Why Anyone Failed to Understand Madara and his power

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

He is said strongest Uchiha back then but not after his time over.. Shishui have more special eye then him. Itachi granted illusion sword and mirror upon it. Obito can use space time Kamui. The only EMS user Sasuke and Madara but after both get Rinnegan power up 6tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke outclass Madara Rinnegan.

Madara is a failure he has no Sage qualities on him, hack kaguya even playing toys with him Black Zetsu is the one who doing all power up inside him. He has no connection to Otsutsuki family or prestige near to god tiers Kaguya, Hagoromo or Hamura. We know that he is Indra descendant which Black Zetsu Kaguya third child are using to complete Kaguya revival plan, without Black Zetsu there is no Madara or 4th war or Uchiha going rouge even didnt exist and we don't even know Madara. No wonder his plan to be 2th fake Hagoromo is a failed, Madara nowhere to get Hagoromo approval for success power up but all Hagoromo power is belong to the rightful person in lineage which is Sasuke and Naruto.

Orochimaru was a better villain with good motive than this entire uchiha clown.

Here is Kaguya family power linage analogy

Kaguya -> Hagoromo + Hamura + Juubi
first child Hagoromo -> Uchiha/Indra/Sasuke + Senju/Ashura/Naruto
second child Hamura -> Otsutsuki/Toneri + Hyuuga/Hinata
third child Black Zetsu - > Zetsus Army/Gedou Mezo/Madara

The reason why madara still alive to battle is because BZ own him just like he own Obito life. His place as the Uchiha/Indra descendant has fall right after Sasuke after his death fighting Hashirama. This is what happen when he play with life and death to the wrong person.

conclusion

Madara cant be more powerful than Naruto and Sasuke because he is Not Hagoromo choice for to his power. Madara is just Indra descendant that die and used by black zetsu to achieve Moon eye plan. His power cant acceded the true wilder for Sages power who the sages choose for himself = Naruto+Sasuke.

 

[Yanks]

He actually managed to kill Sasuke and Naruto though
Name any other villain that did that

 

[Xlad]

No idea what the **** you're talking about.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

He actually managed to kill Sasuke and Naruto though
Name any other villain that did that

At time as fake Hagoromo wannabe yes. but Rikudou naruto or 6 tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke solos JJ Rikudo Madara really easy.

No idea what the **** you're talking about.

it just grammar i hope you understand the content

 

[Yanks]

At time as fake Hagoromo wannabe yes. but Rikudou naruto or 6 tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke solos JJ Rikudo Madara really easy.

Didn't really answer my question, but sure

 

[Omar19992010]

Last time I checked Madara was the only Villain to achieve his goals, Kill the two Main Characters and he didn't get defeated by any of the Main Characters.

 

[Angelic.]

hey, he had to eat man meat to get where he is! worship him!

bz solo

 

[The Necromancer]

He actually managed to kill Sasuke and Naruto though
Name any other villain that did that

Almost killed.

Don't know why people still think he actually killed them.

 

[Conspirator.]

Last time I checked Madara was the only Villain to achieve his goals, Kill the two Main Characters and he didn't get defeated by any of the Main Characters.

But his "goal" was world peace. IT was just a method to achieve that goal, and that ended up being one gigantic lie, did it not?

 

[Omar19992010]

But his "goal" was world peace. IT was just a method to achieve that goal, and that ended up being one gigantic lie, did it not?

It wasn't really a lie? IT can be used for a number of different purposes. Some for Peace while others are just plain out Messed up.

Kaguya wanted to create an Army
Madara wanted to take back Chakra
Obito wanted to put himself along with everybody else in a Dream world

The only thing Madara didn't know about was everybody turning into WZ.

 

[The Necromancer]

It wasn't really a lie? IT can be used for a number of different purposes. Some for Peace while others are just plain out Messed up.

Kaguya wanted to create an Army
Madara wanted to take back Chakra
Obito wanted to put himself along with everybody else in a Dream world

The only thing Madara didn't know about was everybody turning into WZ.

Wrong. Madara wanted world peace. You need to reread that section of the manga.

 

[Omar19992010]

Wrong. Madara wanted world peace. You need to reread that section of the manga.

Read chapter 665 I think. He said it himself he was going to have the most powerful Chakra and he will be the only Source of Chakra. Hagoromo confirmed it in 671 where he said Madara's purpose for IT was to recollect Chakra so the Shinju fruit will bloom.

 

[Ambivalence]

This is such BS. Hagoromo not choosing Madara for his power doesn't change the fact that he's the 3rd strongest in the NV, 2nd if you don't count Prime JJ Hagoromo. You've got no facts backing up your claim that Naruto and Sasuke are stronger. If you do, go ahead and show me.

Unrestricted by plot Madara stomps.

Also, Hinata really has no place among all the names you've listed. It just seems insulting for her to be in the same section as the true top tiers.

 

[The Necromancer]

Read chapter 665 I think. He said it himself he was going to have the most powerful Chakra and he will be the only Source. Hagoromo confirmed it in 671 where he said Madara's purpose for IT was recollect Chakra and eat the Shinju fruit.

So that he can have world peace. U_U

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[Conspirator.]

It wasn't really a lie? IT can be used for a number of different purposes. Some for Peace while others are just plain out Messed up.

Kaguya wanted to create an Army
Madara wanted to take back Chakra
Obito wanted to put himself along with everybody else in a Dream world

The only thing Madara didn't know about was everybody turning into WZ.

And that's exactly why Madara's "master plan", IT, was a big fat lie and a failure. It's why he admitted on his deathbed that Hashirama's method of peace was superior, as it still live on.(and was shown in the Epilogue). Madara wanted world peace, but his plan was a failure.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Shoots fired.

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

Then explain why Sasuke or Naruto solos Madara when they receive Hagoromo power up.

 

[Ansatsuken]

You always made failed Threads OP, U_U

 

[Kirin The Dragon Sage]

You always made failed Threads OP, U_U

No answer me

 

[Ansatsuken]

No answer me

You knew that he attained Kaguya level of power above of hagoromo.

Look at this, he is not just a Juubi jin, but also gaining Kaguya special trait that is 9 Tomoe Sharingan.

And then he is retired from the manga by Kishi, I ask you this, if Kishi continue that plot with Madara and not kaguya, will you doubting that full potential 3 eyes Madara will rekt Naruto and Sasuke even harder than Kaguya?

Answer me with your sincere answer, and not being biased.