Why are beliefs such a big deal to people?

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One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is that people seem to be very assertive with trying to tell someone their religious or non-religious beliefs are wrong and I'm failing to understand why do people care that damn much?

I see Christians getting attacked by Atheist being called idiots and etc then I see Christians attacking Atheist telling them that they're going to hell but does it really matter that someone is religious to you or not? Is it that serious that you have to have long debates on a deity that neither of you have any proof exist or not? I mean feel free to explain why you have to beliefs you have but when you're name calling and thinking that you've reached some level of superiority because of a belief then I'm questioning you.

Why does it matter if someone is Christian? Atheist? Muslim? Jewish? Or even a damn Satanist? Why does that matter?

Why do you even feel the need to tell people "Haha, you're wrong! My belief is better! I'm smarter than youuuuuu".... :|

Do people not feel how childish and hypocritical that is?

Ex: I always see Atheist sitting around complaining about religious people shoving their religious beliefs down their throats and how so much better life would be without it but then they turn around to hop on anything that has to do with religion and shove their views done religious people's throat? But yall hate bible thumping religious people who shove their beliefs down your throat? Riiiiiiiiiiight

"I love God :D "
"God isn't you real, you goddamn idiot"
"........"

Ex: Religious people stay talking about how Atheist are stupid for not believing and how they will be in eternal hell and talking about some "Only God can judge :D " but then stay judging non-religious people and condemning them to hell while also being a hypocrite when just the other day yall were sucking d-ck and went to kiss your kids before you even brushed your teeth but in church by 9 asking the lord for forgiveness but you out here telling non-religious they going to hell? You sure you won't be sitting with them, fam?

Please do take note that I'm not saying all Atheist or All religious people are like this but I am talking about the ones who are no better than each other but stay in each other ass. If you aren't this person then know I am not talking about you. So no... Not all but I am speaking on the people who do this type of sh-t

My point is... Stop worrying about what other people believe in and stop trying to condemn people for what they believe in. If Bob is an Atheist and you're Muslim then what? Nothing because Bob can believe what he wants. If Amy is Jewish and you are an Atheist then what? Nothing because Amy can believe what she wants. If Bob and Amy are fighting about beliefs and are being a d-cks then what are Bob and Amy? Both are complete d-cks :)

Believe what you want but don't go around thinking you're better than people or going around trying to condemn everyone. If you are the type of person to do what I talked about above then....:

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The world would be a much better place if people would just mind their own damn business sometimes. :ilu:
 

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After reading your thread I realized that most of humans are d-cks XD.

On the serious note, I do agree with you. Everyone is responsible for his own deeds. By adopting give respect, take respect principle people can live more enjoyable life.
 

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Some people, i.e. me, simply enjoy debating.

You also have the small fact that beliefs is what govern what we see as reality, which will affect other people, and the fact that as being with the ability to think critically, beliefs must be challenged to establish "truth."

Challenging beliefs is what led to rights for people in America who were more than just white men. Imagine if all the people who challenged racist views said "Why don't you just mind your own business and let people believe what they want to believe."
 

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Some people, i.e. me, simply enjoy debating.

You also have the small fact that beliefs is what govern what we see as reality, which will affect other people, and the fact that as being with the ability to think critically, beliefs must be challenged to establish "truth."

Challenging beliefs is what led to rights for people in America who were more than just white men. Imagine if all the people who challenged racist views said "Why don't you just mind your own business and let people believe what they want to believe."
But I'm not talking about merely debating. I even said feel free to express why you have the beliefs you do but do it in a respectful manner. Your delivery goes a long way but when you are condemning someone for having a different belief than you then you are wrong. I see too many "debates" on religion that are just full of both sides being arrogant and thinking their way is the right way rather being like:

"This is my belief and this is why"
'This is your belief and this is why I think it is wrong"

but you get :
" You are stupid ignorant religious fool if you believe this. This why religion is trash and I can't stand it because it makes this world sh-t!!!! Hur dur!"

"You're just a damn fool who will rot in hell with Satan like you rightfully deserve. Not believing? Ha, the bible gives me all proof I need! Hur dur!"

The base is guilty of above debates ^

:|
It's just ignorant person vs ignorant person
 

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After reading your thread I realized that most of humans are d-cks XD.

On the serious note, I do agree with you. Everyone is responsible for his own deeds. By adopting give respect, take respect principle people can live more enjoyable life.
Well to narrow it down people are people. We all seek conflict one way or another and one of the easiest ways to do that is use beliefs & people being on "different pages" as fuel for fire.
And you are 100% right--the problem is getting people to do that. You get one person to do that but another doesn't he/she gets wrecked. Then you go to step 2 & that's will & endurance. That's another tricky one.

"You're just a damn fool who will rot in hell with Satan like you rightfully deserve. Not believing? Ha, the bible gives me all proof I need! Hur dur!"

What makes this such a BIG mistake for Christians is that Salvation isn't a matter of "join us or go to hell"--it's meant as a warning to a lost soul's final destination if he/she continues down their path & an offering for the one and only way out. The main focus on Salvation through Christianity is that people are doomed to go to hell as sinners and a human being by ourselves cannot change it as we are sinful people. So we were given a sacrifice (Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins) that finally created an option for people to come to salvation from our final destination & seek forgiveness for our past deeds. It's not FOLLOW ME OR BURN IN HELL it's "hey, this is what's heading your way, but you've been given a way out & a means to seek forgiveness--this is your choice & I'm here to help [as a guide not a dictator]"

There are a lot of people who use religion/atheism as an excuse to hear themselves speak & cause other people trouble. Some of them even people who "call themselves Christians"

It's based on free will not criticism or US providing damnation. None of us can save a soul or condem it to hell because we are sinful and imperfect beings--that's God's call.
 
