Who's the strongest in the New Generation

[Vulpini]

Based off on what we've seen so far: Boruto got defeated by Shikadai, but Boruto improved a lot by the end of the movie. We haven't seen much of Shikadai and don't know how far he can get, but it's common sense that he is strong, based on feats (that were never fully shown) and DB stats.

Boruto improved a lot and Shikadai is already on a great level even though he didn't show much. Right now, I'd place both on the same tier.

Sarada won all her fights with a single punch, took out dozens of enemies whom had MS and did great throughtout the entire exams (A+ at all tests). DB stated that she is top 3 in every category + she is confident on her skills and is the third smartest kid, only losing to Shikadai and Mitsuki.

Mitsuki is also top 3 in everything + OP stretching technique + Snake SM (currently, he can't maintain it for more than one minute, but that's just enough).

Shinki, we don't know much about him but he has displayed awesome feats. In a fight against Sarada, I think she would win. Sakura vs. Sasori all over again, but this time Sarada has a Sharingan and a few more tricks with her other skills.

 

[lndra]

That's not how it's based on though. Plus, Sarada's only match in the Chunin Exams revolved around a nameless fodder.

You can argue that Boruto improved in the latter parts of the Movie, but that too isn't really what I'm going for. It all ties back to what they have in their skill-set.

Boruto has his Rasengan/variant, and his shadow clones. In each fight he either mainly relied on his clones, or neither (mostly the KOTE tool).

Sarada's strong no doubt, but all she has is CES and Sharingan. When it comes to factoring the debate itself through stats - Strength, Dexterity, and Chakra are the important factors. Boruto and Sarada's chakra stats are not that far off, and she's far stronger (physical strength).

However, Boruto's way faster than she is. That primarily decides the match there when she uses close quarters to fight, because she needs to be faster or more skilled than her opponent to land the hit.

The same rules applies to why Mitsuki isn't losing to any of these kids because once he turns on his Sage Mode, no one is catching him, and he's going to attack them with a blitz.

And the only reason why Shikidai remains in top class is because he has a jutsu which stops opponents who focus on CQC, which in mainly Boruto/Sarada. The only reason he edges out is because of the Rasengan.

But these factors are still early in and are expected to change as time moves forward.

 

[Melanin]

It is not about elaborating on the reasons, it's about talking about the misconceptions of post itself when it comes to the training.

You said:


Unless I'm mistaken, you used the argument that she did not need to be trained to pass the exams, in contrast to Boruto wanting to be trained.

You are mistaken, you created that point out of dust. I never compared or contrasted the reasons behind Sarada not needing direct training from Sasuke to succeed at the task infront of her too Boruto receiving training from Sasuke. The only misconception here is your misinterpretion of clear points that aren't so complexed to get confused. I never even touched the subject of why Sasuke trained Boruto or why Boruto wanted to be trained, those are things your interjecting that I've never gave a thought on anything related.

Again: Sarada didn't need direct training from Sasuke or anyone to succeed in the exams (as you saw). Boruto & Sasuke being his master is a totally different topic that I have compared or contrasted to my opinion of Sarada.

What I said was that it does not matter whether who was being trained by Sasuke or not, because neither shinobi wanted training for the Chunin Exams.

> Hence the point.

What I said was that Sarada was strong enough to compete and excel without any additional trying that could've came for Sasuke.

> You have no point, just a objection and you can have that.

Honestly I don't even know why I even bother. Neither of us were talking about Sarada being stronger as a 'contributing factor' to anything. Not really sure why you brought that up in the first place. And I know for a fact I never commented on why Sasuke accepted him as a student either. So I'm kind of confused on why you tried to misplace the judgement here as if I was bringing 'alternative facts' here -- No.

Let me wrap it for you.,

This is the comment you initially responded with.,

Spoiler

I never understood how this made sense either.


Completely incorrect.

Boruto wanted training from Sarada's father because he wanted to learn about his father's weak points, in order to take him down.

Don't accuse people of making up accusations of showing that Boruto is stronger because Sasuke picked him, and using the same reverse psychology because Boruto wanted Sasuke's help, due to him being Naruto's rival ("There's someone I have to defeat, no matter what!").

Regardless both sides are petty, lol.

Here's the comment you responded too.,

Spoiler

Yea a lot of people wanna make the fact hat Sasuke trained Boruto and not Sarada during the movie as a total dismissal of her ability & potential, when in actuality she didn't really need to be trained to pass the exams and she was ahead or stronger then Boruto.

Never did I once touch the subject of the influences or motivations behind Sasuke & Borutos student-teacher relationship, that was something you attached the discussion that threw shit off.

Simply I was agreeing with you said earlier above about the fan's accusations on whether or not who is stronger because of Sasuke's opinion. I thought, like you, it was completely a false way of thinking.

