Who trained harder?? : Naruto Uzumaki OR Sasuke Uchiwa????????

[lndra]

Kid Sasuke trained day and night to catch up to Itachi are you seriously saying he didn't?

That's the whole reason he was at the top of his academy class cause he trained while Naruto ran around doing nothing and training only when its convenient to him. Atleast as kids this was the case.

Even as adults a singular Naruto didn't have to really train hard due to the fact he has shadow clones.

Sasuke trained up until MS afterwards he didn't need it, atleast from his pov.

Kid Naruto didn't train.... :lol

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[To Whatever]

Sasuke wanted to kill Itachi. I'm sorry. Sasuke went OD in his training during those 3 years. Dude had the best medical care on stand by if over train himself.....Kabuto & karin.

That Kirin jutsu is not something that can be easily learned and done on the first 3 tries.

Liked I said before. Sasuke and Naruto trained hard in their own ways. Sasuke had a better reason than Naruto though. Train hard to kill itachi or die PERIOD. That right there tell you that Sasuke wasn't sitting around chilling for the some drug experiment from Dr. Snake.

And nearly all of Naruto's training was "karate kid training". Play with the waterballon....hit the water...hit the water. All of Naruto's training was mapped out for him.

Come on...again, y'all trying to downplay Sasuke. But that's kool. The manga is about Naruto..

1. I'm not saying his training was chilling with a vile of enhancement drugs. It was more like enhancements + training hard as hell. I'm sure at that point he did not care what happened to him (more or less) so long as he killed Itachi.

2. I'm not sure how i'm downplaying him, he worked and trained hard. You're misunderstanding. Naruto is not as smart as Sasuke or talented in regards of how fast he picks up things (by himself) despite having potential as high if not greater than him. Because of that he has to ask for guidance from others, take his time and work hard whether it's something as simple as popping a balloon or climbing trees, all the way to more difficult things such as rasenshuriken. he overworks throughout the day and night.

 

[Dantee]

1. I'm not saying his training was chilling with a vile of enhancement drugs. It was more like enhancements + training hard as hell. I'm sure at that point he did not care what happened to him (more or less) so long as he killed Itachi.

2. I'm not sure how i'm downplaying him, he worked and trained hard. You're misunderstanding. Naruto is not as smart as Sasuke or talented in regards of how fast he picks up things (by himself) despite having potential as high if not greater than him. Because of that he has to ask for guidance from others, take his time and work hard whether it's something as simple as popping a balloon or climbing trees, to more difficult things such as rasenshuriken, he overworks throughout the day to night.

:lol: Is she really still saying Sasuke used drugs despite having no evidence and given evidence of the latter.Jesus christ Nips is ignorant as they come.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Oh look. Another member who has no idea what he's talking about.

says the Necromancer :sdo:

The reincarnation cycle speaks for itself.

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OT: Naruto did without a doubt.

Naruto almost started from scratch while Sasuke had a platform (Sharnigan) to build off of and expand.

Here's my final say on the matter.

Sasuke and Naruto trained equally hard. The difference is that Sasuke's natural talent made that training more efficient, making him stronger. Because of that, Naruto had to supplement the difference with Kurama's power.

That is my final say.

The sages words about reincarnation does imply Indra had the edge but it also implied he only caught up because he had massive help. I.e in narutos case Kurama.

Its funny to see the above shits.

Naruto isn't ashura.

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If naruto had to use kurama to match sasuke then why did sasuke use 9 bijuus to fight on par against Naruto yet he lost the battle?

Sasuke got CM,MS,EMS and Rinnegan from multiple persons without any effort while naruto trained for SM and KCM.

Obviously it implies that sasuke is much weaker than naruto.

EMS Madara was weaker than Hashirama and he had to use kyuubi to fight against hashirama.Hashirama was the victor.

Rinnegan Sasuke is weaker than Naruto and he had to use 9 bijuus to fight against Naruto.Naruto is the victor.Despite the fact that naruto didn't want to kill sasuke while hashirama had the intent to kill madara.

