[Discussion] Who said Uchiha or Senju (pure-blood) have a lot of chakra reserves?

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I have read a lot of times in the base that the members of these clans have tremendous chakra reserves.

Please, I'd like you state how and why do you think that, and from where did you get this information.

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only Madara, Izuna and Sasuke have huge chakra reserves from the Uchiha Clan.
 

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only Madara, Izuna and Sasuke have huge chakra reserves from the Uchiha Clan.

Okay. From where did you get this information then? What makes you think in this way?

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Here they are.

That talks about quality of chakra (Uchiha), not quantity. And also talks about lifeforce (Senju). This has nothing to do with chakra reserves.
 

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The Uchiha have powerful chakra and the Senju have large reserves of it.

Obito said it:

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Okay. From where did you get this information then? What makes you think in this way?



That talks about quality of chakra (Uchiha), not quantity. And also talks about lifeforce (Senju). This has nothing to do with chakra reserves.

Pardon me, I cannot aid you further.

The idea of this manga is that the reader thinks about the subject. But if the reader wishes for clear words he/she wants to hear and denies the thoughts of others, they can't be helped by mere fans.

You need Kishimoto.
 

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The Uchiha have powerful chakra and the Senju have large reserves of it.

Obito said it:

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Okay. From where did you get this information then? What makes you think in this way?
Madara had extremely powerful chakra and Izuna was his equal in every way. Sasuke has a lot of chakra too and powerful chakra. Check the manga and wikia. Sasuke can use Susanoo and mangekyo so many times a day when he only had MS
 

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I see your point. Nothing about them having large reserves was ever said, and a few members of the clan having large reserves doesn't mean that every member of the clan has it. Of course, if you're talking about individual members, then Hashirama has chakra comparable to BM Naruto, as he said the amount was comparable to his own. Sasuke and Madara have well above average chakra at the very least, as they use Mangekyo techniques with impunity, which are known for their huge chakra cost.
 
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Pardon me, I cannot aid you further.

The idea of this manga is that the reader thinks about the subject. But if the reader wishes for clear words he/she wants to hear and denies the thoughts of others, they can't be helped by mere fans.

You need Kishimoto.

I'll explain why I differ. But I'll use the image you guys are referencing.

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Wait a bit :)

Madara had extremely powerful chakra and Izuna was his equal in every way. Sasuke has a lot of chakra too and powerful chakra. Check the manga and wikia. Sasuke can use Susanoo and mangekyo so many times a day when he only had MS

Okay. Of course I agree Uchiha have high quality chakra, due the spiritual energy running in their veins. But I differ they having great quantities of chakra (and I also differ Senju having great quantities of chakra).

Let me explain.

I opened this thread because there was a rumor about these clans having great chakra reserves, and I don't believe these rumors being true at all. So I needed thoughts and evidence to percieve a collective deduction about what was the truth behind this rumor.

...I'll say something that may be interesting:

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...it seems a shinobi needs both physical and spiritual energy to mold chakra.

Uchiha clan have high quality chakra, so they can use a little bit of chakra to produce a jutsu with great effect, but it keeps being little quantities of chakra.

Senju clan have a lot of lifeforce, so their techniques are very effected with yang properties (healing abilities, or the mokuton element who is full of life, it's strong enough). But they also don't have that great quantities of chakra.

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Here they are.

Thanks UchihaNagashi. Now I'll use these images you posted.

The reason is that shinobi need both physical and spiritual energies to release chakra. But the elder son only inherited spiritual energy, while the younger son only inherited the physical energy. That's the main problem here...these sons lack the counterpart energy to have great reserves.



I see your point. Nothing about them having large reserves was ever said, and a few members of the clan having large reserves doesn't mean that every member of the clan has it.

Exactly. These clans have excellent chakra with special properties, but as far as I know, they don't hold great reserves.
 
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I repeat myself

Obito clearly said for the Uchiha "powerful chakra" and for the Senju "gifted with his physical energy" - now must we go back about 500 chapters and explain how physical energy is turned into chakra?
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Obito clearly said for the Uchiha "powerful chakra" and for the Senju "gifted with his physical energy" - now must we go back about 500 chapters and explain how physical energy is turned into chakra?
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You need both Spiritual and Physical (Body) Energy to release chakra. Uchiha lacks physical while Senju lacks spiritual energy. (Look the end of your own reference)
 

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Obito clearly said for the Uchiha "powerful chakra" and for the Senju "gifted with his physical energy" - now must we go back about 500 chapters and explain how physical energy is turned into chakra?
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It takes both physical and spiritual energy to make chakra.
 

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Negative on the both Uchiha & Senju. Uchiha have inherited the douiutsu of the Sage. Senju inherited the strong life force of the Sage. Uzamaki are the only clan I've read of with enormous chakra reserves, as an entire clan not just a couple of members.
 

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You need both Spiritual and Physical (Body) Energy to release chakra. Uchiha lacks physical while Senju lacks spiritual energy. (Look the end of your own reference)

No, you're looking at it from the wrong angle and you're presuming with basis. Where does it state in the manga that the Senju lack spiritual energy?

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Stamina a.k.a physical energy is turned into chakra, if you have lots of physical energy, you can produce lots of chakra.

It's a case of quality vs. quantity.
 

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Negative on the both Uchiha & Senju. Uchiha have inherited the douiutsu of the Sage. Senju inherited the strong life force of the Sage. Uzamaki are the only clan I've read of with enormous chakra reserves, as an entire clan not just a couple of members.

Uzumakis were known for their vitality, not large chakra reserves.
 

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You also need to take into account that it has been hinted at that chakra is inherited in part from parents and the like. Madara and Izuna would have been born already with atleast a decent level of reserves because they are atleast hinted to be the sons of the Uchiha clan head of that time and by proxy the strongest Uchiha at that time. And then they constantly trained from a young age, exhausting themselves over and over again to build up their chakra reserves over time. Eventually they'd unlock the Mangekyou which have very chakra costly jutsu and it's said that Madara used it so often he went blind, so I'd assume his chakra levels skyrocketed from that aswell. Everytime a shinobi exhausts their chakra reserves, they gain a little more each time they recover.

Sasuke was near enough the exact same, and then he got a curse seal from Orochimaru that bolstered his reserves aswell. Think about it. He only had enough chakra for two Chidori at first, but then after recovering he managed 3 of them thanks to the cursed seal. And then everytime he would train with it he exhausted himself alot, which in turn would get him more and more chakra back in return.

Sorry if this doesn't make much sense. I'm really tired at the moment.
 
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