Naruto performed Ninshuu on the entire SA because of his ability to control large amounts of chakra, Sasuke's reaction says it all, he can't match Naruto's ability to control huge masses of chakra.
Kakashi explained controlling chakra relies on stamina and Naruto currently has the most stamina in NV
In part 1 and most of part 2, I would have said Sasuke hands down. However, by the end of shippuden and in next Generation, I believe them to be equal or too close to tell without more information.
Anyone saying Naruto is better or that they are equal are just flat out lying, which is pretty much the norm in this section. :lol It's been canonically stated that Sasuke's merger of the Bijuu is a feat on par with Hagoromo's separation of the Juubi. Where has Naruto shown Sage of the Six Paths level chakra control feats? Never. Thus the answer is obvious.
You really need to stop with the stupid ass thing you do where you pass theory off as fact. Everything that is crossed off is not chakra control. The rest is nonsense concocted in your head. Not once was it stated that Ashura incarnates have the body to control the largest amount of chakra nor does the shinobi being able to feel his thoughts through his chakra constitute as chakra control.
I love how when it comes to Naruto and Sasuke people act like they need to be equal in every single damn category. :lol Even ignoring the same logical process used for other characters and situations in favor of said belief. :lol
I think Sasuke should be better but just by a little bit, considering Naruto should have larger reserves so he has room to let loose a lil excess of chakra.
Or they both just have near perfect control with irrelevent variables.
I love how when it comes to Naruto and Sasuke people act like they need to be equal in every single damn category. :lol Even ignoring the same logical process used for other characters and situations in favor of said belief. :lol
Sasukes sharingan makes him able to focus his chakra perfectly or his hand would've shattered when performinh chidori? learnt that pretty early on... BUT... how's sasukes control once you need to use ad much chakra as naruto uses? that's the question!
I see Naruto diehards are at it again. His Ninshuu feat? Borderline unimpressive, given that Kurama not only kneads the Chakra for him, but for the mode as well:
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Not only that, the chakra he distributed amongst the alliance was far less than Hashirama has in his system:
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Sasuke's chakra control is at the Sage's level:
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The manga has made no mention of Naruto's chakra control being anywhere near Sasuke's. So, quit being salty. Might as well just copy-paste my whole "Sasuke's chakra control" thread here:
This is my first Sasuke-Centric thread on this base. Despite being an avid fan, neither me nor my friend (who used this account in 2012) ever made any thread on him. But, now I believe when the manga is over, it is a high time to post a few facts that have been giving me an itch for so long.
This is the part I of the Chakra Control threads I will make on Sasuke. This one is quite short. However, as Naruto fans are experiencing the bouts of birthing asinine "I Lost" threads faster than rutting rabbits put out those fuzzy little bunnies, I thought, why the heck not? So, onto the post that is filled to the brim with scan goodies and Sauce-Magic. It's something magical, kiddies.
Chakra Control:
In layman manga terms, Chakra Control (CC) is just that, control over chakra; how it's regulated, how it's kneaded and how it is turned into a technique. Lack of control leads to unrefined techniques, over-usage of chakra and lack of mastery over the said tech.
These images are basically the gist of it:
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Sasuke's incomparable Chakra Control:
As you can see, it's simple. Now we come to the main topic at hand that concerns Sasuke's much talked about feat that puts him on the same pedestal as Sage of the Six paths. Time for a little history lesson:
This is what the Sage accomplished:
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Basically, what the Sage did was use a highly advanced version of Izanagi (Uchihas use the watered down version to simply "erase the results") or The Creation of all Things (COAT) through Yin/Yang elemental power and ripped the chakra into nine pieces, gave it shape and breathed life into it and sealed the Mezo. Mind you, it’s his most renowned and advanced feat!
Now, Sasuke faced a huge bump in the road to take a hard ride out of Konoha's moist juncture that awaited him with a wide and wanton, open stance; he didn't have a Mezo! How did he get around it? He went beyond Perfect Susanoo (the final, stabilized version of Complete Susanoo) by molding it into a container.
Before I proceed, it's important to note that Susanoo itself requires an immense amount of CC. This can be easily ascertained by Itachi's shock at Sasuke's use of Susanoo and Madara outright stating that PS is only achieved through the stabilization of Complete Susanoo's Chakra; that itself is a mountainous structure to maintain, hold and control, let alone mold and perfect it further into what Sasuke did:
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For the Bijuus, he pulled out the chakra and amalgamated it perfectly into PS molded into a Mezo structure to feed chakra to his Raiton techs (I will get to this point later). Now, the Sage performed COAT. Sasuke performed the opposite of COAT, but with additional control. This is what Kurama stated in that infamous scene (VIZ Translation, courtesy of my boi, Immortal):
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It isn't far-fetched to assume that "vessel for Susanoo" means exactly that; Sasuke became a kind of pseudo-Jubi-Jin, only without the beasts merged in the manner within the Mezo. As a Jubi Jin is a vessel for the Mezo/Jubi. He didn't pull out their complete chakra either. Who knows what he could have accomplished had he done it. But, we will never know … Curses!
