Why are people on this based so stupid

[Thundercles]

I read a post on the hottest thread of the weak and the guy who made the thread was talking about itachi. He made a lot of good points and was speaking the truth for the most part. But back to the topic people on the base just believe what they want and not what they read. First off the itachi vs jman thread is an example of how stupid people on the base are. Everyone should know jman sucks at genjutsu but they still they jmam is stronger or can beat him just cuz itachi lied to kisame and didn't fight jirayai. Now even tho he did flee it was stated in the manga that everything he did was ultimately for sasuke and the good of the leaf village. So how does a person who sucks at something like genjutsu beat the beast genjutsu user in the series? To answer that question he can't. Next the hashirama vs hiruzen debate is even worst. It was already stated that hiruzen was the strongest hokage that the leaf village ever had. It was never stated or even hinted that hashirama was stronger, actually after the manga says hiruzen was the strongest kage kishimoto has hiruzen not only beat hashirama( he beat him no matter what anyone says) but his brother also. Finally this isn't as major as the other 2 topics but hanzo gets no love on this base. He was soooo strong that the sannin got famous just cuz he let them live. Honestly that is one of the most impressive feats we have seen in naruto yet but people still underrated him but in all honesty if he's stronger thanthe sannins in there prime then he is a top 10 ninja all time definitely. So smarten up naruto base don't go on what you feel or believe go by what kishimoto has given us. What kishimoto has given us is itachi is a genjutsu master and jirayai sucks at genjutsu. What kishimoto has given us is hiruzen as the strongest hokage and he defeat both of his sensei's. So people quit making up stuff.

*sigh* Do you have any concrete proof that Itachi lied to Kisame? No. Itachi said they would kill each other.. Not that Jman would win. So get the facts right. Jman wouldnt get caught in a genjutsu like that. He is (as he put it) "A goddamn sage!" Now, while I cannot find an argument against Hiruzen/Hashirama strength, I will say this: He solo'd BOTH Madara and the Nine tails. That must mean something. Also, the 1st Hokage and the 2nd Hokage that fought Hiruzen, weren't the same as if they were free to do what they wanted. That is like saying a Kabuto controlled Madara is the same as a Madara with free-will. It isn't. But there is a plot-hole in the story and I think it is the reason why people argue Hiruzen/Hashi's strength. On one hand, it is said Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage ever. On the other, Madara says that Hashirama is the strongest shinobi ever. So bad on you, Kishi.

 

[Thundercles]

I read a post on the hottest thread of the weak and the guy who made the thread was talking about itachi. He made a lot of good points and was speaking the truth for the most part. But back to the topic people on the base just believe what they want and not what they read. First off the itachi vs jman thread is an example of how stupid people on the base are. Everyone should know jman sucks at genjutsu but they still they jmam is stronger or can beat him just cuz itachi lied to kisame and didn't fight jirayai. Now even tho he did flee it was stated in the manga that everything he did was ultimately for sasuke and the good of the leaf village. So how does a person who sucks at something like genjutsu beat the beast genjutsu user in the series? To answer that question he can't. Next the hashirama vs hiruzen debate is even worst. It was already stated that hiruzen was the strongest hokage that the leaf village ever had. It was never stated or even hinted that hashirama was stronger, actually after the manga says hiruzen was the strongest kage kishimoto has hiruzen not only beat hashirama( he beat him no matter what anyone says) but his brother also. Finally this isn't as major as the other 2 topics but hanzo gets no love on this base. He was soooo strong that the sannin got famous just cuz he let them live. Honestly that is one of the most impressive feats we have seen in naruto yet but people still underrated him but in all honesty if he's stronger thanthe sannins in there prime then he is a top 10 ninja all time definitely. So smarten up naruto base don't go on what you feel or believe go by what kishimoto has given us. What kishimoto has given us is itachi is a genjutsu master and jirayai sucks at genjutsu. What kishimoto has given us is hiruzen as the strongest hokage and he defeat both of his sensei's. So people quit making up stuff.

