Who shouldn't be on the Top Ten but always is?

[Midday]

Kabuto shouldn't be in the Top 10 lists at all
Orochimaru could do everything Kabuto did and he isn't even in Top 15 -_-

...narutobase logic

Orochimaru doesn't have dragon sage mode, Orochimaru doesn't have 30+ edos that he can keep under control. Hashirama can break out when he pleases.

 

[Stark]

Orochimaru doesn't have dragon sage mode, Orochimaru doesn't have 30+ edos that he can keep under control. Hashirama can break out when he pleases.

Kabuto no longer possesses such power, it was taken from him. The only reason he was able to perform any of the techniques he used was because Orochimaru's DNA.

 

[Midday]

Kabuto no longer possesses such power, it was taken from him. The only reason he was able to perform any of the techniques he used was because Orochimaru's DNA.

He can still collect natural energy which has nothing to do with Orochimaru. :|

 

[Baka Sennin]

imo, Itachi, he's top fifteen to twenty imo.

ninja who are stronger- hashirama, tobirama, hiruzen, minato, madara, obito, naruto, sasuke, dsm kabuto, nagato
ninja who are at a similar, perhaps even stronger level- hanzou, kakashi with current kamui, ms izuna, shishui, sakumo hatake, Bee, the Sannin, Oonoki.

he's really stong but the fact is that by twenty-one if he hadn't died he would either have gone blind or would have had to just use the normal sharingan exclusively and even then his vision would be very blurry. and while his normal genjutsu is still outstanding, he's not going to beat top tiers with that, kakashi showed how clones could screw over itachi in the beginning of shippuden.

in short, he's top twenty because he can't use the ms much if at all, and without the ms he has no counters for the top tier, plus they all outlast him. that said, the ninja who are in the top twenty are all utter beasts who are mid-high kage level so it's not as if he's in bad company.

 

[Itachi Hatake]

He can still collect natural energy which has nothing to do with Orochimaru. :|

I think youre wrong. Because if my memory serves me correct Oro took his SENJUTSU chakra from Kabuto. So i do not think he can become a sage anymore.

 

[Midday]

I think youre wrong. Because if my memory serves me correct Oro took his SENJUTSU chakra from Kabuto. So i do not think he can become a sage anymore.

How exactly does that means he can no longer collect natural energy?

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Kabuto no longer possesses such power, it was taken from him. The only reason he was able to perform any of the techniques he used was because Orochimaru's DNA.

And yet Itachi is dead and many other ninja that still make the top 10 list. By your logic they shouldn't even on the list because they are dead. They have no power when they are dead.

 

[Itachi Hatake]

How exactly does that means he can no longer collect natural energy?

Well considering that Kabuto injected Orochimaru DNA in him and then became a Sage, its implied that he does need Oro chakra to do so. When has it ever been stated that Kabuto has a vast chakra reserve? I mean Kabuto even said that his control over Edo Tensei would intensify with more of Oro power. So its safe to say that Oro was the boost he needed to becoming a Sage.

 

[Midday]

Well considering that in Kabutos injected Orochimaru DNA in him and then became a Sage, its implied that he does need Oro chakra to do so. When has it ever been stated that Kabuto has a vast chakra reserve? I mean Kabuto even said that his control over Edo Tensei would intensify with more of Oro power. So its safe to say that Oro was the boost he needed to becoming a Sage.

I wear a hat, I go outside and find money, I found the money because of the hat? No. Nowhere has it been stated Orochimaru's chakra is what caused Kabuto to master sage mode.

I don't know why this is even up for debate you take their prime abilities, why are you using the current Kabuto, i'm sure you would have Itachi in your top 10 even though he's a corpse.

 

[hamer34]

Rock Lee

The reason he won most of his battles is because of plot no jutsu

[video=youtube;tCtYuARcQPg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCtYuARcQPg[/video]

 

[hamer34]

tobirama
there i said it sue me

 

[Itachi Hatake]

I wear a hat, I go outside and find money, I found the money because of the hat? No. Nowhere has it been stated Orochimaru's chakra is what caused Kabuto to master sage mode.

I don't know why this is even up for debate you take their prime abilities, why are you using the current Kabuto, i'm sure you would have Itachi in your top 10 even though he's a corpse.

I never took away Kabutos abilities I thought it would be nice to bring it up, since in a debate if you fail to bring up a point, you essentially have to establish your credentials all over again. And that little analogy you tried does not work for this sake. You haven't answered my question either. When have you ever heard of Kabuto having a large chakra reserve since thats the primary requirement to even train to become a sage. The only thing that Juugo's DNA helped Kabuto in sage training was the ability to still be able to move while gathering natural energy.

