[Discussion] Who's Alliance is more powerful. Luffy or Kids?

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One side there is kid's alliance :

1> Captain Eustass Kid : Kid have magnetic powers

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- A supernova, Killer

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- That fire breathing guy

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2> Captain Basil Hawkins : Mysterious DF which enables him to escape from even a death blow and can transform into a badass monster

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3> Captain Appo : One side he is able to sneak attack Kizaru and cut him in pieces (duh he is logia) and other side he is scared of pigs (boars) .

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On the other side we have Luffy's alliance :

1> Monkey D. Luffy: Future pirate king trained by the first mate of pirate king

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- A supernova, Roronoa Zoro

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- Sanji and awesome Straw Hat Pirates

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2> Trafalgar Law: A Shichibukai who has one of the most overpowered devil fruit ope ope no mi .

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3> Don't forget Law is planning to rescue his crew from Zou.

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Well from what we've seen the Mugiwara/Heart pirates....but at the same time if you aren't careful Hawkins could end up knocking out your own teammates (I think his power is associated like a Voodoo doll). Plus he has the Cat head person XP!

Too early to say ^.^
 

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One side there is kid's alliance :

1> Captain Eustass Kid : Kid have magnetic powers

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- A supernova, Killer

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- That fire breathing guy

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2> Captain Basil Hawkins : Mysterious DF which enables him to escape from even a death blow and can transform into a badass monster

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3> Captain Appo : One side he is able to sneak attack Kizaru and cut him in pieces (duh he is logia) and other side he is scared of pigs (boars) .

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On the other side we have Luffy's alliance :

1> Monkey D. Luffy: Future pirate king trained by the first mate of pirate king

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- A supernova, Roronoa Zoro

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- Sanji and awesome Straw Hat Pirates

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2> Trafalgar Law: A Shichibukai who has one of the most overpowered devil fruit ope ope no mi .

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3> Don't forget Law is planning to rescue his crew from Zou.

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Kay, first off, Kid is completely powerless under law, scratch one.
Apoo can probably handle the weaker straw hats, but loses to someone with raw speed like zoro or sanji.
Hawkins can apparently see into the future, which can work as color of observation, can take out some of the weaker strawhats.
Zoro can take killer.
Luffy with Gear Third Busoshoku can take out all the grunts from the kid pirates, on air pirates and basil pirates.
Currently, Strawhat side, mid diff.

Edit: Basil can deflect attacks with those dolls, but his only way of attacking without deflecting that we know, is Going Goma No So, which went down pretty easy to kizaru low diff, and he can't deflect law's room, so he might be a tough opponent, if law doesn't face him.
 
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Kay, first off, Kid is completely powerless under law, scratch one.
Apoo can probably handle the weaker straw hats, but loses to someone with raw speed like zoro or sanji.
Hawkins can apparently see into the future, which can work as color of observation, can take out some of the weaker strawhats.
Zoro can take killer.
Luffy with Gear Third Busoshoku can take out all the grunts from the kid pirates, on air pirates and basil pirates.
Currently, Strawhat side, mid diff.

Edit: Basil can deflect attacks with those dolls, but his only way of attacking without deflecting that we know, is Going Goma No So, which went down pretty easy to kizaru low diff, and he can't deflect law's room, so he might be a tough opponent, if law doesn't face him.
Well I think Basil is one of the greatest risks pending his ability. It appears, as I think, to be Voodoo meaning if he gains a hair from any of the Straw Hats or Hearts...he can force Luffy and Company to KO their own people.

One problem is that Franky is basically a moving weapons platform for Kidd so that could be a probleml. The problem is that if Law cuts him up, he still may be able to move and manipulate items. So possibly the combination of using Law's operations and Nami's lightning they can electrocute him if he tries to arm up his body parts. * I realize Nami is nowhere near Kidd...seriously: NOWHERE....my point is possibly through using the clima-tact (assuming Kidd doesn't take it) it could be used against him.*
I think Apoo has problems with Robin and Brook in an ability match up. His powers revolve around playing himself as insturments. The cutting attacks took of limbs mostly at joints whcih Brook should survive, and Robin's power in general would restrain him...preventing him from actually playing himself.