Notice, in the second scan, how Sasuke is "simultaneously" not only performing outer-path pull, but is also kneading, controlling and performing the exact opposite of COAT, but, he is molding his PS to turn into a Mezo as well. That is FOUR tasks in one go. FOUR complex tasks, that not only involve Bijuu chakra but also Rinnegan control and his own chakra control; all to perform a task that is the opposite of COAT!
But, is that all? No. That brings us to the main argument: Sasuke's Chakra Control is something else. Why? Look closely at these scans; coloured and regular:
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What do you see? That's right, that is ALL the merged Bijuu chakra turned into Raiton! All of it. You can easily see the entire Bijuu Chakra, that isn't merged with Mezo-PS in any manner, flowing out of the exposed structures as raw Raiton in all the scans. It's easy to spot as it's forked like Lightning:
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And that's not all; he created a Raiton Sword as well! The scene where he smashed the dull Bunshin down was recreated perfectly in the anime!
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But, does this argument end here? No. Sasuke performed teleportation (as shown in the scan above where he smashed the Bunshin down), Taijutsu and ... Raiton Senbon AND created a whole bow and an arrow (Indra's Arrow) from the same structure: that is several uses of exponentially advanced Physical AND Spatial manipulation/Re-composition seen in the entire manga bar none!
This is what Kakashi states about the arduous task, as once you hand over a kneaded chakra, what's left in the task at hand? Nothing at all other than the tiny end of the monkey's tail; you let the monkey get away!
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As Sasuke is doing all that (and all by himself, unlike a certain someone who receives kneaded chakra after every tiny stumble and during every small task) WHILST maintaining PS-Mezo; a task that was performed in the direct opposition of COAT!
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Thus, Sasuke physically composed the ENTIRE Bijuu chakra into Raiton. Then, he Spatially composed it to determine its shape, scope and strength. He did three Spatial compositions for IA: converted the sword into the end of the bow, create the string of Raiton (and how PRECISE that had to be to launch it at just the right speed; you have to read on bows to even realize the magnitude of this feat) and the Arrow itself. And I am not even counting those Senbons. That’s FOUR complex tasks (Seven if I count shifting chakra management) on CC alone and without the handout of "Universal Grasp of all things; an auto-pilot-Chakra-Control-Mode." Believe it, folks!
That is a hell lot of chakra to manage, control perfectly and launch a devastating attack that overpowered, not one, but two Futon-based attacks. Something Ration is meant to accomplish if it's focused:
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So, yes, Sasuke's CC really is on a level that remains, and will always remain, untouched. Uncle Shelke dazed you kids, didn't he? Bask in the glory that is Sauce-Sama! Let the games begin!
Much sexy. Such wow. So Sasuke!
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Thank you for reading, kids. Don't annoy the uncle as he'll tan your hides red!
Sasukes sharingan makes him able to focus his chakra perfectly or his hand would've shattered when performinh chidori? learnt that pretty early on... BUT... how's sasukes control once you need to use ad much chakra as naruto uses? that's the question!
I see Naruto diehards are at it again. His Ninshuu feat? Borderline unimpressive, given that Kurama not only kneads the Chakra for him, but for the mode as well:
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Not only that, the chakra he distributed amongst the alliance was far less than Hashirama has in his system:
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Sasuke's chakra control is at the Sage's level:
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The manga has made no mention of Naruto's chakra control being anywhere near Sasuke's. So, quit being salty. Might as well just copy-paste my whole "Sasukes chakra control" thread here:
This is my first Sasuke-Centric thread on this base. Despite being an avid fan, neither me nor my friend (who used this account in 2012) ever made any thread on him. But, now I believe when the manga is over, it is a high time to post a few facts that have been giving me an itch for so long.
This is the part I of the Chakra Control threads I will make on Sasuke. This one is quite short. However, as Naruto fans are experiencing the bouts of birthing asinine "I Lost" threads faster than rutting rabbits put out those fuzzy little bunnies, I thought, why the heck not? So, onto the post that is filled to the brim with scan goodies and Sauce-Magic. It's something magical, kiddies.
Chakra Control:
In layman manga terms, Chakra Control (CC) is just that, control over chakra; how it's regulated, how it's kneaded and how it is turned into a technique. Lack of control leads to unrefined techniques, over-usage of chakra and lack of mastery over the said tech.
