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I see a lot of madara solo so i was thinking since manga facts show madara couldn't beat hashirama if he had lived a little longer and wasn't weaked after the last fight with madara. Who would of been better then rinnegan mad or hashi since history says hashi was a step ahead most of the time
 
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I have no idea what you just wrote.
 

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Idk what you mean
 

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If they both obtained Rinnegan in the same exact way, then Hashirama would obviously be far stronger because he was far stronger than Madara prior to all boosts.

SM Hashirama at full power>>SM Hashirama w/ Mokujin=EMS Madara.

Give them the same power boost.

Rinnegan Hashirama at full power>>Rinnegan Madara at full power.
 

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If they both obtained Rinnegan in the same exact way, then Hashirama would obviously be far stronger because he was far stronger than Madara prior to all boosts.

SM Hashirama at full power>>SM Hashirama w/ Mokujin=EMS Madara.

Give them the same power boost.

Rinnegan Hashirama at full power>>Rinnegan Madara at full power.

But hashi wouldn't have rinn.. He just would of had more time to train and get stronger since he wasn't weaked after the last fight because it say after he fought madara he couldn't really move anymore
 

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But hashi wouldn't have rinn.. He just would of had more time to train and get stronger since he wasn't weaked after the last fight because it say after he fought madara he couldn't really move anymore

Oh, I misunderstood the question.

Madara would shit on him then. Time to train isn't going to let him reach the level of power Madara has with both Rinnegan.
 

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Oh, I misunderstood the question.

Madara would shit on him then. Time to train isn't going to let him reach the level of power Madara has with both Rinnegan.

Really?? Because even with the sharingan madara couldn't get it done he did weaking him but i was thinking if hashi could of had time to train he might beable to keep up with rinn mad
 

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Really?? Because even with the sharingan madara couldn't get it done he did weaking him but i was thinking if hashi could of had time to train he might beable to keep up with rinn mad

Nah. Not a chance. He wouldn't even get that much stronger. That was either his prime or near his prime.
 

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Honestly, the fact that the fight ended in close combat of them both using either a weapon or fist shows that they were on the same level. The only way Hashirama won was because he outsmarted Madara and not because of their feats.

So giving Madara the rinengan will make him win.
 

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if Madara was to achieve Rinnegan, then Hashirama would need to have achieved the Asura Avatar to stay on par with Madara. but perhaps not even then, hence that Indra was always "stronger" than Asura by feats.
 

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Honestly, the fact that the fight ended in close combat of them both using either a weapon or fist shows that they were on the same level. The only way Hashirama won was because he outsmarted Madara and not because of their feats.

So giving Madara the rinengan will make him win.

But you just said hashi is smarter then him i know the rinnegan give you more abilities an you get a little stonger but hashi aways found away so that should tell you that he was very smart see that he was fighting mad and nobody use a sharingan better then him
 

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But you just said hashi is smarter then him i know the rinnegan give you more abilities an you get a little stonger but hashi aways found away so that should tell you that he was very smart see that he was fighting mad and nobody use a sharingan better then him

by feats Madara would be stronger
but the "good guy" will always have the plot shield :)
 

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if Madara was to achieve Rinnegan, then Hashirama would need to have achieved the Asura Avatar to stay on par with Madara. but perhaps not even then, hence that Indra was always "stronger" than Asura by feats.

I dont think indra had a rinnegan tho not sure
 

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But you just said hashi is smarter then him i know the rinnegan give you more abilities an you get a little stonger but hashi aways found away so that should tell you that he was very smart see that he was fighting mad and nobody use a sharingan better then him

I was trying to say the reason why it ended in close combat is because both sides exhausted their arsenal, we've seen both of their strongest feat, and yet both Hashirama and Madara survived it, this most likely shows that they were both throwing big moves at each other seeing who would go down first, but that didn't happen. So therefore it resulted in close combat.
 

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by feats Madara would be stronger
but the "good guy" will always have the plot shield :)

But we never got to see if hashi would of got strong if he would of made any new abilities or anything because he was weaked.. I think hashi would handle it better because i think they know more about the sage of six path powers but i really dont know lol
 

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Honestly, the fact that the fight ended in close combat of them both using either a weapon or fist shows that they were on the same level. The only way Hashirama won was because he outsmarted Madara and not because of their feats.

So giving Madara the rinengan will make him win.
Nah. If hashirama had nine tails instead of madara he would've ROFL stomped
 

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Nah. Not a chance. He wouldn't even get that much stronger. That was either his prime or near his prime.

If he could sense or hit limbo he'd win, especially if he won against ems madara and kurama
 
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