[Discussion] Whole Cake Island Arc bad and good

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Ah ok got it, her devil fruit abilities shouldn't be taken into into account in a fight. Luffy's G4 punch was completely legitimate on the other hand.
Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Only raw strength, her devil fruit powers completely overwhelmed luffy and its clear that his haki wasn't either strong enough to completely resist it or she's so in tune with her devil fruit that Haki doesn't phase her control over her devil fruit.
 

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Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Only raw strength, her devil fruit powers completely overwhelmed luffy and its clear that his haki wasn't either strong enough to completely resist it or she's so in tune with her devil fruit that Haki doesn't phase her control over her devil fruit.
So Luffy isn't using DF his whilst using G4???? so technically G4 isn't Luff's raw strength.....it's either you take DFs completely out of the equation or you leave it in, you can't cherry-pick
 

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So Luffy isn't using DF his whilst using G4???? so technically G4 isn't Luff's raw strength.....it's either you take DFs completely out of the equation or you leave it in, you can't cherry-pick
There is no cherry-picking when Luffy's devil fruit integrated with his physical attributes while Big mam's Df powers are projectile-like. So all those time we've seen luffy used monstrous amount of strength is most likely due to his devil fruit powers, so no one can distinguish between the two.

And don't try to guess what it is either with whatever theory you have because I'm telling you right now that whatever it is, it's 100% wrong.
 

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There is no cherry-picking when Luffy's devil fruit integrated with his physical attributes while Big mam's Df powers are projectile-like. So all those time we've seen luffy used monstrous amount of strength is most likely due to his devil fruit powers, so no one can distinguish between the two.

And don't try to guess what it is either with whatever theory you have because I'm telling you right now that whatever it is, it's 100% wrong.
@B the fuuck are you talking about?? don't tell me what i can/should do biitch

OT: They are not projectiles and yes you are cherry-picking.....in a 1v1 either dfs are allowed or not....and that goes for both the people involved can't be playing this integrated bullshiit
 
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@B the fuuck are you talking about?? don't tell me what i can/should do biitch

OT: They are not projectiles and yes you are cherry-picking.....in a 1v1 either dfs are allowed or not....and that goes for both the people involved can't be playing this integrated bullshiit
You're not understanding what he's saying.. Big Mom's DF doesn't physically effect her body like Luffy's DF does.. raw physical power for Luffy includes his DF based on the anatomy of what his body has now become.. no matter what, his base power now will still be from his DF.. gears or not..

If we go based off your way, then the only way to ever judge Luffy's raw physical power has to be Luffy without a DF.. While Big Mom's physical power can still be scaled whether she has her DF or not.. it's like trying to judge Sugar or Corazon or Brook or any character like that when it comes to physical power.. their DF's have nothing to do with it because it didn't change the anatomy of their body..

You can't say that about characters like Luffy who ate a DF that completely changed how their body works now.. cause for them it is their raw physical strength no matter what.



Understand now?
 

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I haven't read like the past...3 or 4 chapters? My interest for One Piece declined with this arc, last time I felt that way was when I was binge watching this series and got to Skypiea. I'll never drop One Piece as it's one of my fav's but this is probably by far one of my least fav. arcs.

I'll most likely get caught up this week but yeah not happy with how this arc is. That said, Bege/Brook killed it this arc and really rose in my top fav. character list in this series.
 

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I haven't read like the past...3 or 4 chapters? My interest for One Piece declined with this arc, last time I felt that way was when I was binge watching this series and got to Skypiea. I'll never drop One Piece as it's one of my fav's but this is probably by far one of my least fav. arcs.

I'll most likely get caught up this week but yeah not happy with how this arc is. That said, Bege/Brook killed it this arc and really rose in my top fav. character list in this series.
I hear ya man.. trust me.. Brook really did kill it this arc, but I can't wait for you to catch up to the current chapter because a couple other characters are really shining and doing their thing as well.
 
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