Who's side are you on?
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Like I've said before, Madara is trying to project his inability to cope with not being a "winner" on others... Quite literally, while Naruto, well, his way seems too idealistic but at the same time he did say something like, "I'm not looking for an easy path but for a way to walk the hard one" to Obito, which shows that he isn't too naive anymore. Since he is a Shounen protagonist, of course his ideals are exaggerated and shouldn't be applied to reality in a literal sense. And since I prefer not to escape from reality but face it, it's Naruto's way for me.
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Of course, i wanted him to become homage.
Yeah but way he would have changed the world though.
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Like he can make a difference, madara would send him back to the kitchen to make itachi'so pancakes.
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i hate it when people always go around about realistic as if our so called "realistic" world is a paradise.they want the world to be peaceful by realistic means(aka killing all the bad guys if they pop up,isn't that it the realistic way and the way it was going over and over again since ever? well did i ever tell you the definition of insanity:it's doing the exact same thing over and over expecting different results,judging by that naruto is the only sane person who wants a real change by changing the method of achieving peace,changing the source of the problem which is the people's hearts and settling their differences through talking not through spilling more blood.
i'm not saying everyone will change but there are some people that will cross the line and end up punished through the laws.
and about madara's way,he's a delusional nutjob,his plan won't last beyond his life time,when he dies he'll leave the world in ruins,juubi on the loose with nobody able to stop it,and more importantly people with no real goal and motive or lead in life since all what they did was live a happy dream that they got handed easily everything in life.
i'm not saying everyone will change but there are some people that will cross the line and end up punished through the laws.
and about madara's way,he's a delusional nutjob,his plan won't last beyond his life time,when he dies he'll leave the world in ruins,juubi on the loose with nobody able to stop it,and more importantly people with no real goal and motive or lead in life since all what they did was live a happy dream that they got handed easily everything in life.
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It's always on naruto way and half of the dreams was successfully acomplished as the allied shinobi forces, since all the shinobi are united and figthing with naruto to save the world and naruto is the only person who could create a link with all the shinobi and he is the key to the peace.. And as if madara( obito ) told to naruto an the land of iron that Sasuke and Naruto are some how related to the Sage of six paths and they keep fighting from the start without their knowledge and also loving and carring for each other from the starting of the series as sakuke may be the Rikkadu's Elder son's re-birth with visual powers and naruto the younger sons rebirth with lotz of chakra and the body to withstand lotz of damage and carring for love... So not only me most of them chose NARUTO's path only....
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Was it really? I've heard that it was only "supposedly" his. But it reached memetic status with Vaas anyway.
Yeah... Like someone is going to care what some insecure, stupid teenager wants... Madara's all the way. At least it sounds like it fixes the problem. So what if it is not technically real?! People are not calm, peaceful kind in any fiction, and definitely not in reality. And even if there is a period piece of such, it is always shown to be only temporary.
Naruto will just beat Madara, and then they will just live how they lived before...
The truly evil people, are probably people like that businessman that hired Zabuza Momochi for the bridge-worker assassination. Those people will still exist, and all this chakra nonsense and jutsus-power obsession are not even required.
Naruto is a shallow, thick, ignorant nobody, but I understand why no one would want to live in some hypnotic state. Let the wars and conflict exist, I don't what to live in that crap Madara wants, even though I rather support his viewpoint.
However, these: "Believe it!", "I will become the Hokage!", "I will lift the curse", " I will change the world I promise!". FFS... Just stop...
Dem pacifist ninjas... Why would you even pursue such a violent, murderous career then? And why would you have such an obsession with becoming the strongest and most powerful ninja?! Does not sound all that convincing. Isn't absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Yeah, I am definitely w/ Madara
Naruto will just beat Madara, and then they will just live how they lived before...
The truly evil people, are probably people like that businessman that hired Zabuza Momochi for the bridge-worker assassination. Those people will still exist, and all this chakra nonsense and jutsus-power obsession are not even required.
Naruto is a shallow, thick, ignorant nobody, but I understand why no one would want to live in some hypnotic state. Let the wars and conflict exist, I don't what to live in that crap Madara wants, even though I rather support his viewpoint.
However, these: "Believe it!", "I will become the Hokage!", "I will lift the curse", " I will change the world I promise!". FFS... Just stop...
Dem pacifist ninjas... Why would you even pursue such a violent, murderous career then? And why would you have such an obsession with becoming the strongest and most powerful ninja?! Does not sound all that convincing. Isn't absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Yeah, I am definitely w/ Madara
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I agree but once madara died, he would share same fate as so6p. Meaning 10 tails and evil will roam free, everything will be back to normal again. I think itsYeah... Like someone is going to care what some insecure, stupid teenager wants... Madara's all the way. At least it sounds like it fixes the problem. So what if it is not technically real?! People are not calm, peaceful kind in any fiction, and definitely not in reality. And even if there is a period piece of such, it is always shown to be only temporary.
Naruto will just beat Madara, and then they will just live how they lived before...
The truly evil people, are probably people like that businessman that hired Zabuza Momochi for the bridge-worker assassination. Those people will still exist, and all this chakra nonsense and jutsus-power obsession are not even required.
Naruto is a shallow, thick, ignorant nobody, but I understand why no one would want to live in some hypnotic state. Let the wars and conflict exist, I don't what to live in that crap Madara wants, even though I rather support his viewpoint.
However, these: "Believe it!", "I will become the Hokage!", "I will lift the curse", " I will change the world I promise!". FFS... Just stop...
Dem pacifist ninjas... Why would you even pursue such a violent, murderous career then? And why would you have such an obsession with becoming the strongest and most powerful ninja?! Does not sound all that convincing. Isn't absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Yeah, I am definitely w/ Madara
Better to destroy everything. Then there will be true peace
True peace is just bullshit. Madara emphasized it right, it can only be taken seriously in a "dream world". There will be no peace just because there are no more Bijuus (that are equivalent to Nuclear weapons in our world).
Even removing all chakra and jutsus won't make any peace. There are still people that use regular weapons, there are ninjas who solely rely on kunai and explosive tags like all the fodder we see.
This is the point i tried to make with Zabuza arc, should highlight a little, the human nature even in their world. That mafia boss, with that enormous army of stray thugs with swords and desire to see people suffer and gain max- profits, shows well how people will behave even without high powered jutsus, blood limits, etc.
Naruto has nothing to offer get rid of that. He is a hypocrite, and naive dumb kid with nothing but cute speeches.
I could've been with Naruto, if Kishi didn't try to sell him like a character that is promising everyone that they have to "believe it" and that he will solo every problem and burden people have, and that he can change the world. If you just don't want that genjutsu world, fine, i get it then, but their reasons for fighting Madara are not just that.
And those people who get TnJed by Naruto... Oh man. :dead:
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