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It's because human stupidity is an eyesore that atheists call religious folks out on their beliefs.

But in rl I'm like this: One highly annoying Muslim friend of mine kept trying to shove his dumbass religious logic in my face, and every time I cut him off with simple logic. Meanwhile, me and other friends realized he has many, many, many bad characteristics to his personality. A Christian friend of mine is severely indoctrinated by his parents and often talks god. But because of the fact he's one of the most selfless, honest and friendly individuals I know, I never ever try to argue his beliefs.

Now, let me just quickly add that I have other Muslim friends who, in the 12 years that we've been friends, he hasn't bugged me with his beliefs, ever. Not once.

So, basically; in real life; as long as you keep your delusional beliefs to yourself and simply strive to be a good person, I will never bother arguing your faith. That is how most atheists work. And that is what religious nuts refuse to point out because they like to play the "offended" card when after an ignorant rant their argument gets smacked down with simple logic, apparently making atheists the hostile one. Which is a flawed argument at that as though an atheist doesn't have that systematically imbued sense of pride and duty that the general religious nut has, they don't have a reason to get hostile.
 

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Do realize that at some point in time, religion becomes someone's tool to control the masses. It no longer serves its original purpose which is "be mindful of others as they are you"

Atheists use this as an argument, completely overlooking the fact that religion isnt about ignorant thinking. This mentality of atheists often lead to egoism and arrogance.

Basically theyre in the same boat arguing which one is better rather than acting the better person/people.

Laws are derived from moral standards of society which is from religious guide lines. They bicker whether its factual or fictional. The lesson still remains that you shouldnt be a c u n t.

Which one is better? The one that makes you a better person, not towards other people, but to those you affect as well (living things in general).

Respect.
 

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I think it's the fact that a religious person can be at fault of thinking that he/they have a monopoly on truth, that ticks off atheists- which are of two kinds, one is the group that simply want to feel better(superior in comparison) and other is the one who can't find christianity reasonable, I say christianity because a lot of people only consider it, decide they know all religion and take up atheism and the bad thing is that they will criticize all religion out of aversion towards offending any other religions folk, and the fact that they don't have to provide any valid proof to back their words that way. Whatever in the end truth is truth, say true things and you describe it, say false things and you deny it, in both cases the Truth remains constant- unless your religious and atheist person understand that all their arguments are gonna turn into a battle and not exchange of views to understand something that is greater then both of them, especially if you're going into a debate with prejudice.

p.s: A lot of time what these people term as religion is something they aren't even remotely capable of comprehending, and when they talk about the word 'religion' it's no different then 9yr olds talking about quantum physics and how newton was a fool. The knowledge base, that's what they lack.
 

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because they depend on it they just can't live knowing there's no afterlife.
So that suddenly gives you the right to think you're automatically better than any religious person and to bash religious people? Last time I checked neither of you know 100% on what the f-ck you're talking about but still believe you do.

If you can prove to me that no life after death is certain then I will shut up. Mind you I'm not arguing it does because I'm pretty damn sure it doesn't but I'm not going around making claims, fam cause why? I don't know

Why do you care about them caring?
It's not more of caring. It's me questioning people specifically Atheist who claim to be all about equality and hate people who shove their opinions down others throats but then turn around to act like arrogant *******s because "hur dur, I don't believe anything"

It's seems like a question that's not being widely questioned within the Atheist community and when you do it's usually a bunch of atheist making excuses for why some Atheist act they way do.

"Well we just cant stand seeing people believe in a sky daddy"

Yeah, well I'm pretty sure people can't stand to see yall believe in nothing but you wouldn't dare defend them if they started bashing Atheist.

Problem is.... Atheist does not cure retardation.

It's because human stupidity is an eyesore that atheists call religious folks out on their beliefs.

But in rl I'm like this: One highly annoying Muslim friend of mine kept trying to shove his dumbass religious logic in my face, and every time I cut him off with simple logic. Meanwhile, me and other friends realized he has many, many, many bad characteristics to his personality. A Christian friend of mine is severely indoctrinated by his parents and often talks god. But because of the fact he's one of the most selfless, honest and friendly individuals I know, I never ever try to argue his beliefs.

Now, let me just quickly add that I have other Muslim friends who, in the 12 years that we've been friends, he hasn't bugged me with his beliefs, ever. Not once.

So, basically; in real life; as long as you keep your delusional beliefs to yourself and simply strive to be a good person, I will never bother arguing your faith. That is how most atheists work. And that is what religious nuts refuse to point out because they like to play the "offended" card when after an ignorant rant their argument gets smacked down with simple logic, apparently making atheists the hostile one. Which is a flawed argument at that as though an atheist doesn't have that systematically imbued sense of pride and duty that the general religious nut has, they don't have a reason to get hostile.
Mhm, I see all that but I got one question for you. Where is YOUR proof that a God doesn't exist?

I don't want a mini book on why religions "facts" are BS because I can agree or about evolution but I will ask where is your proof a God not existing?
 
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