Hawkins I think is either one of the most difficult or simplist (On what we've seen). If he can take Straw Hat/Heart people as his shields...then he's easily the largest obstical: Requiring Sea Stone or Ocean water to defeat! If not, then basically all it requires is someone like Sanji (fire on straw) or Luffy to pummel his lives away.

I think Zoro can match/outmatch Killer X.

This leaves the Heart Pirate subordinates, Ussop, Chopper, and Franky (may face the Kidd pirate's fire breather now that I think about it) to deal with the subordinates of the other crews...which haven't been seen to be strong.


So to summarize...

Law and Nami: Kidd

Robin and/or Brook: Apoo

Sanji and Luffy: Hawkins

Zoro: Killer X

Franky: Fire guy from the Kidd Pirates

Heart Crew, Ussop, Chopper: Kidd, Basil, On Air crews

This also excludes Kinemon and Momonosuke who are technically on board the Mugiwara crew.
 

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Kay, first off, Kid is completely powerless under law, scratch one.
Apoo can probably handle the weaker straw hats, but loses to someone with raw speed like zoro or sanji.
Hawkins can apparently see into the future, which can work as color of observation, can take out some of the weaker strawhats.
Zoro can take killer.
Luffy with Gear Third Busoshoku can take out all the grunts from the kid pirates, on air pirates and basil pirates.
Currently, Strawhat side, mid diff.

Edit: Basil can deflect attacks with those dolls, but his only way of attacking without deflecting that we know, is Going Goma No So, which went down pretty easy to kizaru low diff, and he can't deflect law's room, so he might be a tough opponent, if law doesn't face him.

What the f*ck? Kidd>>>>>Law, let alone luffy. By the time law use room....kidd already has his sword, then what happens after that?
Without the docters scapel, what can he do.....nothing!
 

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The latter because Sanji is low-warlord tier meaning there is a team with 4 warlord tier's against 3 warlord teirs and I choose the team consisted of 4.
 

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What the f*ck? Kidd>>>>>Law, let alone luffy. By the time law use room....kidd already has his sword, then what happens after that?
Without the docters scapel, what can he do.....nothing!
Well with Room and Tact...Law has been seen lifting battleships meaning to some degree they can have some sort of Tug of war with metallic objects let alone whatever non metalic objects Law will throw his way. Even worse could be were Law to catch people with Shambles which may or may not actually require his sword.

I wouldn't push out Law just because he may lose his sword...he has methodes to at least dodge and swap himself with other objects that can be used to fight on equal ground with Kidd.

It's a really fun match up XD!
 

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Well with Room and Tact...Law has been seen lifting battleships meaning to some degree they can have some sort of Tug of war with metallic objects let alone whatever non metalic objects Law will throw his way. Even worse could be were Law to catch people with Shambles which may or may not actually require his sword.

I wouldn't push out Law just because he may lose his sword...he has methodes to at least dodge and swap himself with other objects that can be used to fight on equal ground with Kidd.

It's a really fun match up XD!

Law is not a push over, but he can't beat luffy and especially kidd in my opinion. Law may be able to move him around the circle but he can't slice and dice him, law is not the type who would fight ppl he can not handle.....he uses people. Just like how he said he would steal the thrown of onepiece. When vergo speed blitz law to the face, the only thing law had to use without his sword is counter shock. Even kuma stop law's room with a lazer beam, law is strong but i think kidd has a ridiculously high bounty for a reason. Law killed only a no name hundred pirates and planned more than he trained, while Kidd was trying to pick fights with a yonkou
 

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What the f*ck? Kidd>>>>>Law, let alone luffy. By the time law use room....kidd already has his sword, then what happens after that?
Without the docters scapel, what can he do.....nothing!
Kid's way of attacking is projectiles and gathering metal to form a huge arm. Law can reseperate the parts, and cut the stuff sent at him in half. Law >> Kid. Kid also shows little speed feats, and Law is able to keep up with smoker mid diff, who has proven to be faster than Gear 2 luffy.
 
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