Who was crazier Madara or (EMS/Rinnegan War arc) Sasuke?

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Both of them was crazy and irrational, but who could think more rationally, between them? My money is on Madara, his plan, although crazy could actually work. Rinnegan War Arc Sasuke's plan on other hand probably would not work, having take on everything by himself like that, all the time wouldn't work IMHO.
 

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Sasuke's Revolution plan was solid and proven to work in series.

He based his plan on the history of the Shinobi World & Itachi's life. He wanted to eliminate the major sources of conflict (Biju, seperated villages) by ultlizing a method that had proven to ensure unity amongst them.

Throughout history, Shinobi always sought after the Biju's power so they could use them to better ensure their authority over others. This led up to an entire war with the world at stake being fought over them.



He wanted to eliminate them so no one would ever fight over & abuse their power again.

The Five Great Shinobi Villages united for the first time in history only because they had a common enemy that they couldn't possibly defeat alone - the Akatsuki, under the command of Uchiha Madara, who had gathered 7 of the 9 Biju and were aiming for the last 2.

With the Akatsuki gone, Sasuke believed that the villages would eventually separate and go back to fighting one another. To prevent that, he was going to be the common enemy that kept them united.



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Everyone could live in peace, they just know that there's a god-like being who could/would strike them down if they cause trouble. Would the average citizen be scared of Sasuke, or criminals?

Sasuke was going to be the only one of the darkness, so no one else had to. Taking on everyone's hatred, so they wouldn't hate each other. Protecting from the shadows, as Itachi did, except on a larger scale.


- Uniting everyone through a common enemy was shown to work via the Akatsuki with the Five Great Shinobi Villages & Samurai. Plus during the warring states era Madara was said to have used his power to unite clans.

This/the next page.



- Maintaining peace and order by being a God-like authoritive figure was shown to work via Pain with the Rain village. Kaguya was also stated to have subdued all lands.



- & Itachi protecting from the shadows by playing the role of villian, taking the blame & bearing everyone's hatred avoided a potential civil war with the Uchiha against Konoha, and potential world war with other nations.

Sasuke learned from his predecessors & improved. Ultimately forming a better plan for peace than them.

Whereas Hashirama and Naruto's plan of cooperation through friendship was proven to not work via Hashirama creating peace through the village system but things going sour after his death.

Meanwhile, Sasuke had the capability/ambition to always be around to watch over the world.



Although Naruto's plan is better than Hashirama's cause he has Sasuke on his side. After convincing him to work with their allies. Now Sasuke is protecting from the shadows by going on covert missions to gather information & only became an enemy to the criminal underworld to subdue them.

 
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Sasuke's Revolution plan was solid and proven to work in series.

He based his plan on the history of the Shinobi World & Itachi's life. He wanted to eliminate the major sources of conflict (Biju, seperated villages) by ultlizing a method that had proven to ensure unity amongst them.

Throughout history, Shinobi always sought after the Biju's power so they could use them to better ensure their authority over others. This led up to an entire war with the world at stake being fought over them.



He wanted to eliminate them so no one would ever fight over & abuse their power again.

The Five Great Shinobi Villages united for the first time in history only because they had a common enemy that they couldn't possibly defeat alone - the Akatsuki, under the command of Uchiha Madara, who had gathered 7 of the 9 Biju and were aiming for the last 2.

With the Akatsuki gone, Sasuke believed that the villages would eventually separate and go back to fighting one another. To prevent that, he was going to be the common enemy that kept them united.



This/the next page.





This/the next page.



Everyone could live in peace, they just know that there's a god-like being who could/would strike them down if they cause trouble. Would the average citizen be scared of Sasuke, or criminals?

Sasuke was going to be the only one of the darkness, so no one else had to. Taking on everyone's hatred, so they wouldn't hate each other. Protecting from the shadows, as Itachi did, except on a larger scale.


- Uniting everyone through a common enemy was shown to work via the Akatsuki with the Five Great Shinobi Villages & Samurai. Plus during the warring states era Madara was said to have used his power to unite clans.

This/the next page.



- Maintaining peace and order by being a God-like authoritive figure was shown to work via Pain with the Rain village. Kaguya was also stated to have subdued all lands.



- & Itachi protecting from the shadows by playing the role of villian, taking the blame & bearing everyone's hatred avoided a potential civil war with the Uchiha against Konoha, and potential world war with other nations.

Sasuke learned from his predecessors & improved. Ultimately forming a better plan for peace than them.

Whereas Hashirama and Naruto's plan of cooperation through friendship was proven to not work via Hashirama creating peace through the village system but things going sour after his death.

Meanwhile, Sasuke had the capability/ambition to always be around to watch over the world.



Although Naruto's plan is better than Hashirama's cause he has Sasuke on his side. After convincing him to work with their allies. Now Sasuke is protecting from the shadows by going on covert missions to gather information & only became an enemy to the criminal underworld to subdue them.

meh....cooperation >>> fear
 

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It's almost 2019 and people still think Sasuke isn't right to seek justice against a genocide.

And Madara isn't crazy. He just took extreme measures. He had justification and logical thinking behind everything.

#shame
 

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meh....cooperation >>> fear

Their fear of Sasuke would led to cooperation & he could always be around to ensure it. Aside from this series, other series prove that his plan was solid aswell.

