Who's the better villain: Madara or Cell?

[Shadow Phantasm]

DBZ villains suck.

So are most Naruto villians,the only one who is actually a villian is Orochimaru.Obito,Madara,Kabuto,and Nagato all had excuses for being bad.

 

[Howling Fox]

Cell is legendary only due to gohan. Had he been legit he'd kill gohan b4 he even tried ssj2

That because of Cell's Saiyan genes that make him want a challenge. Like when Vegeta had a retard moment and let Cell absorb androids.

And Madara do same thing. He got a hard on from mighty guy and he didn't finish off naruto or sasukeh even tho he had them on the ropes.

 

[Ababeel]

Everyone is better than madara. He is such an awful character and villain as well.
Really not hard to be a better villain than this guy.

 

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

Lol. Cell is a badass mother****er & shits on Madara. Obviously.

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[Meee]

Cell, Naruto villains are garbage we all know how Madara will go out.

 

[Bronze]

You criticized Cell for being a villian that's only about power,Madara is the same way.In a way your post could apply to Madara as well since he wanted power to achieve his goals.

Madara lost 5 of his brothers in war, parents, and trust of his clan as leader. That is tragic backstory, thus he has reasons to support his change as villain. Cell doesn't have backstory.

He has long term motive, which technically coincides with his backstory, seeing as how all the chaos and sadness brought to him and other people, he felt sorrow and wanted to control the world where this doesn't have to happen anymore. Cell, like all the other DBZ villains, wants to destroy the world. Not such a motive at all.

Madara has personality, seeing as how he has been effected treacherously by his past, he discriminates against Women and Senju, the same people he fought, he loves fighting, since he was war-lord, he is calculative and manipulative, as he brainwashed Obito by his peace words to do all of his dirty, and killed him on cold blood without remorse, to achieve his goals. Cell has no personality.

Madara killed off 2 main characters and is the reason why Obito had caused problems to the verse. Cell has no big cause.

All DBZ focuses is on power, hence why they have shit villains and characters.

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara of course...

Both are horrible villains.


Amon from lok(b4 the mask came off)... now that. THAT was a villain.

Amon wasn't even a reall villain......

Cell, Naruto villains are garbage we all know how Madara will go out.

pretty much the same can be said any other series, when they hit the climax.... Kid Buu ending was predicted.. and so on.

However, no one could've predicted sh*t 20 + chapters ago..

Hell once they trained Gohan.. most pretty much knew he was taking over.. rofl.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Madara lost 5 of his brothers in war, parents, and trust of his clan as leader. That is tragic backstory, thus he has reasons to support his change as villain. Cell doesn't have backstory.

He has long term motive, which technically coincides with his backstory, seeing as how all the chaos and sadness brought to him and other people, he felt sorrow and wanted to control the world where this doesn't have to happen anymore. Cell, like all the other DBZ villains, wants to destroy the world. Not such a motive at all.

Madara has personality, seeing as how he has been effected treacherously by his past, he discriminates against Women and Senju, the same people he fought, he loves fighting, since he was war-lord, he is calculative and manipulative, as he brainwashed Obito by his peace words to do all of his dirty, and killed him on cold blood without remorse, to achieve his goals. Cell has no personality.

Madara killed off 2 main characters and is the reason why Obito had caused problems to the verse. Cell has no big cause.

All DBZ focuses is on power, hence why they have shit villains and characters.

Loosing 5 brothers is no better backstory than any other, and he supposedly made peace with hashirama anyway. Anything after that is just him being a bastard.

If madara's motive is the Eye of The Moon plan, why does he automatically go to fight hashirama, regardless of how much obito is stealling the spotlight, and juubi.

So madara loosing friends in a war is a good motive, but not for Obito?

Also, you really need to learn the meaning of the word "Killed" Naruto and Sasuke are still walking around, and you've said that he killed Obito too.

 

[Bronze]

Loosing 5 brothers is no better backstory than any other, and he supposedly made peace with hashirama anyway. Anything after that is just him being a bastard.

If madara's motive is the Eye of The Moon plan, why does he automatically go to fight hashirama, regardless of how much obito is stealling the spotlight, and juubi.

So madara loosing friends in a war is a good motive, but not for Obito?

Also, you really need to learn the meaning of the word "Killed" Naruto and Sasuke are still walking around, and you've said that he killed Obito too.

