Who's chakra is stronger, Sasuke or Narutos

[Dantee]

Orochimaru wanted Itachi more than Sasuke, hell he did not even know Sasuke yet until the Chunin Exams or probably the massacre. The only real time Sasuke was compared to Madara or surpassing him outside of Kurama in Part 2, was the War Arc when he had EMS. Anything else on the subject will just have to be backed up by Manga scans so we can stop arguing about it.


That's what I mean though. He is not above average, he is average. I'll go by feats of Genjutsu being able to control a Bijuu through the one's that can do it thus far. I mean Obito even placed a PJ under his control.

Both Madara, and Obito are prodigious in the skill. Itachi would have been better I would assume thanks to Tsukuyomi.

Still doesn't change anything I've said, Itachi was just that good. Sasukes lack of gen feats doesn't mean Kurama wouldn't have been under his control. speaking of feats Where are Kuramas gen resistance feats?

 

[SenseiSama]

Still doesn't change anything I've said, Itachi was just that good. Sasukes lack of gen feats doesn't mean Kurama wouldn't have been under his control. speaking of feats Where are Kuramas gen resistance feats?

Just to add to that, Obito managed to use gen on Kurama and he's probably shittier than Sasuke.

 

[lndra]

Still doesn't change anything I've said, Itachi was just that good. Sasukes lack of gen feats doesn't mean Kurama wouldn't have been under his control. speaking of feats Where are Kuramas gen resistance feats?

Well it does. You stated that Sasuke was made to surpass Madara since birth, and that Orochimaru knew this. Obviously that is wrong on all accounts seeing how Orochimaru wanted Itachi more than anyone else. He even joined the Akatsuki to get closer to him, and Pain supposedly (Not sure if that is canon or not).

I would believe that Kurama would have a high resistance to Genjutsu seeing how only certain Uchiha's can cast a Genjutsu on them. I mean even the Yang Kurama had enough willpower to talk despite the Rinnegan Genjutsu paralyzing and binding them. So Genjutsu on TB aside from certain Uchiha's would probably be null, no?

Just to add to that, Obito managed to use gen on Kurama and he's probably shittier than Sasuke.

Obito placed Yugara in his mind control too. So Obito is a strong Genjutsu user.

 

[SenseiSama]

Jut to let you all know Sasukes chakra being more sinister does not mean its more powerful than Kurama or Madaras. Sinister is just the feel of his chakra, very dark and evil and sinsiter also has no correlation with the word power, for those who didn't know. Karin called Narutos chakra warm and bright. Hashiramas chakra would feel the exact same way but that doesn't mean Narutos chakra is stronger than his because we know its not, at least the Naruto at that point when she made that statement. Karin then noted Naruto had an evil (Kurama) chakra deep within him and said it felt exactly like Sasukes. It is just the feel of their power, not the actual power.

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Sasuke's chakra was strong enough to calm Juugo's psychopathic episodes. It was also strong enough to pierce Raikage's lightning armour despite him having bijuu level chakra.

 

[iNotorious]

Naruto.

 

[Dantee]

Well it does. You stated that Sasuke was made to surpass Madara since birth, and that Orochimaru knew this. Obviously that is wrong on all accounts seeing how Orochimaru wanted Itachi more than anyone else. He even joined the Akatsuki to get closer to him, and Pain supposedly (Not sure if that is canon or not).

I would believe that Kurama would have a high resistance to Genjutsu seeing how only certain Uchiha's can cast a Genjutsu on them. I mean even the Yang Kurama had enough willpower to talk despite the Rinnegan Genjutsu paralyzing and binding them. So Genjutsu on TB aside from certain Uchiha's would probably be null, no?


Obito placed Yugara in his mind control too. So Obito is a strong Genjutsu user.

Since birth ok I guess even Oro wouldn't know the impossible. But since Oro set his eyes on Sasuke he eventually reached the conclusion Sasuke could become stronger than Madara.

Kurama mumbling his last words to Naruto while he's being sealed away? That's your retort for genjutsu resistance? Is this even worth debating about. I can go on and say Sasuke was exhausted from fighting kaguya or genjutsu the other 9 bijuu while making CTs but I'd say theres nothing much left to discuss.

 

[lndra]

Since birth ok I guess even Oro wouldn't know the impossible. But since Oro set his eyes on Sasuke he eventually reached the conclusion Sasuke could become stronger than Madara.

Kurama mumbling his last words to Naruto while he's being sealed away? That's your retort for genjutsu resistance? Is this even worth debating about. I can go on and say Sasuke was exhausted from fighting kaguya or genjutsu the other 9 bijuu while making CTs but I'd say theres nothing much left to discuss.

When Kurama was the only TB shown of resisting to it. Obviously it is a feat.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Obviously Sasuke - Indra/Uchiha's inherited the Sage's powerful chakra,and eyes,while Ashura/Senju inherited his body/life force. Naruto has more chakra,while Sasuke has powerful chakra.

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[Naruto X Hunter]

Orochimaru wanted Itachi more than Sasuke, hell he did not even know Sasuke yet until the Chunin Exams or probably the massacre. The only real time Sasuke was compared to Madara or surpassing him outside of Kurama in Part 2, was the War Arc when he had EMS. Anything else on the subject will just have to be backed up by Manga scans so we can stop arguing about it.