Kishi loves paralells.Naruto vs Sasuke VOTE 2 resembles with Hashi vs madara VOTE fight.

 

[Gerkak]

Kid Naruto didn't train.... :lol

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That was kishi retcon right there, it doesn't make sense for naruto to be so behind in the beginning of the series if he had trained since he started the academy. After part 1 started naruto improved by leaps and bounds it is clear that he barely trained before and was mostly doing pranks.

 

[WalksInShadows]

I never said that. But you made sound like he didn't train as much during those 3 years as if he only trained every once in a while during those 3 years.

first off all, that's exactly what you said:

Sasuke only lived during those time to train to kill Itachi. Nothing else!

Secondly, i didn't make it sound like anything. You interpreted what i said to fit your own narrative and ran with it.

Lmao. You're trying hard to compare Narutos 1 weeks FRS training to Sasuke going away for 3 years but it's not working. We've seen how far Sasuke would go to get some good training in but since we've only seen Naruto train he automatically trained the hardest. I'm not buying it. Just look at the skill level Sasuke acquired.

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given the fact that you're one of the biggest Sasuke marks and Naruto haters i've ever known, so i'm not surprised that you don't buy it. You're here hyping up Sasuke beating up hired goons like he just defeated a well trained army. Kid Minato could've beat those guys, so that's not quite the accomplishment you want to believe it is. The

and that's without a 1000 demon fox or the force of nature enhancing his strength and senses.

yeah, like having 2 other characters' powers at that point did nothing for Sasuke. You're only playing yourself here.

Kishi even wrote in the DB his hobby was training so how can someone who loves training not train?? LMao.

the sad part here is that the thread is about which of the 2 put more effort into their training, yet you're still bringing up hobbies and the length of time someone spent training. As usual, you just keep establishing how far you'll go to hype up Sasuke while downplaying Naruto.

 

[Dantee]

says the Necromancer :sdo:






Its funny to see the above shits.

Naruto isn't ashura.

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If naruto had to use kurama to match sasuke then why did sasuke use 9 bijuus to fight on par against Naruto yet he lost?

Obviously it implies that sasuke is much weaker than naruto.

EMS Madara was weaker than Hashirama and he had to use kyuubi to fight against hashirama.Hashirama was the victor.

Rinnegan Sasuke is weaker than naruto and he had to use 9 bijuus to fight against naruto.Naruto is the victor.

Kishi loves paralells.Naruto vs Sasuke VOTE 2 resembles with Hashi vs madara VOTE fight.

You aren't making sense because Sasuke had to use his rinnegan to capture the 9 bijuu. He didn't fight along side them, nor did he take their advice.

While Naruto fought along side one.
Regarding the sages word exactly was that Naruto reminded him of Ashura because of his talentless and needing help from others.

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What you posted doesn't go against the sages words because that's true. Sasuke also didn't have alot of his path abilities figured out and didn't have sword.,while fighting naruto so both were nerfed. Not sure what this has to do with the thread when we're talking about training.

Don't take it to heart when someone says Naruto has kurama for help just because it's true.

 

[Nagi]

1. I'm not saying his training was chilling with a vile of enhancement drugs. It was more like enhancements + training hard as hell. I'm sure at that point he did not care what happened to him (more or less) so long as he killed Itachi.

2. I'm not sure how i'm downplaying him, he worked and trained hard. You're misunderstanding. Naruto is not as smart as Sasuke or talented in regards of how fast he picks up things despite having potential as high if not greater than him. Because of that he has to ask for guidance from others, take his time and work hard whether it's something as simple as popping a balloon or climbing trees, to more difficult things such as rasenshuriken, he overworks throughout the day to night.

lol. "throughout the day to night"....LOL

that rasen shuriken training...That was 3 days or less. If that option was possible for Sasuke, he would've done the same.

Sage training..that was like a week of training? If that option was possible for Sasuke, he would've done the same.