These images are basically the gist of it:
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You must be registered for see images
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Sasuke's incomparable Chakra Control:
As you can see, it's simple. Now we come to the main topic at hand that concerns Sasuke's much talked about feat that puts him on the same pedestal as Sage of the Six paths. Time for a little history lesson:
This is what the Sage accomplished:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Basically, what the Sage did was use a highly advanced version of Izanagi (Uchihas use the watered down version to simply "erase the results") or The Creation of all Things (COAT) through Yin/Yang elemental power and ripped the chakra into nine pieces, gave it shape and breathed life into it and sealed the Mezo. Mind you, it’s his most renowned and advanced feat!
Now, Sasuke faced a huge bump in the road to take a hard ride out of Konoha's moist juncture that awaited him with a wide and wanton, open stance; he didn't have a Mezo! How did he get around it? He went beyond Perfect Susanoo (the final, stabilized version of Complete Susanoo) by molding it into a container.
Before I proceed, it's important to note that Susanoo itself requires an immense amount of CC. This can be easily ascertained by Itachi's shock at Sasuke's use of Susanoo and Madara outright stating that PS is only achieved through the stabilization of Complete Susanoo's Chakra; that itself is a mountainous structure to maintain, hold and control, let alone mold and perfect it further into what Sasuke did:
You must be registered for see images
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For the Bijuus, he pulled out the chakra and amalgamated it perfectly into PS molded into a Mezo structure to feed chakra to his Raiton techs (I will get to this point later). Now, the Sage performed COAT. Sasuke performed the opposite of COAT, but with additional control. This is what Kurama stated in that infamous scene (VIZ Translation, courtesy of my boi, Immortal):
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It isn't far-fetched to assume that "vessel for Susanoo" means exactly that; Sasuke became a kind of pseudo-Jubi-Jin, only without the beasts merged in the manner within the Mezo. As a Jubi Jin is a vessel for the Mezo/Jubi. He didn't pull out their complete chakra either. Who knows what he could have accomplished had he done it. But, we will never know … Curses!
Notice, in the second scan, how Sasuke is "simultaneously" not only performing outer-path pull, but is also kneading, controlling and performing the exact opposite of COAT, but, he is molding his PS to turn into a Mezo as well. That is FOUR tasks in one go. FOUR complex tasks, that not only involve Bijuu chakra but also Rinnegan control and his own chakra control; all to perform a task that is the opposite of COAT!
But, is that all? No. That brings us to the main argument: Sasuke's Chakra Control is something else. Why? Look closely at these scans; coloured and regular:
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What do you see? That's right, that is ALL the merged Bijuu chakra turned into Raiton! All of it. You can easily see the entire Bijuu Chakra, that isn't merged with Mezo-PS in any manner, flowing out of the exposed structures as raw Raiton in all the scans. It's easy to spot as it's forked like Lightning:
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And that's not all; he created a Raiton Sword as well! The scene where he smashed the dull Bunshin down was recreated perfectly in the anime!
You must be registered for see images
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But, does this argument end here? No. Sasuke performed teleportation (as shown in the scan above where he smashed the Bunshin down), Taijutsu and ... Raiton Senbon AND created a whole bow and an arrow (Indra's Arrow) from the same structure: that is several uses of exponentially advanced Physical AND Spatial manipulation/Re-composition seen in the entire manga bar none!
This is what Kakashi states about the arduous task, as once you hand over a kneaded chakra, what's left in the task at hand? Nothing at all other than the tiny end of the monkey's tail; you let the monkey get away!
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As Sasuke is doing all that (and all by himself, unlike a certain someone who receives kneaded chakra after every tiny stumble and during every small task) WHILST maintaining PS-Mezo; a task that was performed in the direct opposition of COAT!
You must be registered for see images
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Thus, Sasuke physically composed the ENTIRE Bijuu chakra into Raiton. Then, he Spatially composed it to determine its shape, scope and strength. He did three Spatial compositions for IA: converted the sword into the end of the bow, create the string of Raiton (and how PRECISE that had to be to launch it at just the right speed; you have to read on bows to even realize the magnitude of this feat) and the Arrow itself. And I am not even counting those Senbons. That’s FOUR complex tasks (Seven if I count shifting chakra management) on CC alone and without the handout of "Universal Grasp of all things; an auto-pilot-Chakra-Control-Mode." Believe it, folks!
That is a hell lot of chakra to manage, control perfectly and launch a devastating attack that overpowered, not one, but two Futon-based attacks. Something Ration is meant to accomplish if it's focused:
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So, yes, Sasuke's CC really is on a level that remains, and will always remain, untouched. Uncle Shelke dazed you kids, didn't he? Bask in the glory that is Sauce-Sama! Let the games begin!
Much sexy. Such wow. So Sasuke!
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Thank you for reading, kids. Don't annoy the uncle as he'll tan your hides red!
Haha, what? The fan-fictions this forum comes up with.