 

[Midday]

I never took away Kabutos abilities I thought it would be nice to bring it up, since in a debate if you fail to bring up a point, you essentially have to establish your credentials all over again. And that little analogy you tried does not work for this sake. You haven't answered my question either. When have you ever heard of Kabuto having a large chakra reserve since thats the primary requirement to even train to become a sage. The only thing that Juugo's DNA helped Kabuto in sage training was the ability to still be able to move while gathering natural energy.

The analogy works. Rehtorical questions are not proof, I could ask when was it ever stated Orochimaru has large chakra levels which would be able to boost Kabutos? When was it ever stated Jiriya had large chakra levels, rather than finding out later because he has sage mode. Kabuto must have large chakra levels to learn sage mode.

 

[YellowFlash1]

There is no right or wrong answer tbh.... It's merely all hypothetical, so your decisions rely on how we perceive a person, which isn't always accurate. Most people take a certain interest in a particular Ninja and usually will always favor him, and tend to overlook and not bother as much about a another character that others might favor better, hence the issues why characters get overrated and underrated.

I would have to say personally that i believe, Muu is underrated. I believe this to be due to his lack of screen time, and due to him being matched although i don't think some people actually understand how strong Onoki and Muu actually are.

I believe those Ninja's to be on the list....

I believe that Itachi shouldn't be on the top 10 list... This isn't me hating on him, as many of you may think, although i just personally believe that he can't keep up with the power and the scale of the fight at which they usually fight. He's never really beaten a strong opponent and usually done won, by having techniques that are introduced to the manga the first time he uses them.. Which is usually unexpected, although i believe that there are many Ninja would he couldn't easily out-smart for an easy win.

Sage of six paths, this is a ninja that i believe shouldn't even be mentioned on the Top 10... Due to it being completely illogical, considering we know next to nothing about him. I'm under the assumption that people believe he obtained every single Jutsu known to man... Which i personally believe is nonsense. Anyway, i believe to have an accurate top 10, you must be free from speculation..

I you have a different opinion and disagree with me, then i respect your opinion!

 

[Blaze Release]

Have not really taken much notice into who which member puts into their top 10 so meh.

EDIT: Actually Hiruzen and Minato comes to mind.

After the old man has been made to look stupid by kishi after the latest chapters im not sure about him anymore. Damn kishi

Secondly minato's poor arsenal means that he cannot put down the oro that fought 4 tailed naruto or the 3rd raikage without sacrificing his life. To put him above people he can at best draw against is rather odd

 

[Lilt]

Tobirama deserves on every list.

Itachi does not deserve the top 10 list. Mine is not in order btw just stronge chaacters than Itachi.

1 - Hashi
2 - Madara Edo
3 - Izuna Ms
4 - Nagato
5 - Tobirama
6 - Naruto BM
7 - Minato
8 - Tobi Ms and Rinnegan + Tailed Beast + Gedo Mezo
9 - Kabuto Edo Tensei
10 - Saskue EMS

Minato, Tobirama, & Izuna aren't better than Itachi lol.

Not in hype, & certainly not in feats.

 

[TJ0001]

sasuke. in my opinion.

 

[Itachi Hatake]

The analogy works. Rehtorical questions are not proof, I could ask when was it ever stated Orochimaru has large chakra levels which would be able to boost Kabutos? When was it ever stated Jiriya had large chakra levels, rather than finding out later because he has sage mode. Kabuto must have large chakra levels to learn sage mode.

if you insist on dancing around the question i have no need in continuing to converse with you. I just think its logical to think that since Orochimaru took his chakra back, kabuto doesnt have the means to enter sage mode anymore. But if you persist on claiming that he does thats your opinion and its definitely not changing mines.

 

[ImNoOne]

Tobirama deserves on every list.

Itachi does not deserve the top 10 list. Mine is not in order btw just stronge chaacters than Itachi.

1 - Hashi
2 - Madara Edo
3 - Izuna Ms
4 - Nagato
5 - Tobirama
6 - Naruto BM
7 - Minato
8 - Tobi Ms and Rinnegan + Tailed Beast + Gedo Mezo
9 - Kabuto Edo Tensei
10 - Saskue EMS

How the hell did Izuna end up on your top ten? Have you ever seen a fight where he enters? We don't even have Hype to compare.... The same applies to Tobirama, I don't doubt he is strong but we know nothing of him, so how can you say he is stronger than any other candidate to the top ten?

Also putting Minato there it's highly biased... as Blaze said he doesn't have offensive power to shoot down a quite large amount of characters that you have not included in your top..