Chakra training....that was like 2 weeks or less? If Sasuke had a tail beasts in him and that option was possible for him, he would've done the same.

Now let's look at this.. Naruto become greatly stronger after each those short short very short period of intense training. Sasuke trained for 3 years. But naruto surpassed him after the sage training. Do you see the plot-no-jutu shit here?

Basically Sasuke reached his physical limit after those 3 years of training. He just need and I'll try to quote black zetsu "Sasuke has the skills. Give him the tool or power, he will produce better result".

Meaning, Sasuke did all the training possible to become physical stronger.

Naruto had plot-no-jutsu on his side of the training.

 

[To Whatever]

:lol: Is she really still saying Sasuke used drugs despite having no evidence and given evidence of the latter.Jesus christ Nips is ignorant as they come.

You just said sasuke took anti-biotics

lol. "throughout the day to night"....LOL

that rasen shuriken training...That was 3 days or less. If that option was possible for Sasuke, he would've done the same.

Sage training..that was like a week of training? If that option was possible for Sasuke, he would've done the same.

Chakra training....that was like 2 weeks or less? If Sasuke had a tail beasts in him and that option was possible for him, he would've done the same.

Now let's look at this.. Naruto become greatly stronger after each those short short very short period of intense training. Sasuke trained for 3 years. But naruto surpassed him after the sage training. Do you see the plot-no-jutu shit here?

Basically Sasuke reached his physical limit after those 3 years of training. He just need and I'll try to quote black zetsu "Sasuke has the skills. Give him the tool or power, he will produce better result".

Meaning, Sasuke did all the training possible to become physical stronger.

Naruto had plot-no-jutsu on his side of the training.

Naruto condensed years of training into a few days and even then the tech wasn't perfected.

That required a lot from him.

 

[Nagi]

says the Necromancer :sdo:






Its funny to see the above shits.

Naruto isn't ashura.

You must be registered for see images

If naruto had to use kurama to match sasuke then why did sasuke use 9 bijuus to fight on par against Naruto yet he lost the battle?

Obviously it implies that sasuke is much weaker than naruto.

EMS Madara was weaker than Hashirama and he had to use kyuubi to fight against hashirama.Hashirama was the victor.

Rinnegan Sasuke is weaker than Naruto and he had to use 9 bijuus to fight against Naruto.Naruto is the victor.Despite the fact that naruto didn't want to kill sasuke while hashirama had the intent to kill madara.

Kishi loves paralells.Naruto vs Sasuke VOTE 2 resembles with Hashi vs madara VOTE fight.

Dude.. naruto is far physical stronger than Sasuke. Sasuke reached his physical limit after 3 years of training. No more room for him to grow in that area. That's where his spiritual area got plenty of room to grow(MS, EMS, rinnegan).

It is like you expect Batman to match superman's strength. You gonna use shit around you to even the playing field. So Sasuke had to use 9 bijuus to even the playing field with Naruto.

You gotta be a fool to not see that and respect that.

Naruto condensed years of training into a few days and even then the tech wasn't perfected.

That required a lot from him.

Yeah a lot from him. If that methods was offered to Sasuke, he would've done the same too. Y'all making it sound like Naruto killed himself to learn these while Sasuke didn't kill himself to learn whatever he want. If plot-no-jutsu offered the same methods to Sasuke, he would've taken them and handle it just like Naruto or better due to being a prodigy and have a reason to not fail.

You get my point now ?

 

[Dantee]

first off all, that's exactly what you said:

Secondly, i didn't make it sound like anything. You interpreted what i said to fit your own narrative and ran with it.


given the fact that you're one of the biggest Sasuke marks and Naruto haters i've ever known, so i'm not surprised that you don't buy it. You're here hyping up Sasuke beating up hired goons like he just defeated a well trained army. Kid Minato could've beat those guys, so that's not quite the accomplishment you want to believe it is. The

yeah, like having 2 other characters' powers at that point did nothing for Sasuke. You're only playing yourself here.



the sad part here is that the thread is about which of the 2 put more effort into their training, yet you're still bringing up hobbies and the length of time someone spent training. As usual, you just keep establishing how far you'll go to hype up Sasuke while downplaying Naruto.