This has nothing to do with Obito at all. And lol, you're the same guy who bashes Madara over Obito. Get lost.

 

[-Punk-]

Cell laughable explosive diff .

There's a difference with Cella gaining powers , he was meant to do that from the start , he was created for that purpose ( become perfect) his character had to work his way up to the androids levels , traveled through time & finally did it , I really like Cell, definitely one of my favorite villains .

Again, Cell laughable explosive diff

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[KingHashirama]

OT: only dbz comparable to Madara's epicness is Buu. No one else comes close.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Cell is retarded. Literally, retarded. For no reason.

Through absorption, he is capable of gaining the knowledge the victim had. He's displayed this a few times in DBZ. Through absorption, he also gets stronger. Though when he absorbs the androids he is transforms.

By his Perfect Form, he can no longer absorb. The capability is gone. Now. . Doctor Gero's creation is incredibly intelligent, that goes without saying as with absoprtion and the creator making sure of Cell being above average. Why didn't he absorb Bulma, go back to the past, absorb EVERYTHING in the Universe, time travel again, do it all over again, and keep doing this? He'd get stronger and stronger, and be closer to what he defines as "Perfection" Being the strongest.

No need to absorb the androids just yet. Just go to different time lines. It's a never ending tale. He can do this for all eternity. He should recognize his ability to do this. Yet. . .He wastes it, absorbs some people, then the androids. And limits himself. Perfection? No Cell. You're being stupid for failing to realize the potential you had.

That, and Madara has at least three times more depth than Cell. But Cell has a swagger to him. . .Dat theme.

 

[startup97]

Cell, no contest. While Madara just wants to achieve peace through force, Cell is actually just plain evil. He also has in his DNA the heroes abilities, traits and even personality making him a perfect villain in my opinion.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Madara lost 5 of his brothers in war, parents, and trust of his clan as leader. That is tragic backstory, thus he has reasons to support his change as villain. Cell doesn't have backstory.

He has long term motive, which technically coincides with his backstory, seeing as how all the chaos and sadness brought to him and other people, he felt sorrow and wanted to control the world where this doesn't have to happen anymore. Cell, like all the other DBZ villains, wants to destroy the world. Not such a motive at all.

Madara has personality, seeing as how he has been effected treacherously by his past, he discriminates against Women and Senju, the same people he fought, he loves fighting, since he was war-lord, he is calculative and manipulative, as he brainwashed Obito by his peace words to do all of his dirty, and killed him on cold blood without remorse, to achieve his goals. Cell has no personality.

Madara killed off 2 main characters and is the reason why Obito had caused problems to the verse. Cell has no big cause.

All DBZ focuses is on power, hence why they have shit villains and characters.

Cell had a purpose and goal:to be the ultimate being that ever existed.Madara did'nt kill Sasuke and Naruto since they're still alive while Cell killed Goku and Trunks(both in his alternate timeline and the one DBZ takes place in.)

Meanwhile Madara is ****ing around instead of doing the thing he spent nearly half a century planning.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Cell is retarded. Literally, retarded. For no reason.

Through absorption, he is capable of gaining the knowledge the victim had. He's displayed this a few times in DBZ. Through absorption, he also gets stronger. Though when he absorbs the androids he is transforms.

By his Perfect Form, he can no longer absorb. The capability is gone. Now. . Doctor Gero's creation is incredibly intelligent, that goes without saying as with absoprtion and the creator making sure of Cell being above average. Why didn't he absorb Bulma, go back to the past, absorb EVERYTHING in the Universe, time travel again, do it all over again, and keep doing this? He'd get stronger and stronger, and be closer to what he defines as "Perfection" Being the strongest.

No need to absorb the androids just yet. Just go to different time lines. It's a never ending tale. He can do this for all eternity. He should recognize his ability to do this. Yet. . .He wastes it, absorbs some people, then the androids. And limits himself. Perfection? No Cell. You're being stupid for failing to realize the potential you had.

That, and Madara has at least three times more depth than Cell. But Cell has a swagger to him. . .Dat theme.

The reason Cell does'nt need to absorb anyone in his Perfect Form is because what's the point?He had already absorbed 17&18 and completed his evolution.The only reason Cell even went back in time is because the androids were destroyed in his timeline.

 

[Sageflash]

Cell is retarded. Literally, retarded. For no reason.

