[Discussion] who will win now between luffy vs zoro..??
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Mephew D Kensei
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Well considering that this is the internet, u know that place where free thought is not encouraged, I guess Luffy .......(insert here whatever is closer to majority vote)........ diff coz he is captain n what the hell he is stronger(coz he is captain n mc) not like he too has beat down on pple who have been said stronger than him.
For pple like this, who r in close proximity its hard to assertain who wld win(coz u know they arent real) however who the animator may animate winning the fight can b a bit more interesting.
In a Zoro vs Luffy(random generic i.e non specific) fight going by their personalities and their ability relations i wld say by virtue of Zoro being the codescending jerk type of a guy(#those1liners) n the fact that apparently swords r like a diluted version of Kryptonite(how ever its spelt) to luffy coz u know rubber(Luffy) is good vs blunt force n not cutting then his haki got done in by bitting Luffy wld seemingly b the hero underdog and Zoro the Villain n well we all know how it goes.
Luffy the hero wins, n that underdog thing is based on personality and the one only direct relation btwn their fighting styles(remember that before u start typing that what of speed, g3 essay).
Luffy is really not the most undefeatable guy in op even vs pple of his lvl, heck he almost always gets punked twice before he gets a victory over some1 so wld i b fanboying if i said luffy a couple of more times more tham Zoro in a series of matches or Luffy devastating lvl win in the final encounter. If Zoro was mc how wld this go down i wonder?
For pple like this, who r in close proximity its hard to assertain who wld win(coz u know they arent real) however who the animator may animate winning the fight can b a bit more interesting.
In a Zoro vs Luffy(random generic i.e non specific) fight going by their personalities and their ability relations i wld say by virtue of Zoro being the codescending jerk type of a guy(#those1liners) n the fact that apparently swords r like a diluted version of Kryptonite(how ever its spelt) to luffy coz u know rubber(Luffy) is good vs blunt force n not cutting then his haki got done in by bitting Luffy wld seemingly b the hero underdog and Zoro the Villain n well we all know how it goes.
Luffy the hero wins, n that underdog thing is based on personality and the one only direct relation btwn their fighting styles(remember that before u start typing that what of speed, g3 essay).
Luffy is really not the most undefeatable guy in op even vs pple of his lvl, heck he almost always gets punked twice before he gets a victory over some1 so wld i b fanboying if i said luffy a couple of more times more tham Zoro in a series of matches or Luffy devastating lvl win in the final encounter. If Zoro was mc how wld this go down i wonder?
DemonicAvenger
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Indeed, but you're overestimating Hody's bite here. It even had no haki in it :|
I agree with hype and portrayal, but i could argue otherwise featwise, at least yet, considering i think Luffy will pull off better feats while fighting Flamingo
DemonicAvenger
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That's what I was about to say. Haki buffed 3K Worlds is pretty much the only thing that Zoro has over Luffy. (And Logically a H. Kyutoryu Ashura attack would be above that)
I still consider Luffy's H. Elephant Gatling to be better than H. 3K Worlds, but I do remember Zoro matching H. Grizzly Magnum's DC with a base 1080 Pound Phoenix
I still consider Luffy's H. Elephant Gatling to be better than H. 3K Worlds, but I do remember Zoro matching H. Grizzly Magnum's DC with a base 1080 Pound Phoenix
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Well the thing is Luffy only destroyed the superstructure of Noah with his Elephant Gatling move and eventhen, he didn't destroy it cleanly, but more after multiple repetitive moves when Pica's golem that isn't that far apart in size via scaling was actually cut cleanly, so technically the energy dissipation around the 3K World technique is higher(with calculations it's something like 11.5 megatons versus 3megatons).
Not to mention his high end moves(in gear3) have a lag(time preparation) when Zoro's moves are faster cast. The time Luffy takes to pump up his arms and attack leaves him vulnerable to Zoro's long range flying slashes and close range 3K World and other high end moves
But hell yeah i'm really waiting for Luffy to amaze me when he finally crush Doffy and hopefully even the stupid Trebol who does nothing else than just laughing and sitting in the cross-fire
Zoro's cutting ability is higher than Hody's bite. Pica's FBH was hyped to be able to withstand Zoro's cutting ability if he didn't have stronger haki than him and considering Zoro has stronger haki than Pica, do the math. Not to mention it's his specialization(according to Oda) and he trained to cut everything with a mark on his sword being a shame to him, so his COA should logically be sky high compared to Luffy's
Hype doesn't really mean much. Remember the hype of elizabello's king punch being able to knock out a yonko? So, I don't take Pica's hype that much either. I just see it as arrogance and him getting really cocky so once he gets knocked out, it'll be even better. Well yeah, Luffy is weak to sharp objects but that doesn't mean his CoA is weaker than a swordsman like Zoro. We don't know how strong Pica's FBH was either.
DemonicAvenger
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Luffy definitely didn't destroy it, he destroyed just a small part of it.
Pica isn't anywhere near the size of Noah either. Noah was half the size of Fishman Island while Pica was still much smaller than Dressrosa, logically Zoro would look anywhere near this big if Pica was an Island anyway [
Its basically comparing Luffy who can take a decent chunk out of half an Island and Zoro who can dice up a large Mountain. Considering how Pica was much smaller than Dressrosa, I think its safe to assumed that Luffy had the better feat DC-wise (Although Zoro's attacks are much more concentrated. It would probably end up being like a larger scale version the old days if they clash [
Pica isn't anywhere near the size of Noah either. Noah was half the size of Fishman Island while Pica was still much smaller than Dressrosa, logically Zoro would look anywhere near this big if Pica was an Island anyway [
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's another scan of his top half only being about as big as the Colleseum. Its basically comparing Luffy who can take a decent chunk out of half an Island and Zoro who can dice up a large Mountain. Considering how Pica was much smaller than Dressrosa, I think its safe to assumed that Luffy had the better feat DC-wise (Although Zoro's attacks are much more concentrated. It would probably end up being like a larger scale version the old days if they clash [
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I'm hoping for him to use Haki with Gomu Gomu no Storm (Fitting since Doffy and Croc have beef). It would be cool if he brought back GnG Battle Axe too
Well i tried to scale this shit
Size of fishmen island and Noah
1- Right side we have a door compared to 1/2 Luffy(87m)
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And left side the door compared to the height of that tower section. It gives the result of 135.8m for that tower section
2- Right side we have the tower section compared to width of the whole palace
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Middle part, we have the width of that whole palace(in yellow) compared to the upper and lower bubble's diamater(englobing Fishmen island)
And finally fishmen island compared to the width and height of noah. Results give 3135.6m and 1932.9m respectively
Pica's size
A- Coloseum
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1- Upper right we have the windows' height at 5.5m
2- Upper left, using the windows' height as a basis(punk), we can get the screen's width(87m)
3- Bottom right using the screen's width(blue) we can get the diameter of the coloseum(1571.6m)
4- Using the diameter, we can get the length of the coloseum(2421m)
B- Plateau and Pica
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1- Right panel, knowing the length of the coloseum(2421m), we can get the size of that section of the plateau represented in green(3301.36m)
2- Left panel, knowing the size of that section of the plateau, we can get the upper section of Pica's width(4839m) and length(5698m)
What do you think?
If Zoro's haki is 'sky high' compared to Luffy and the higher your haki the higher the physical damage output so does that mean that a hakiefied punch from Zoro would hurt more than one from Luffy?
Since their physical strength is roughly equal it should right? The tought of that is actually preposterous
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