Well according to that logic then rinnegan obito is still part of akatsuki.
Actually no it wouldn't. The #1 spot can't get any higher than #1 so there's literally no difference in what form of obito you're ranking, it stays the same regardless.
-Entire akatsuki was already killed off, except Obito
-Obito no longer wore the akatsuki cloke
-Konan tells Obito akatsuki was their legacy, not Obito's, and they were done with him
Pretty sure by the time Obito put on the Rinnegan, which he got from the corpse of the akatsuki's active leader, the akatsuki was done already.
Sure buddy. Let's rank Juubito when finding out the ranking order of the akatsuki.![]()
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Stop lying, it consisted of obito, kabuto,& zetsu.
Lmfao that means nothing, so every time an akatsuki member loses their cloak they aren't part of the group anymore? Logic makes no sense.
Yahiko founded the akatsuki, then obito took it over. Konan became the defector, not obito.
Yet I give you a scan showing that the SA still refers to them as akatsuki even after obitto obtained the rinnegan, manga refers to them as akatsuki even if you don't so you're just disagreeing with the manga. & Obito was the leader, not nagato.
Tell me why it makes a difference what form of obito you use? Nobody ever says "MS Obito" when ranking him, they just mention his name. If it did matter what form was stronger then just his name wouldn't be used but rather the form that puts him in that spot. Obito, no matter the form, is at the top of the list, so the from you use to rank him is irrelevant.
Lol. Kabuto was in akatsuki now?
Um, there's a difference between taking off a cloak and abandoning it knowing the group is dead. Even Obito took the time to acknowledge they wouldn't have gotten where they are without the akatsuki after everyone was already dead, clearly indicating the group was over.
Yahiko founded it with Nagato and Konan at his side. After Yahiko died, Nagato took over. Obito then won over Nagato and said he'd call the shots.
Both Nagato and Konan, the founders, left Obito. Obito asked her why she still wears a cloak and Konan replied saying akatsuki was theirs not his. Manga fact.
What does that prove? What were they supposed to refer to them as?
Kishi has to address things from their point of view, not the point of view of the reader you know.
I guess it's just different viewpoint.
When ranking akatsuki I rank when the group was active. i find it silly to include Juubito etc.
When ranking the hokage I rank them when they were hokage. I find it silly to include DMS Kakashi, EDo BM Minato etc.
1) Obito
2) Nagato
3) Kabuto
4) Itachi
5) Kisame
6) Sasori
7) Deidara
8) Kakuzu
9) Konan
10) Zetsu
11) Hidan
At the time he was joining forces with akatsuki, he may not have been part of the core group but he was part of akatsuki just as much as sasuke was during the time he captured bee.
However that doesn't change the fact that akatsuki still existed, even without kabuto there were still two members, the original founders of the "evil" akatsuki.
Lol That doesn't clearly indicate anything, that's obito giving praise to his group, the group that he's still a part of. However this has nothing to do with the point you originally presented which was "-Obito no longer wore the akatsuki cloak". That point was absolutely worthless so don't go deflecting that to another topic.
@Bold: What does that mean to you? That means he was nagato's leader & thus the leader of akatsuki, he took control of it by taking control of the leader as you just stated.
Lol Again, you wanna see manga fact?You must be registered for see linksObito spurred yahiko to form akatsuki, meaning whatever reason yahiko had to form the akatsuki in the first place was caused by obito himself.
There's alsoYou must be registered for see linkslittle scan right here. Kisame acknowledges obito as the true leader of the group, not nagato. & Then we haveYou must be registered for see linksscan which shows us nagato admitting himself that he was being used by obito & thus under his control.
You were slightly right about something though, nagato & konan believed in a different type of akatsuki, the "true" meaning behind the group, however that doesn't change the fact that obito took control of the group & unfortunately the name along with it, this misconstruing it.
You must be registered for see linksJust as sakura said. I know, vague, but it's still better than referring to them as a group that's apparently been disbanded according to you.
& In their point of view they could have referred to them as simply the enemy, the fact that kishi specifically showed us SA members referring to them as akatsuki shows that the group was still alive, at least in the manga universe.
I guess so.
Normally I would too, however since it doesn't make a difference this time it's an exception.
If a different form changes their ranking then yeah I'm going to mention it, however in obito's case where the rank doesn't matter regardless of the form I don't see why it's a problem. But as you said different viewpoint I guess.
If you're going to include Kabuto why shouldn't Sasuke be included? Lol curious to see if you would include Current Sasuke or Taka Sasuke if we did include him.
Obito is first.
I agree Obito beats Nagato, but I'm just saying Nagato is stronger than MS Obito in terms of power. In other words, it is a bad match up.
For example: Minato beats Obito because of FTG which counters Kamui, yet Nagato destroys Minato because he's much more powerful than Minato.