Whos stronger: Nagato or Itachi

[The Necromancer]

It actually does not mention anything about Tobi being Madara on the sides, if you read the left side again it states him has 'Tobi" instead of Madara. Again the bottom right quote is free from all character bias, has it is from Kishi himself.

Here, you see anything about Madara in the editorial notes to the sides and bottom?

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[Jukain]

Rational thinker. Fair. Honest.







Irrational thinkers with no evidence and bold (biased) claims.

Dude the only one being irrational is you. Itachi is strong and all but Nagato is so OBVIOUSLY stronger than him. Kishi set Nagato to fight 3 of the strongest ninjas and have them all work together to deafet him to show how hes on another level compared to the others, and mind you while all of this is happening he cant even walk, if nagato could walk he would have dodged the blade and the outcome of the fight would have been different. Destroying villages, easily killing hanzo and his men, deafeting armys, and being chosen by Madara himself. Itachis feats pale in comparision. Itachi is a great ninja and def top tier but hes not deafeting Nagato and you know it. it is you who has no base to back up that Itachi stands equal to Nagato.

 

[SpaceSage]

well by looks of it at the moment nagato takes win so far but as i do go for nagato in strength itachi is always one of my favs and i go itachi in who is better in everything else.

 

[SpaceSage]

This has been done like 10000 times and nagato beats him everytime.

itachi is the one capable of releasing edo tensei relesing both himself and nagato so dont forget how strong his genjutsu is

 

[The Necromancer]

Dude the only one being irrational is you. Itachi is strong and all but Nagato is so OBVIOUSLY stronger than him. Kishi set Nagato to fight 3 of the strongest ninjas and have them all work together to deafet him to show how hes on another level compared to the others, and mind you while all of this is happening he cant even walk, if nagato could walk he would have dodged the blade and the outcome of the fight would have been different. Destroying villages, easily killing hanzo and his men, deafeting armys, and being chosen by Madara himself. Itachis feats pale in comparision. Itachi is a great ninja and def top tier but hes not deafeting Nagato and you know it. it is you who has no base to back up that Itachi stands equal to Nagato.

He could walk before itachi was even fighting. Good try though. And aside from the help in destroying CT, Itachi already soloed nagato and that's a manga fact. And don't even start saying that CT solos him, because unless he starts the fight with it, he's dead before it comes out.

 

[SpaceSage]

Nagato might be stronger, but Itachi is the mutha****ing brainiac!

better way of explaining it would be: nagato has firepower but itachi is a strategist as well as ultimate genjutsu user

 

[Jukain]

He could walk before itachi was even fighting. Good try though. And aside from the help in destroying CT, Itachi already soloed nagato and that's a manga fact. And don't even start saying that CT solos him, because unless he starts the fight with it, he's dead before it comes out.

No he could not walk, he needed assistance from Itachi the entire time, are you serious? And how was he solod? He was never solod in the start, quit making stuff up. And the only manga fact is that Itachi cannot stop CT by himself. And please tell me how Nagato is dead before he shoots off CT. Besides Nagato does not even need it to deafet Itachi.
And its funny cause you sound completley convinced that Nagato will lose but earlier stated that they are even....hmmmmm

 

[The Necromancer]

No he could not walk, he needed assistance from Itachi the entire time, are you serious? And how was he solod? He was never solod in the start, quit making stuff up. And the only manga fact is that Itachi cannot stop CT by himself. And please tell me how Nagato is dead before he shoots off CT. Besides Nagato does not even need it to deafet Itachi.
And its funny cause you sound completley convinced that Nagato will lose but earlier stated that they are even....hmmmmm

Which manga do you read? He was able to walk the second he took bee's hachibi chakra... secondly CT was used ONLY after encountering 3 opponents at once that he was unable to defeat, up until then he used other techniques only, next itachi was able to blind all of nagato's summons and the king of hell statue having only seen the rinnegan's field of vision once before and was able to find and exploit CT's weakness in 10 seconds after seeing it. Lastly, had he not had to save naruto and bee, susano'o could have stabbed nagato at any point in the fight as easily as it did at the end of the fight. Nagato died by itachi's hand. This is a fact. Naruto and Bee did nothing but get in his way.

 

[SpaceSage]

izanami, KA(shisui;s genjutsu), tsukyonomi are capable of taking down nagato

 

[Jukain]

Which manga do you read? He was able to walk the second he took bee's hachibi chakra... secondly CT was used ONLY after encountering 3 opponents at once that he was unable to defeat, up until then he used other techniques only, next itachi was able to blind all of nagato's summons and the king of hell statue having only seen the rinnegan's field of vision once before and was able to find and exploit CT's weakness in 10 seconds after seeing it. Lastly, had he not had to save naruto and bee, susano'o could have stabbed nagato at any point in the fight as easily as it did at the end of the fight. Nagato died by itachi's hand. This is a fact. Naruto and Bee did nothing but get in his way.