Second of all, I tackled your argument below which was just false and full of misconceptions. I explained it above, though.

Lastly, I accused you of calling out of people who have a screwed way of thinking and doing the exact same thing in the second point.

Ok let's be friends.

 

[lndra]

You are mistaken, you created that point out of dust. I never compared or contrasted the reasons behind Sarada not needing direct training from Sasuke to succeed at the task infront of her too Boruto receiving training from Sasuke. The only misconception here is your misinterpretion of clear points that aren't so complexed to get confused. I never even touched the subject of why Sasuke trained Boruto or why Boruto wanted to be trained, those are things your interjecting that I've never gave a thought on anything related.

How do I create a point out of dust when that's what you were talking about? Your point in detail talks about how people are interjecting their opinions because Sasuke is training Boruto, and you reply with their accusations by saying that Sarada was strong already at this point, and didn't need training for the Chunin Exams.

I replied to you in that regard because they were both on the same standing via mentality. Neither Boruto or Sarada were looking for training for the Exams, and I explained on that part so that you can understand my point (via why Boruto wanted training).

Again: Sarada didn't need direct training from Sasuke or anyone to succeed in the exams (as you saw). Boruto & Sasuke being his master is a totally different topic that I have compared or contrasted to my opinion of Sarada.

The thing is Rasta, I said I agreed with you. I think we are misunderstanding each other somewhere along the lines.

What I said was that Sarada was strong enough to compete and excel without any additional trying that could've came for Sasuke.

> You have no point, just a objection and you can have that.

That's exactly the point I was arguing mate. You said Sarada was strong enough without training for the examinations and far superior to Boruto based on those thoughts. All I said was that neither shinobi were looking for training for the Exams specifically, and that the superiority based your context did not make sense.

Let me wrap it for you.,

This is the comment you initially responded with.,


Here's the comment you responded too.,

I pretty much explained the reasoning for the quote on the first paragraph, it would be pointless to repeat myself to drag this any longer than it needs to.

Never did I once touch the subject of the influences or motivations behind Sasuke & Borutos student-teacher relationship, that was something you attached the discussion that threw shit off.

I'm the one who talked about why Boruto wanted training for Sasuke, not sure why you're assuming that I accused you of doing so. I simply said that the reasoning was off. It was a combination of the posts, I think you got confused.

> You were talking about Boruto being Sasuke's student and fan's abusing that information, plus adding things about the Sarada wank.

I replied to the entirety.

Ok let's be friends.

Iight fam

 

[Vulpini]

1. Mitsuki
2. Sarada
3. Boruto/Shikadai
4. Shinki

Based off on what we've seen and all the info we got, I belive this to be the most accurate ranking. I'm sure that'll change, though.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Mitsuki
Boruto
Sarada/Shikadai
...the rest

 

[lndra]

If Sarada actually had a way to counter Shikidai's expansive shadow ability, you might be 50% right. I don't really know why people worry so much about whose stronger or not, even willing to go as far as to lie about the debate itself. You know damn well Sarada can't just beat Shikidai, because she has no way countering his expansive shadow technique - No long ranged jutsu.

And you know Boruto fleshes out more only due to his screen time being longer than the rest. I'm not stupid or cocky enough to believe such nonsense cause I know any of them can surpass the other with just a small few panels in the upcoming arc.

But I don't see why it has to be this dramatic. Sarada's powerful, the only reason why she's not #2 is because Boruto has a larger skill set and is faster, and the reason why you place her with Shikidai is because she has no strong long ranged ninjutsu like Boruto's Vanishing Rasengan.

Meaning she can't fully counter him.

1. Mitsuki beats them all.
2. Boruto is stronger than Shikidai and Sarada with their 'current feats'

I'd edge out Sarada being stronger than Shikidai but she literally has no counter for him so I can't be objective about it until later when she pulls out like a Chidori Spear and that'll be the end of the discussion.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Yea a lot of people wanna make the fact hat Sasuke trained Boruto and not Sarada during the movie as a total dismissal of her ability & potential, when in actuality she didn't really need to be trained to pass the exams and she was ahead or stronger then Boruto.

Sasuke havn't taught shit to Boruto with exception of shiruken-Itachi style techniques lol Boruto managed to developed a vanishing rasengan on his own by applying fuuton and only took him 3 days something a prodigy like Minato failed. Konohamaru was a terrible sensei, he doesn't give Boruto a proper instruction only to mumble something awkward like "ehh"
Boruto as such a young age is two steps ahead of Minato and Naruto in terms of perfecting and invention at the same time.

Sarada in the other hand was raised under Sakura this whole time, don't think that Sarada didn't train lol that's a wishful thinking coming from SasuSaku fan.