Through absorption, he is capable of gaining the knowledge the victim had. He's displayed this a few times in DBZ. Through absorption, he also gets stronger. Though when he absorbs the androids he is transforms.

By his Perfect Form, he can no longer absorb. The capability is gone. Now. . Doctor Gero's creation is incredibly intelligent, that goes without saying as with absoprtion and the creator making sure of Cell being above average. Why didn't he absorb Bulma, go back to the past, absorb EVERYTHING in the Universe, time travel again, do it all over again, and keep doing this? He'd get stronger and stronger, and be closer to what he defines as "Perfection" Being the strongest.

No need to absorb the androids just yet. Just go to different time lines. It's a never ending tale. He can do this for all eternity. He should recognize his ability to do this. Yet. . .He wastes it, absorbs some people, then the androids. And limits himself. Perfection? No Cell. You're being stupid for failing to realize the potential you had.

That, and Madara has at least three times more depth than Cell. But Cell has a swagger to him. . .Dat theme.

[video=youtube;ruPSr8uSoZQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruPSr8uSoZQ[/video]

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The reason Cell does'nt need to absorb anyone in his Perfect Form is because what's the point?He had already absorbed 17&18 and completed his evolution,the only reason Cell even went back in time is because the androids were destroyed in his timeline.

Cell'ss mindset was the Ultimate or Perfect being was unstoppable. He knew he gained power from Earthling, and he also knew of other planets that generally produced stronger fighters. I.E. The Namekians. Absorbing the Androids multiples his power and what not, so why not absorb MORE to make the multiplication even greater?!

Cell's true goal should of been something more along the lines of absorbing all life and attaining everything to be complete. Not unsimilar of his counterpart in naruto, Orochimaru. But Instead Cell blinds himself to the androids when he should know to absorb powerful fighters and well, everything else to make his later power stronger.

Why stop there? Why not go to another planet or time line and continue it? Cell literally has no real reason why to not do this and bum rush towards the Androids. Yet he does. His character is basically a stereotypical "Bad ass". Piss poor villain. His introduction basically turned the DBZ verse from decent to sub par.

[video=youtube;ruPSr8uSoZQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruPSr8uSoZQ[/video]

I should of expected this. .

 

[Bronze]

Cell had a purpose and goal:to be the ultimate being that ever existed.Madara did'nt kill Sasuke and Naruto since they're still alive while Cell killed Goku and Trunks(both in his alternate timeline and the one DBZ takes place in.)

Meanwhile Madara is ****ing around instead of doing the thing he spent nearly half a century planning.

That is barely a depth motive. Almost every character in DBZ wants the same thing. A villain is no longer good villain, if he/she has same motive as all the other ones do. He killed them physically, but not mentally as Hagoromo came to their aid. The point is, Madara is the only one the few villains to physically kill 2 main characters, while the others have failed, thus he has huge influence as villain.

That's his personality. He was war-lord, he fought in war for years, it is something he admires.

As I previously said, DBZ focuses on power. Naruto focuses on characterization, development overall, story, and emotion moments.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Cell'ss mindset was the Ultimate or Perfect being was unstoppable. He knew he gained power from Earthling, and he also knew of other planets that generally produced stronger fighters. I.E. The Namekians. Absorbing the Androids multiples his power and what not, so why not absorb MORE to make the multiplication even greater?!

Cell's true goal should of been something more along the lines of absorbing all life and attaining everything to be complete. Not unsimilar of his counterpart in naruto, Orochimaru. But Instead Cell blinds himself to the androids when he should know to absorb powerful fighters and well, everything else to make his later power stronger.

Why stop there? Why not go to another planet or time line and continue it? Cell literally has no real reason why to not do this and bum rush towards the Androids. Yet he does. His character is basically a stereotypical "Bad ass". Piss poor villain. His introduction basically turned the DBZ verse from decent to sub par.


I should of expected this. .

Except we don't even know if the universe contains fighters powerful enough for Cell to even bother absorbing.He could've done something like that if Gohan had'nt killed him, given what Cell said about travelling the universe and laying waste to it.At the time however Cell was only following his natural programming, which was to absorb Androids 17&18 and become the ultimate being.

 

[Vegeto30294]

A villain is no longer good villain, if he/she has same motive as all the other ones do.

Didn't Nagato, Obito, and Madara all want the same thing with a different approach? :|