obito's life eg rin dying. He then used him to fulfil his role while he was away. Kaguya hasn't been mentioned up until the god tree got destroyed by naruto.

Madara trusted black zetsu, black zetsu abused that trust and loyalty, meaning he was betrayed...

 

[IPulseZz]

yeah..madara hasn't been manipulated insofar as ppl claim it to be...

but perhaps kaguya played a role in saving him in VOTE

Tbh it would be an ass-pull if she did but it's highly unlikely since she's in the god tree and juubi was trapped inside that thing which was all the up in the moon.

Maybe it was Indra's chakra that did something? Or madara faked his own death but had enough energy to implant hashirama DNA inside himself?

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hmmm...I don't know BZ did say that he created Madara.....

 

[IPulseZz]

Hmmm...I don't know BZ did say that he created Madara.....

BZ created madara? Lel is BZ his dad then?

Not but srsly when did he say that?

 

[Nebula]

If he wasn't manipulated I guess he's just dumb.

 

[RikudouMadara]

BZ created madara? Lel is BZ his dad then?

Not but srsly when did he say that?

Hahaha idk....

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[IPulseZz]

Hahaha idk....

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That's madara saying that he created zetsu lol.

 

[xcoyote]

BZ said it best,Madara is no different than Obito.
Karma is a b!tch.

 

[Angelic.]

thats madara saying he created bz. not bz saying that

 

[Dantee]

It happened just as I said it would except the zetsu part.

 

[Char Aznable]

Wow, Mighty Mad Money Manic Master Madness Max Melee Madara was solo'ed by Black Zetsu and trolled by Kaguya.

 

[RikudouMadara]

That's madara saying that he created zetsu lol.

Oh....lol I truly thought it was BZ saying it....it went along with the whole betrayal thing for me.... My apologies you are correct. _@:

 

[IPulseZz]

If he wasn't manipulated I guess he's just dumb.

Meh, hopefully madara does something, we all know he has the knowledge and skills to do literally anything. Hopefully he has a technique to counter was BZ is doing.