The fact that Boruto managed to do this on his own instead of being baby-spooned shows you that Boruto is a skilled shinobi. Also Kishi said iBoruto is more crafty, more mature and more refined than Naruto so really I think both Sarada and Boruto are strong in their own right.

 

[Melanin]

Sasuke havn't taught shit to Boruto with exception of shiruken-Itachi style techniques lol Boruto managed to developed a vanishing rasengan on his own by applying fuuton and only took him 3 days something a prodigy like Minato failed. Konohamaru was a terrible sensei, he doesn't give Boruto a proper instruction only to mumble something awkward like "ehh"
Boruto as such a young age is two steps ahead of Minato and Naruto in terms of perfecting and invention at the same time.

Sarada in the other hand was raised under Sakura this whole time, don't think that Sarada didn't train lol that's a wishful thinking coming from SasuSaku fan.

I never said she didn't train, I said she didn't need training at that point becuase she was already capable enough but Sarada being so well equipped is expected. Both of her parents a geniuses and are unparelled at what they do as well as being two of the strongest shinobi the leaf has produced so I would bet my bottom dollar that Sarada is a natural.

The fact that Boruto managed to do this on his own instead of being baby-spooned shows you that Boruto is a skilled shinobi. Also Kishi said iBoruto is more crafty, more mature and more refined than Naruto so really I think both Sarada and Boruto are strong in their own right.

This is wishful thinking at best, sure I'll give him the rasengan feat but someone taught him how to use his broken Jūken.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Ftm I'd say Mitsuki. :elmo:

 

[kiiro]

Looks like we are going to get very good stuff to debate again. Naruto has the most debatable material than any other anime in my opinion.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

I never said she didn't train, I said she didn't need training at that point becuase she was already capable enough but Sarada being so well equipped is expected. Both of her parents a geniuses and are unparalleled at what they do as well as being two of the strongest shinobi the leaf has produced so I would bet my bottom dollar that Sarada is a natural.

Yea she is very strong as a genin perhaps she doesn't need to train any further for such a young age, only problem is that she should learn ninjutsu to help compensate against long range user. If we're going by timeskip when she grow older, Sarada definitely needs training to keep up with others because super enhance strength and a 3-tomoe sharingan alone isn't enough to be competent as a Jounin or Hokage .
Especially when Sarada ISN'T a Medical Ninja like her mother was, according to the databook, Mitsuki is a healer. The uchiha are natural in evolving their sharingan which requires no training, so Sarada isn't any different. Sarada right now has 1 tomoe at this late but she'll manage it with experience.

SaThis is wishful thinking at best, sure I'll give him the rasengan feat but someone taught him how to use his broken Jūken.

Yet Boruto at such young age is capable of knowing where to strike their body component without the need of a Byakugan. You know without the byakugan it would render less effective because by chance you'll just be poking randomly and if Boruto is capable of mastering Jyuuken technique and his knowledge of anatomy to where he could cripple opponent, then he has great skills and talent like really, I know he has 1 one byakugan later in the future, but we're talking about what's matter now currently.
Boruto is a natural prodigy who has great expertise on his talents in knowing both Sarada speacilty for shiruken techiques and his own specialty and self taught by performing shadow clones (ofc nowhere near as Naruto quantity) despite having low chakra reserve, it's still impressive to say the least.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Sarada is a genin and fangirls think she doesn't need training lol....

 

[Tantalus Thief]

mitsuki for now

 

[Kakooli]

sarada cuz she is teh product of two geniuses.........snake boy comes 2nd because his parents are orochimaru and kabuto......

 

[Melanin]

Yea she is very strong as a genin perhaps she doesn't need to train any further for such a young age, only problem is that she should learn ninjutsu to help compensate against long range user. If we're going by timeskip when she grow older, Sarada definitely needs training to keep up with others because super enhance strength and a 3-tomoe sharingan alone isn't enough to be competent as a Jounin or Hokage

Of course she needs more training to get further, I simply said she didn't need any extra to pass the exams.

Again: That why it's a good thing she has so much promise! First off, I never said she didn't need trying anymore (overall); I said that she didn't need further training to pass the exams becuase she was already well equipped to excel (which is a fact). Secondly, I wouldn't worry about her learning any long range Justu or Jutsu period because he data profile explains her to be a know ninjutsu. If you combine that with her intellect, CC and sharnigan you get uber potential or in other words.....

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Oh yea, she masters lightening release and even implements it into her own unique Jutsu and she also becomes well equipped in the Yin Release so I'm not worried.

Especially when Sarada ISN'T a Medical Ninja like her mother was, according to the databook, Mitsuki is a healer. The uchiha are natural in evolving their sharingan which requires no training, so Sarada isn't any different. Sarada right now has 1 tomoe at this late but she'll manage it with experience.

Yea she just has CES which is a medical based Jutsu but who knows perhaps she'll have some type of healing factor to match her sharnigan that's going to devolped without a doubt.

