Who was better as a villain?

[Retsu]

Pain is a better character overall.

Madara's character is a joke, he's just powerful.

This here. I'll never forget the wifi susanoo. Ppl who vote maddy only care about explosions in action movies with no focus on the plot.

 

[Amenotejikara]

plot: pain
fanservice: madara

 

[JStar King]

This here. I'll never forget the wifi susanoo. Ppl who vote maddy only care about explosions in action movies with no focus on the plot.

Why do you assume that? I'm just interested in Madara's story and goals; because he thought the world was a living hell. So, in order to stop the world from being a hell hole, he chose to take matters into his own hand. The man lost everything and he chose to inact the plan he created.

Plus, his philosophy is pure wisdom along with Itachi's. His story and hype was just pure badass. That's why I chose him over Pein. Madara was built up so perfectly.

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[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Just another shallow elitist Uchiha power fantasy whose motivations were piggybacking off the previous villains'. He had no development, turned pantomime evil over the course of one chapter and has no interesting relationship to any of the main cast.

He was an irrelevant museum piece bit of lore who was ruined and then given center stage.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Just another shallow elitist Uchiha power fantasy whose motivations were piggybacking off the previous villains'. He had no development, turned pantomime evil over the course of one chapter and has no interesting relationship to any of the main cast.

He was an irrelevant museum piece bit of lore who was ruined and then given center stage.

Yet you wank Kabuto to no end in sight.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Yet you wank Kabuto to no end in sight.

Kabuto had a little more going on upstairs bud.

Ever since Part 1 there's insane development and a much more interesting backstory/personality made him less of an archetype, more an actual flawed character.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

...Also when have I ever wanked Kabuto? He's a favourite.

I talk about him as a character subjectively. Way to swing & miss.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Yet you wank Kabuto to no end in sight.

Yes he does.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Yes he does.

Judging characters by power levels is for kids. Like Madara's appeal! (Sorry for offending your anime character, jutsu aren't everything)

 

[salamander uchiha]

Judging characters by power levels is for kids. Like Madara's appeal! (Sorry for offending your anime character, jutsu aren't everything)

I liked Madara for his ideals among many other things, if it was about jutsu then there are plenty more characters to choose from.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I liked Madara for his ideals among many other things, if it was about jutsu then there are plenty more characters to choose from.

I'm glad you get more out of him than I do but I was a huge Madara fan before 2012. His elitism was tired and his motivation was lifted from Obito's with the usual uchiha arrogance thrown in there. 'Wanking' doesn't work as an insult when Kabuto isn't a power fantasy character. Madara is, he's spectacle.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Pain no contest. Even obito and sasuke were a better villain than madara and they turned good in the end.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Kabuto had a little more going on upstairs bud.

Ever since Part 1 there's insane development and a much more interesting backstory/personality made him less of an archetype, more an actual flawed character.

Sure he did, kiddo.

lol @ bold. Just Stop. Less obvious =/= superior. You need substance and neither of them has it but atleast maddy relied on hype and lived up to it. something Kabuto, war arc-Orochi, edo hokages failed at.

To your following post, Not sure but when it comes to you it usually comes down a cringed contrarian approach or a histrionic disorder, either way even if I swing-and miss i'd still get a home run.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Sure he did, kiddo.

lol @ bold. Just Stop. Less obvious =/= superior. You need substance and neither of them has it but atleast maddy relied on hype and lived up to it. something Kabuto, war arc-Orochi, edo hokages failed at.

To your following post, Not sure but when it comes to you it usually comes down a cringed contrarian approach or a histrionic disorder, either way even if I swing-and miss i'd still get a home run.

Kabuto changed. Maddy did not. Kabuto's backstory make sense. Madara's is intensely forced. He did not deliver hype, he fell flat. To some when he became the main villain, to some when he was reanimated. I'm definitely the latter, got let down hard when Madara had some great mythos to him.

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If you want to stop talking down to me and getting personal over anime any time? That'd be great. Many people dislike the Uchiha for these reasons I list. Christ.

 

[Kakooli]

Madara/Tobidara ofc! Real villains don't get talk no jutsu'd.....

 

[chaos control]

Madara all the way!