Why are Madara's rinnengans different?

[davidou]

The 9 tomoes sharingan is the original rinnengan (9 tomoes and 4 circles) , Kaguya's 3rd eye , Juubi's single eye.

Why does Madara's rinnengans are different?Even on Nagato and Obito.

Is there a link between naruto's back (4 circles and a point and 9 separated tomoes) , Madara's rinnengan (4 circles and an iris) and Sasuke's tomoed rinnengan (4 circles , an iris and 9 tomoes)?

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Meaning that Madara rinnengans were incomplete , they lack the tomoes.
The powers of Madara's rinnengans are more Yin type.
Madara's eyes are like the symbol on Hagoromo's forehead.

Is there a link between circles and tomoes , and Yin and Yang?

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Madara didn't steal Hashirama enough Yang power to awake the full rinnengan?

 

[Wolfus]

What I don't understand is that rikudou had the same rinnegan as madara. Rikudou himself, as we saw it.

So, why does sasuke's rinnegan look like that? Is it's power greater? And why the hell did he achieve it only in one eye?

 

[esenn1]

Madara's are mutations. the real Rinnegan is the one Jubbi (and now Sasuke) has

 

[Rinianne]

Only time will tell...

 

[EVlL]

What I don't understand is that rikudou had the same rinnegan as madara. Rikudou himself, as we saw it.

So, why does sasuke's rinnegan look like that? Is it's power greater? And why the hell did he achieve it only in one eye?

yes. that's the problem. madara's are just like hagoromo's

and if you consider sasuke's eye is the same as kaguya's, it means his is not rinnegan cz on the manga, its said that kaguya possessed sharingan (not rinnegan)

we havent seen it colored yet. so we gotta wait

 

[davidou]

What I don't understand is that rikudou had the same rinnegan as madara.

Yep and that's interesting , I should have named the thread "why are Madara's and Hagoromo's rinnengans different?"

Madara's are mutations.

Yep and Sasuke's too , where you wanna go with that?
You are not helping at all.

the real Rinnegan is the one Jubbi (and now Sasuke) has

Did you even read the 1st half of the 1st phrase of the thread?

 

[Shinato]

Sasuke got the eye of the Juubi and Kaguya. The eye of the very being said to be a lot stronger than even Hagoromo himself. The being that ended world wars for a short period using her powers. This is no doubt the real eye that the Rinnegan was created from and the Sharingan was created from the Rinnegan again. Its highly likely that Sasuke's new eyes posses powers that are far above that of the standard Rinnegan.

 

[davidou]

yes. that's the problem. madara's are just like hagoromo's

and if you consider sasuke's eye is the same as kaguya's, it means his is not rinnegan cz on the manga, its said that kaguya possessed sharingan (not rinnegan)

we havent seen it colored yet. so we gotta wait

Madara is stating that Sasuke's eye is a rinnengan , Hagoromo said that this eye have sharingan's powers , not that this eye is a sharingan...I'm joking.

Most probably:
Sasuke's rinnengan ( Kaguya's , Juubi's )=ultimate sharingan.
Madara's and Hagoromo's rinnengan = not perfect but great sharingan.


Why are Madara's and Hago's rinnengans not perfect?

 

[Shinato]

Why are Madara's and Hago's rinnengans not perfect?

Kaguya had the real Sharingan, and she most likely had a husband which didn't have the eye. Beacuse of this, her sons didn't become purebloods of her blood and thus only received a fraction of her power. The Rinnegan is nothing but a weaker version of the ultimate Sharingan that Kaguya had.

 

[Namikun]

It's a combination of the sharingan and rinnegan

 

[davidou]

Sasuke got the eye of the Juubi and Kaguya. The eye of the very being said to be a lot stronger than even Hagoromo himself. The being that ended world wars for a short period using her powers. This is no doubt the real eye that the Rinnegan was created from and the Sharingan was created from the Rinnegan again. Its highly likely that Sasuke's new eyes posses powers that are far above that of the standard Rinnegan.

You are great but I also read the manga , and that doesn't reply to the thread.
Thanks for posting your "huge knowledge" here.
I liked when you said rinnengan>rinnengan.

 

[Klue]

yes. that's the problem. madara's are just like hagoromo's

and if you consider sasuke's eye is the same as kaguya's, it means his is not rinnegan cz on the manga, its said that kaguya possessed sharingan (not rinnegan)

we havent seen it colored yet. so we gotta wait

Still amazes me that so many people misread that. Hagoromo did not call Kaguya's eye the Sharingan, he stated that she possessed the Sharingan's power.

Big difference.

 

[davidou]

Kaguya had the real Sharingan, and she most likely had a husband which didn't have the eye. Beacuse of this, her sons didn't become purebloods of her blood and thus only received a fraction of her power. The Rinnegan is nothing but a weaker version of the ultimate Sharingan that Kaguya had.

the real sharingan , the rinnengan , the standard rinnengan , the ultimate sharingan...You're lost.

You want to make us think that it's clear for you but ,
You are so lost my friend.

3rd time:Why are Madara's and Hago's eyes different?
And don't say me a 3rd time :cause it's like that.

It's a combination of the sharingan and rinnegan

Huge knowledge again , but that is completely irrelevant to the thread.
Be clear cause you said :rinnengan=sharingan+rinnengan.Isn't that funny?

 

[KLhunter]

I not understand, why people said Madara & SOP has incomplete rinnegan just due Sasuke new eyes reveal.. pls bared in you mind Madara & SOP has Naruto + Sasuke power in one body... Sasuke only has part or half SOP power & how come Sasuke eyes was complete rinnegan?

I believe Sasuke has final version of Sharingan same as Juubi eyes.

 

[davidou]

I not understand, why people said Madara & SOP has incomplete rinnegan just due Sasuke new eyes reveal.. pls bared in you mind Madara & SOP has Naruto + Sasuke power in one body... Sasuke only has part or half SOP power & how come Sasuke eyes was complete rinnegan?

I believe Sasuke has final version of Sharingan same as Juubi eyes.

Why Madara is happy when he got this ulmate sharingan's power if it is < than his rinnengan?

Kaguya's eye , Juubi's eye , seem to be a lot more powerfull than Madara's rinnengans.
Madara's eyes lack tomoes , that's why it seems like Madara have "incomplete" rinnengans.
Disappear of the tomoes could be an evolution , their awakened could be an evolution too.



Why did Madara called Sasuke's eye a rinnengan?Translation mistake?


Ok , that wasn't the point of the thread , but now if you are right (it's possible) , why did Madara awakened different eyes (stronger or weaker , we don't really care) than Sasuke?