Not even downplaying Naruto but you're sayingKid Minato can recreate this feat? Lmao yh sure. Naruto only trained for a month tops to gain SM,KCM, Rasenshuriken but naruto faps gotta say that tops Sasukes years worth of training because "effort". This is not even a debate anymore, you guys lost your common sense.

 

[Aznkidd]

Dude.. naruto is far physical stronger than Sasuke. Sasuke reached his physical limit after 3 years of training. No more room for him to grow in that area. That's where his spiritual area got plenty of room to grow(MS, EMS, rinnegan).

It is like you expect Batman to match superman's strength. You gonna use shit around you to even the playing field. So Sasuke had to use 9 bijuus to even the playing field with Naruto.

You gotta be a fool to not see that and respect that.



Yeah a lot from him. If that methods was offered to Sasuke, he would've done the same too. Y'all making it sound like Naruto killed himself to learn these while Sasuke didn't kill himself to learn whatever he want. If plot-no-jutsu offered the same methods to Sasuke, he would've taken them and handle it just like Naruto or better due to being a prodigy and have a reason to not fail.

You get my point now ?

your manga level is still low as usual.....
even Kakashi cant do it, how can Sasuke do it ????

 

[Nagi]

Not even downplaying Naruto but you're sayingKid Minato can recreate this feat? Lmao yh sure. Naruto only trained for a month tops to gain SM,KCM, Rasenshuriken but naruto faps gotta say that tops Sasukes years worth of training because "effort". This is not even a debate anymore, you guys lost your common sense.

RIGHT LOL. If plot-no-jutsu offered the same training methods to Sasuke, he would've done it too and probably better due to be a prodigy and have a reason to not fail. That's what the naruto fans ain't seeing.

 

[The Necromancer]

RIGHT LOL. If plot-no-jutsu offered the same training methods to Sasuke, he would've done it too and probably better due to be a prodigy and have a reason to not fail. That's what the naruto fans ain't seeing.

Exactly.

SM > CM
KCM > MS
BM > EMS
9 Bijuu + Gudoudama > Rinnegan + Advanced Shunshin

Yet Sasuke was even through it all. That's how handicaps work, kids.

 

[Nagi]

your manga level is still low as usual.....
even Kakashi cant do it, how can Sasuke do it ????

Do what? The shadow clone training? umm Sasuke can do it, but it won't be as many shadow clones as naruto's. But it would produce some type of good result for him.The only training method Sasuke wouldn't be able to do is the chakra mode training since he don't got a pet with unlimited chakra within him.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

You aren't making sense because Sasuke had to use his rinnegan to capture the 9 bijuu. He didn't fight along side them, nor did he take their advice.

While Naruto fought along side one.
Regarding the sages word exactly was that Naruto reminded him of Ashura because of his talentless and needing help from others.

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What you posted doesn't go against the sages words because that's true. Sasuke also didn't have alot of his path abilities figured out and didn't have sword.,while fighting naruto so both were nerfed. Not sure what this has to do with the thread when we're talking about training.

Don't take it to heart when someone says Naruto has kurama for help just because it's true.

Naruto didn't inherit the potential of his parents because they were not there for Naruto unlike ashura who had his father.Naruto learned quickly and perfectly almost everything which Minato had learnt.

Kyuubi was sealed in naruto without his consent and we can say that naruto needed kyuubi as Minato was the one who sealed kyuubi in him in the first place.Part 1 Naruto's chakra control was poor just because of Kyuubi's interruptions and Naruto had to use much more chakra than usual to perform his techniques.

On the other hand,Sasuke asked Obito to implant itachi's MS.