That's what I mean though. He is not above average, he is average. I'll go by feats of Genjutsu being able to control a Bijuu through the one's that can do it thus far. I mean Obito even placed a PJ under his control.

Both Madara, and Obito are prodigious in the skill. Itachi would have been better I would assume thanks to Tsukuyomi.

Adding onto what Dantee said,ontop of the Kyuubi comparing Sasuke to Madara,and Orochimaru saying he will surpass him,Tobirama himself said Sasuke is like Madara.

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Orochimaru wanted Itachi more than Sasuke in the past because Itachi was older,and already very well developed while Sasuke was still a child,so he want after Itachi instead,like when he first joined the Akatsuki.

Years later he said this.

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[lndra]

Adding onto what Dantee said,ontop of the Kyuubi comparing Sasuke to Madara,and Orochimaru saying he will surpass him,Tobirama himself said Sasuke is like Madara.

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Orochimaru wanted Itachi more than Sasuke in the past because Itachi was older,and already very well developed while Sasuke was still a child,so he want after Itachi instead,like when he first joined the Akatsuki.

Years later he said this.

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We were going back on forth on this notion that Orochimaru had wanted Sasuke before the Chunin Exams, I believe Dante said that Sasuke was born to surpass Madara. Which did not correlate with what the manga has shown, because it would have been difficult to name Sasuke as the successor of Madara in his youth, when clearly Itachi was the Genius of the clan itself.

 

[Nagi]

Well it does. You stated that Sasuke was made to surpass Madara since birth, and that Orochimaru knew this. Obviously that is wrong on all accounts seeing how Orochimaru wanted Itachi more than anyone else. He even joined the Akatsuki to get closer to him, and Pain supposedly (Not sure if that is canon or not).

I would believe that Kurama would have a high resistance to Genjutsu seeing how only certain Uchiha's can cast a Genjutsu on them. I mean even the Yang Kurama had enough willpower to talk despite the Rinnegan Genjutsu paralyzing and binding them. So Genjutsu on TB aside from certain Uchiha's would probably be null, no?


Obito placed Yugara in his mind control too. So Obito is a strong Genjutsu user.

Hold up! Orochimaru was in the Akatsuki before Itachi. Then shortly left after Itachi joined and trolled him.

 

[Xlad]

Did you seriously just changed to that username?

 

[Seventh Sama]

Are these sasuke fans serious? Sasuke having stronger chakra than kurama is stupid thinking.
But naruto vs sasuke wise, sasuke has the greater quality.

 

[take it easy]

Naruto. His chakra enough potent to contain Kurama.

 

[lndra]

Hold up! Orochimaru was in the Akatsuki before Itachi. Then shortly left after Itachi joined and trolled him.

I said in parenthesis that I was not sure if it was canon or not, the information I mean.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

We were going back on forth on this notion that Orochimaru had wanted Sasuke before the Chunin Exams, I believe Dante said that Sasuke was born to surpass Madara. Which did not correlate with what the manga has shown, because it would have been difficult to name Sasuke as the successor of Madara in his youth, when clearly Itachi was the Genius of the clan itself.

His main focus was Itachi before the exams,but knowing Orochimaru,he might most likely already had Sasuke in mind as his back up incase he failed to get Itachi.Logically we can assume that's what he thinking,although that wasn't mentioned in the manga.

I wouldn't say Sasuke was born to surpass Madara,but he definitely has the potential too with them both being Indra's riencarnation,and considering Sasuke has achieved so much at a young age earlier than Madara.

Are these sasuke fans serious? Sasuke having stronger chakra than kurama is stupid thinking.
But naruto vs sasuke wise, sasuke has the greater quality.

I didn't read most of the previous comments,but did anyone mention/post this page?

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[Conspirator.]

Sasuke. Naruto has more quantity.

This.

 

[lndra]

His main focus was Itachi before the exams,but knowing Orochimaru,he might most likely already had Sasuke in mind as his back up incase he failed to get Itachi.Logically we can assume that's what he thinking,although that wasn't mentioned in the manga.

I wouldn't say Sasuke was born to surpass Madara,but he definitely has the potential too with them both being Indra's riencarnation,and considering Sasuke has achieved so much at a young age earlier than Madara.

I can only see Orochimaru caring about Sasuke only after the massacre. Only because he could never get Itachi in the first place.

I didn't read most of the previous comments,but did anyone mention/post this page?

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Yeah I already debated against it. Just look on either page two or three.

 

[Shanks]

Easiest question even sasuke knows this answer .

 

[Ken Kaneki]

This is what I think and reading all the comments haven't changed my opinion:-

1) Naruto's chakra < Sasuke's chakra in potency
2) Naruto's chakra in quantity >>> Sasuke's chakra
3) Kurama's chakra potency = Sasuke's chakra potency
4) With Naruto + Kurama, they have quantity + quality. So Sasuke has no way to face them alone. He only relies on quality. He has to get the quantity . He steals 8.5 on them and gets the quantity