As Kira, Light Yagami of Death Note reduced the world's crime rate by 70 percent in 5 years. By being a god-like authoritive figure killing criminals. Furthermore, perhaps my favorite example is from Kingdom where how to achieve and maintain peace is a major topic. In that series, which is based on the real world, there isn't a ruler who is powerful enough to watch over the world for long periods of time, but there is something that can govern throughout all time. Which has been effective for many centuries so far. Can you guess what that is? Read chapters 488 & 489.



LAW! Sasuke would essentially be the law, or to be more precise, the one who enforces it! Fear? Lol, yes! Fear is the perfect solution. Why don't you rob stores and banks? ) 1) Because you're not an asshole - and 2) because you do not want to go to jail.. Because people fear punishment, they don't breaks the law. Law is what maintains order in our world and all these fictional worlds.
 
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Sasuke's Revolution plan was solid and proven to work in series.

He based his plan on the history of the Shinobi World & Itachi's life. He wanted to eliminate the major sources of conflict (Biju, seperated villages) by ultlizing a method that had proven to ensure unity amongst them.

Throughout history, Shinobi always sought after the Biju's power so they could use them to better ensure their authority over others. This led up to an entire war with the world at stake being fought over them.



He wanted to eliminate them so no one would ever fight over & abuse their power again.

The Five Great Shinobi Villages united for the first time in history only because they had a common enemy that they couldn't possibly defeat alone - the Akatsuki, under the command of Uchiha Madara, who had gathered 7 of the 9 Biju and were aiming for the last 2.

With the Akatsuki gone, Sasuke believed that the villages would eventually separate and go back to fighting one another. To prevent that, he was going to be the common enemy that kept them united.



This/the next page.





This/the next page.



Everyone could live in peace, they just know that there's a god-like being who could/would strike them down if they cause trouble. Would the average citizen be scared of Sasuke, or criminals?

Sasuke was going to be the only one of the darkness, so no one else had to. Taking on everyone's hatred, so they wouldn't hate each other. Protecting from the shadows, as Itachi did, except on a larger scale.


- Uniting everyone through a common enemy was shown to work via the Akatsuki with the Five Great Shinobi Villages & Samurai. Plus during the warring states era Madara was said to have used his power to unite clans.

This/the next page.



- Maintaining peace and order by being a God-like authoritive figure was shown to work via Pain with the Rain village. Kaguya was also stated to have subdued all lands.



- & Itachi protecting from the shadows by playing the role of villian, taking the blame & bearing everyone's hatred avoided a potential civil war with the Uchiha against Konoha, and potential world war with other nations.

Sasuke learned from his predecessors & improved. Ultimately forming a better plan for peace than them.

Whereas Hashirama and Naruto's plan of cooperation through friendship was proven to not work via Hashirama creating peace through the village system but things going sour after his death.

Meanwhile, Sasuke had the capability/ambition to always be around to watch over the world.



Although Naruto's plan is better than Hashirama's cause he has Sasuke on his side. After convincing him to work with their allies. Now Sasuke is protecting from the shadows by going on covert missions to gather information & only became an enemy to the criminal underworld to subdue them.


Nah, given the incoming threats of aliens, the world would be fucked. If Kaguya was amassing a planet's population worth of zetsu clones. Something big was coming.
 

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Their fear of Sasuke would led to cooperation & he could always be around to ensure it. Aside from this series, other series prove that his plan was solid aswell.

As Kira, Light Yagami of Death Note reduced the world's crime rate by 70 percent in 5 years. By being a god-like authorities figure killing criminals. Furthermore, perhaps my favorite example is from Kingdom where how to achieve and maintain peace is a major topic. In that series, which is based on the real world, there isn't an ruler who is powerful enough to watch over the world for long periods of time, but there is something that can govern the world throughout all time. Which has been effective for many centuries so far. Can you guess what that is? Read chapters 488 & 489.



LAW! Sasuke would essentially be the law, or to be more precise, the one who enforces it! Fear? Lol, yes! Fear is the perfect solution. Why don't you rob stores and banks? ) 1) Because you're not an asshole - and 2) because you do not want to go to jail.. Because people fear punishment, they don't breaks the law. Law is what maintains order in our world and all these fictional worlds.

the law doesn't stop crimes from being committed tho...as long as 1 person is a casualty then sasuke's retarded plan would never have worked...in fact it would have started EVEN MORE revolutions...no one likes a dictator
 

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that is the root of all problems

In cooperation, sooner or later, someone comes who wants to "take more" than the others, thus ruining the cooperation. Cooperation out of fear of something more threatening, on the other hand, eliminates that.

The best of all would be collaboration, though.
 

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Not exactly. His job is being a soldier. And he has fun doing it. Nothing more nothing less.

yep, this is being crazy. You are not supposed to like killing people. Anyone who does so, is crazy to me.

None the less i really loved Madara
 

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yep, this is being crazy. You are not supposed to like killing people. Anyone who does so, is crazy to me.

None the less i really loved Madara

Murder is different from fighting in a battlefield.

And yeah Madara is one of the best characters out there
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Nah, given the incoming threats of aliens, the world would be fucked. If Kaguya was amassing a planet's population worth of zetsu clones. Something big was coming.

His plan was about maintaining peace in the Shinobi world. Otherwordly threats are something else.

the law doesn't stop crimes from being committed tho...as long as 1 person is a casualty then sasuke's retarded plan would never have worked...in fact it would have started EVEN MORE revolutions...no one likes a dictator

What's retarded is your logic. Ofcourse the law doesn't stop every bad activity, but it sure does reduce it. Without it the world would be in chaos. By your logic, because people are still harmed, having laws are "retarded".
 
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