Kyuubi rarely give advises to Naruto.Naruto cant seal off kyuubi's mouth permanently.Its not like Naruto asks for kyuubi to help him with his advises.

Sasuke left the konoha in order to train to get powerful because he was jealous of naruto's prowess.Sasuke had to needed the help of CM to fight Itachi and He needed the the help of itachi's MS to awake EMS.

No matter how you look at the things but it is remain a fact that kyuubi is a tool of naruto just like itachi's eyes and hagoromo's gifted rinnegan are sasuke's tools.

 

[To Whatever]

Dude.. naruto is far physical stronger than Sasuke. Sasuke reached his physical limit after 3 years of training. No more room for him to grow in that area. That's where his spiritual area got plenty of room to grow(MS, EMS, rinnegan).

It is like you expect Batman to match superman's strength. You gonna use shit around you to even the playing field. So Sasuke had to use 9 bijuus to even the playing field with Naruto.

You gotta be a fool to not see that and respect that.



Yeah a lot from him. If that methods was offered to Sasuke, he would've done the same too. Y'all making it sound like Naruto killed himself to learn these while Sasuke didn't kill himself to learn whatever he want. If plot-no-jutsu offered the same methods to Sasuke, he would've taken them and handle it just like Naruto or better due to being a prodigy and have a reason to not fail.

You get my point now ?

But it didn't and he's not the Mc. i'm not saying Sasuke didn't kill himself. He just didn't train as hard. It's not even that much of a difference to be crying about tbh.


Lee out trained them both off effort alone.

 

[Dantee]

Naruto didn't inherit the potential of his parents because they were not there for Naruto unlike ashura who had his father.Naruto learned quickly and perfectly almost everything which Minato had learnt.

Sasuke left the konoha in order to train to get powerful because he was jealous of naruto's prowess.Sasuke had to needed the help of CM to fight Itachi and He needed the the help of itachi's MS to awake EMS.

No matter how you look at the things but it is remain a fact that kyuubi is a tool of naruto just like itachi's eyes and hagoromo's gifted rinnegan are sasuke's tools.

Kyuubi rarely give advises to Naruto.Naruto cant seal off kyuubi's mouth permanently.Its not like naruto asks for kyuubi to help him with his advises.

Bruh Sasuke left because of ITachi stop the bs dude. Kyuubi gives him that powerful chakra to match Sasuke. MS is incomplete, ITachi eyes are the definition of a tool because the owner is dead and it's only a weapon. NAruto is talentless deal with it, that's how the story goes one has talent and good genes. one is abandoned and finds his way with the cooperation of others.

 

[Aznkidd]

But it didn't and he's not the Mc. i'm not saying Sasuke didn't kill himself. He just didn't train as hard. It's not even that much of a difference to be crying about tbh.


Lee out trained them both off effort alone.

Sasuke can not execute that training...

 

[Nagi]

Naruto didn't inherit the potential of his parents because they were not there for Naruto unlike ashura who had his father.Naruto learned quickly and perfectly almost everything which Minato had learnt.

Sasuke left the konoha in order to train to get powerful because he was jealous of naruto's prowess.Sasuke had to needed the help of CM to fight Itachi and He needed the the help of itachi's MS to awake EMS.

No matter how you look at the things but it is remain a fact that kyuubi is a tool of naruto just like itachi's eyes and hagoromo's gifted rinnegan are sasuke's tools.

Kyuubi rarely give advises to Naruto.Naruto cant seal off kyuubi's mouth permanently.Its not like naruto asks for kyuubi to help him with his advises.

People talk about how Sasuke was gifted with such eyes and shit but nobody but Kashai pointed out that naruto was gifted with such strong body and chakra pool.

But it didn't and he's not the Mc. i'm not saying Sasuke didn't kill himself. He just didn't train as hard. It's not even that much of a difference to be crying about tbh.


Lee out trained them both off effort alone.

Like I said before, "That's kool. The manga is about Naruto" So everybody else's hard work is beneath his.