Yet Boruto at such young age is capable of knowing where to strike their body component without the need of a Byakugan. You know without the byakugan it would render less effective because by chance you'll just be poking randomly and if Boruto is capable of mastering Jyuuken technique and his knowledge of anatomy to where he could cripple opponent, then he has great skills and talent like really, I know he has 1 one byakugan later in the future, but we're talking about what's matter now currently

While Sarada is capable of collecting chakra from throughout her body and releasing it instantly.. We already know anyone who even gets brushed with that is a goner but imagine her infusing her lighting into her CES? She just might turn people into ashes lol after she solo glances them. Anyway that's potential but she like Boruto has outstanding talent and raw potential, the only reason it's being processed so slow is becuase it might over shadow plot.

Sidenote: if she does get MS I think she'll be unbeatable but certainly one of the strongest in the manga, let us pray.

Boruto is a natural prodigy who has great expertise on his talents in knowing both Sarada speacilty for shiruken techiques

The same goes for Sarada (being a natural prodigy) and Yup, Boruto knows the deal, Sarada means business.

Your a much more logical Boruto fan then the fap who liked your post, at least you read the manga, accept facts and don't down play anything.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

:Sparks:

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Of course she needs more training to get further, I simply said she didn't need any extra to pass the exams.

Again: That why it's a good thing she has so much promise! First off, I never said she didn't need trying anymore (overall); I said that she didn't need further training to pass the exams becuase she was already well equipped to excel (which is a fact). Secondly, I wouldn't worry about her learning any long range Justu or Jutsu period because he data profile explains her to be a know ninjutsu. If you combine that with her intellect, CC and sharnigan you get uber potential or in other words.....

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Oh yea, she masters lightening release and even implements it into her own unique Jutsu and she also becomes well equipped in the Yin Release so I'm not worried.

I agree she doesn't need extra techniques to pass the exam after all she's no average shinobi when it comes to cqc I know she will learn ninjutsu but we're talking about boruto movie in chuunin exam and I am saying if she's going to stay as it is right now that would be a problematic if she had to deal with long range user during the chuunin and so forth and honestly she isn't like Sakura where she has healing capabilities and tank small to mid scale attacks.

She has good intellect and good cc plus with her sharingan she had alot of potential just like the others, honestly Konohamaru students are all strong even better than Team Kakashi. Not one of them portrayed as weak, fragile and clumsy.

Yea she just has CES which is a medical based Jutsu but who knows perhaps she'll have some type of healing factor to match her sharnigan that's going to devolped without a doubt.

I wouldn't be surprise if Sarada is going to have some sort of medical ninjutsu but as far as we know, she doesn't. The reason why I believe Kishi only intended to make mitsuki a medical ninja only due to the tribute of Kabuto.

While Sarada is capable of collecting chakra from throughout her body and releasing it instantly.. We already know anyone who even gets brushed with that is a goner but imagine her infusing her lighting into her CES? She just might turn people into ashes lol after she solo glances them. Anyway that's potential but she like Boruto has outstanding talent and raw potential, the only reason it's being processed so slow is becuase it might over shadow plot.

Sidenote: if she does get MS I think she'll be unbeatable but certainly one of the strongest in the manga, let us pray.

Yea she will brush anyone in her tier especially with infused lighting will provide extra effectiveness but then again it only happen in the game. As far as I know, the databook only explain she has Lightning Flash (Raisen) and correct me if I am wrong but when I searched that on google, it's actually a shiruken with infused lightning similar to demon wind shiruken.

I believe she will have MS simpily because if we look at the first chapter of Boruto, it seems like the era of peace is gone and something tragic happen with Boruto as if someone close to him die and he got transplanted Byakugan . Especially when the village got destroyed and implied that Naruto was dead.

The same goes for Sarada (being a natural prodigy) and Yup, Boruto knows the deal, Sarada means business.

Your a much more logical Boruto fan then the fap who liked your post, at least you read the manga, accept facts and don't down play anything.

Sarada is portrayed as a hardworker but she is also natural skilled shinobi unlike anything we've seen which kinda made Naruto, obito and the others except hashirama as a joke. Sarada has a promising start and I hope Sarada doesn't get brushed aside by the male characters overshadow her potential just like every female characters.

Anyway thanks for the compliment, I like both sarada and boruto but it's true that I am leaning more toward Boruto than Sarada and the others, but I am trying to stay as much objective as I can.

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Ftm I'd say Mitsuki. :elmo:

Can't argue with Derp. And I also agree Mitsuki is strongest. Dunno why people make an argument against it

 

[lndra]

> When "FapstaFapsta" calls you a fap but you never once made a fap thread about anyone
> When you realize that most of Rasta's threads are fap threads.

Oh boy...

Anyway good shit Hyuuga Prodigy ~