Dude, your reasoniing is so flawed. First of all if you actually read the manga you would have seen how Kabuto said Nagato lost becouse he did not have to use of his legs. And yes your correct in saying he used it becouse he was encountering 3 ninjas and he only used it so early becouse he could NOT WALK, you take so much pride in Itachi sealing a opponent that could not even walk. And where you stand wrong the most is where you say stuff like Itachi could have stabbed him anytime or how he blinded his summons.....Dude Nagato was occupied with Bee and Naruto. If it were not for him being in the middle of killing both of them Itachi would have never had a chance to do all that he could. If the fight was one on one Itachi would not have been able to pull any of that off. He would have been on the same exact position as Naruto and Bee. Your giving Itachi so much credit but he was only able to pull it off cause of Nagato being distracted by two powerful people. And you are a idiot to say all Bee and Naruto did was get in the way becouse if they were not there to distract Nagato in the first place Itachi would have been the one that would need saving. Yes Itachi is smart in figuring all that stuff out, HOWEVER it means nothing if he cannot stop CT on his own. He would have been crushed if Naruto and Bee was not there. And i guess you are one of those irrational thinkers becouse it is clear that you do not think they are equal.....using your own words against yourself smh. shows how inconsistent you are.

 

[FizzyDrink]

Ok, since for some reason Nagato vs Itachi is back, I'll explian, once again, why Nagato is the majority winner.

Let me also explain the scenario. This is with each at their theoretical peak when alive, without plot related handicaps (so for me, I count it with Itachi NOT being sick, and with Nagato having the use of both of his legs).

So I'll just start out with all of Itachi's jutsu abilities, and explain how Nagato can counter them, and why it is more probable for him to counter them than not.

1st of all there is Amaterasu. That one is easy, seeing as how Preta Path just goes and absorbs it.

2nd we have Tsukiyomi (any other genjutsu would not be powerful enough to bind Nagato). I shall agree that in my opinion, Nagato cannot win if Itachi uses Tsukiyomi on him. HOWEVER, Nagato knows Itachi is a prolific genjutsu fighter, and would avoid eye contact (this is strategical, and very probable). To continue fighting, Nagato could close his eyes and fight with his sensing abilities, or he could fight using shared vision with his summons. He has shown to be very good at fighting without looking at his opponent, so this is entirely possible.

Then the last of Itachi's main arsenal is Susanoo. The Sword of Totsuka is the main problem here. However, Nagato is not stupid enough to let him get pierced by a full on stab so easily. Nagato is fully capable of flying out of reach, either by using Deva Path, Asura Path, or by using one of his summons. Also, we know that Nagato has sensing abilities and is also fast (in terms of reactions), so he also may be capable of dodging the blade.

So basically the ways for Itachi to win are to stab Nagato with the Sword of Totsuka or catch him in a genjutsu, both of which I just shown to be less likely to happen than not. And at the very least, Nagato has counters to both of them.

However, against some of Nagato's jutsu, Itachi has NO counters.

CT is an instant win. Regardless of when Nagato uses it in a fight, if he does, he wins. There is no way to escape.

Knowing Nagato's power, Itachi is FORCED to keep up Susanoo. If he doesn't, Bansho Tenin can suck him in and he would get impaled by an Asura path blade, or get his soul sucked out. So Susanoo is a must.

This leads us to the fact that Itachi's stamina would drain ridiculously quickly. Nagato honestly just has to fly out of reach of the sword and close his eyes, meanwhile he will shoot missiles at Itachi, and he would win by wearing Itachi out. No way for Itachi to survive there.

Chou Shinra tensei is also almost a definite win for Itachi. It would blow Susanoo back miles. There is no way Itachi's Susanoo withstands that, seeing as how the ground beneath it would also be getting shot back. Itachi would die.

And then there's Gedo Mazo...Nagato's 5 elemental abilities...etc. These all combine to give Nagato even more chances of winning.

So basically, overall, Itachi has 2 ways of winning. Both of them can be countered, and they both aren't likely to happen.

Nagato has at least 3 ways of winning, and Itachi cannot counter any of them. Two of them are also probable.

So, overall, Nagato CLEARLY is the superior fighter. He wins 70/100 times.

 

[NOemotions]

So many itachi fans here xd laughable.

 

[tazze019]

Obviously Nagato is the stronger! He was the strongest in Akatsuki before Tobi got his rinnegan

 

[Rezakage]

Nagato>Itachi :hypertobi:

 

[natzzz]

In fact, rational thinkers have come to the conclusion that Nagato is superior.

I am one of these thinkers. And although I do agree that Itachi CAN win, if they were to fight 100 times, Nagato would win 60-70 of the battles.

agree with this guy.

 

[tazze019]

Yes, Nagato is stronger but Itachi is one of the character that has a highest chances of beating Nagato..

 

[Ceremonial]

So many itachi fans here xd laughable.

Really the majority of people here seem to be pretty rational. theres no need to chat shit for no reason.

on topic nagato is stronger. but itachi has a small chance of winning if he has two distractions.
remember how fast he disabled the shared vision with his kunai and he then ripped of nagatos arm with his susanoo.

 

[genii96]

Nagato dominates itachi like child's play,it's not muc of a debate,crippled nagato would solo healthy itachi anyday,healthy nagato would rape any form of itachi anyday. Itachi has no chance alone to beat nagato.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nagato wins.

 

[SpaceSage]

itachi still has 50/50 chance