*sigh* Do you have any concrete proof that Itachi lied to Kisame? No. Itachi said they would kill each other.. Not that Jman would win. So get the facts right. Jman wouldnt get caught in a genjutsu like that. He is (as he put it) "A goddamn sage!" Now, while I cannot find an argument against Hiruzen/Hashirama strength, I will say this: He solo'd BOTH Madara and the Nine tails. That must mean something. Also, the 1st Hokage and the 2nd Hokage that fought Hiruzen, weren't the same as if they were free to do what they wanted. That is like saying a Kabuto controlled Madara is the same as a Madara with free-will. It isn't. But there is a plot-hole in the story and I think it is the reason why people argue Hiruzen/Hashi's strength. On one hand, it is said Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage ever. On the other, Madara says that Hashirama is the strongest shinobi ever. So bad on you, Kishi.

 

[Thundercles]

Not sure why it double posted...stupid internet.

 

[sage22]

*sigh* Do you have any concrete proof that Itachi lied to Kisame? No. Itachi said they would kill each other.. Not that Jman would win. So get the facts right. Jman wouldnt get caught in a genjutsu like that. He is (as he put it) "A goddamn sage!" Now, while I cannot find an argument against Hiruzen/Hashirama strength, I will say this: He solo'd BOTH Madara and the Nine tails. That must mean something. Also, the 1st Hokage and the 2nd Hokage that fought Hiruzen, weren't the same as if they were free to do what they wanted. That is like saying a Kabuto controlled Madara is the same as a Madara with free-will. It isn't. But there is a plot-hole in the story and I think it is the reason why people argue Hiruzen/Hashi's strength. On one hand, it is said Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage ever. On the other, Madara says that Hashirama is the strongest shinobi ever. So bad on you, Kishi.

Madara didn't fight hiruzen tho. Also when madara said hashirama was the strongest shinobi that was during the time that they were fighting each other and not the whole time from then until now. Iruka statement says that hiruzen was the strongest shinobi the village ever had the hiruzen corrects him and tell him not to talk about him he's still the strongest.

 

[BerserkEdge]

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[Kira was Righteous]

Perhaps hes a troll and the title was on purpose

Oh well

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[Champ]

I read everything and the only thing I agreed on was the Itachi lied to Kisame part so they wouldn't kill Jiraiya

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

*Reads the title*

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Exactly what I'm doing now, seee yaaa

 

[GiantShuriken]

Actually the proof that Itachi > Jiraiya is that Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than he is, and Orochimaru seems to be about equal to or better than Jiraiya.

As for Hiruzen/Hashirama. In part 1, Hiruzen was supposed to be the strongest ever Kage. But I think Kishi decided to change his mind in Shippuden and decided Hashirama will be the strongest ever Kage to build up the Madara/Hashirama Uchiha/Senju ultimate rivalry which he came up with during Shippuden to build up the inevitable Naruto/Sasuke fight.

and lol @ the title

 

[KidGamer65]

If your going to make a thread on how people are stupid, at least correct grammar, its NarutoBASE not NarutoBASED.

 

[Supernova1238]

*Reads the title*

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Couldnt have said it better myself

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Calm down sheeesh.

 

[sage22]

Actually the proof that Itachi > Jiraiya is that Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than he is, and Orochimaru seems to be about equal to or better than Jiraiya.

As for Hiruzen/Hashirama. In part 1, Hiruzen was supposed to be the strongest ever Kage. But I think Kishi decided to change his mind in Shippuden and decided Hashirama will be the strongest ever Kage to build up the Madara/Hashirama Uchiha/Senju ultimate rivalry which he came up with during Shippuden to build up the inevitable Naruto/Sasuke fight.

and lol @ the title

But it was never stated or hinted that hashirama could be stronger. Yes in part 2 hashirama hype was increased but it still doesn't say hes stronger than hiruzen.

 

[GiantShuriken]

Hashirama was clearly moved up a power tier from part one to part two. So yes, NOW he is stronger than Hiruzen. Its a plot hole. They built up Madara/Hashirama as pretty much the best shinobi ever after the SO6P.

 

[kit]

Sort of not what I expected when opening this thread. I thought you were going to bring to light all the useless threads that have been spammed as of late. It keeps getting harder and harder to find interesting threads to post in that are not just troll threads or obvious baiting for hottest thread.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

I feel u but I already made a thread similar to this like last week dude get ya on shit lol