[Spoilers] Who Killed Him?

[Kodama]

So its seems that Madara knew Nagato at least when Nagato was a "little brat" so Madara had to die rather late in the grand timeline of Naruto. From the looks of him, im guessing it wasn't old age. So that begs the question, Who Killed Madara?

Tobi? And if Tobi killed Madara we would have to assume it was trickery or betrayal otherwise Tobi shouldn't fear facing Madara again when threatened by Kabuto.

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

So its seems that Madara knew Nagato at least when Nagato was a "little brat" so it seems that Madara had to die rather late in the series. From the looks of him, im guessing it wasn't old age. So that begs the question, Who Killed Madara?

Tobi? And if Tobi killed Madara we would have to assume it was trickery or betrayal otherwise Tobi shouldn't fear facing Madara again when threatened by Kabuto.

You contradict yourself. You say he didn't die from old age because he looks young but you say he knew Nagato personally which means he would have to be more than 100 years old. If he would die in that time wouldn't he mention Orochimaru? Something like "Oro you bastard, how dare you.. ?". 2nd hokage is dead by that time and Oro is the only option.

 

[-Vegeta-]

He could of just died from the severe wounds Hashirama left him with or maybe old age. Somebody could of killed him, but we'll just have to wait to find out.

 

[Blaze Release]

Same can be said about hashirama. When he was revived he looked young.
Anyway i cant remember but im sure that it says that edo tensei revives the dead back to their prime. That could explain how he looks, this contradicts the 3rd raikage and thus contradict what kishi says.

Tbh i think kishi doesnt keep acount of what exactly a jutsu is about

 

[Owarij]

no madara died to the first hokage, look at the war clothing he was revived in, the same as the battle with the first, and seeing that edo tesnsei revives you right before the point of your death, highly unlikely

so lets try and understand wth is going on, some how madara has knowledge of nagato,his rinnegan, and rinne tensei

madara was expecting to be revived by nagato , as if it was a plan set in motion

madara knows about edo tensei, the 2nd hokage who created it must have used it a few times)

tobi claims to be madara, but a shell of his former self, and he aims to be "completed"

tobi said he gave nagato the rinnegan and that the eyes were his to begin with

i'll be thinking about all these points and see if i can come to a conclusion, but atm i am hella confused, the only thing i can think about is madara having to halves mind and soul, tobi having his mind but madara actually being dead,

the dead madara has information leading up to a point , then it stops, he knew nagato when he was young , thus callign him a brat, and that's about it ,

the alive tobi/madara , was angry that nagato did not use the rinne tensei on him, and wanted to know why nagato betrayed him, he asked naruto and konan that question, it seems the dead madara/edo tensei, does not have recent information about being betrayed, sigh my head hurts T.T



sigh it's like tobi is madara yet isn't madara

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or he was madara but now isnt madara? the fox recognized him in that scan, the fox knows his eyes, "those eyes more sinister than those of uchiha madara"

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wtf is going on?

 

[-Vegeta-]

no madara died to the first hokage, look at the war clothing he was revived in, the same as the battle with the first, and seeing that edo tesnsei revives you right before the point of your death, highly unlikely

so lets try and understand wth is going on, some how madara has knowledge of nagato,his rinnegan, and rinne tensei

madara was expecting to be revived by nagato , as if it was a plan set in motion

madara knows about edo tensei, the 2nd hokage who created it must have used it a few times)

tobi claims to be madara, but a shell of his former self, and he aims to be "completed"

tobi said he gave nagato the rinnegan and that the eyes were his to begin with

i'll be thinking about all these points and see if i can come to a conclusion, but atm i am hella confused, the only thing i can think about is madara having to halves mind and soul, tobi having his mind but madara actually being dead,

the dead madara has information leading up to a point , then it stops, he knew nagato when he was young , thus callign him a brat, and that's about it ,

the alive tobi/madara , was angry that nagato did not use the rinne tensei on him, and wanted to know why nagato betrayed him, he asked naruto and konan that question, it seems the dead madara/edo tensei, does not have recent information about being betrayed, sigh my head hurts T.T

If that were true than Madara never would of mentioned Nagato. Madara had to of survived that fight to have any kind of knowledge on Nagato.

 

[Owarij]

If that were true than Madara never would of mentioned Nagato. Madara had to of survived that fight to have any kind of knowledge on Nagato.

yea so madara went around with his clothes, hair everything the same as the statue, and noone noticed his existance for hundreds of years?

 

[BigTDogg220]

The First Hokage probably killed him

 

[sasuke721]

no madara died to the first hokage, look at the war clothing he was revived in, the same as the battle with the first, and seeing that edo tesnsei revives you right before the point of your death, highly unlikely

so lets try and understand wth is going on, some how madara has knowledge of nagato,his rinnegan, and rinne tensei

madara was expecting to be revived by nagato , as if it was a plan set in motion

madara knows about edo tensei, the 2nd hokage who created it must have used it a few times)

tobi claims to be madara, but a shell of his former self, and he aims to be "completed"

tobi said he gave nagato the rinnegan and that the eyes were his to begin with

i'll be thinking about all these points and see if i can come to a conclusion, but atm i am hella confused, the only thing i can think about is madara having to halves mind and soul, tobi having his mind but madara actually being dead,

the dead madara has information leading up to a point , then it stops, he knew nagato when he was young , thus callign him a brat, and that's about it ,

the alive tobi/madara , was angry that nagato did not use the rinne tensei on him, and wanted to know why nagato betrayed him, he asked naruto and konan that question, it seems the dead madara/edo tensei, does not have recent information about being betrayed, sigh my head hurts T.T

you make a good point. I had completely forgotten about tobi saying that nagato was supposed to use that resurrection technique on him. that just makes this entire scenario even more confusing, because that now implies that tobi needed to be revived, which would mean he is dead, and tobi can't be dead because well, he's not.

So yeah, we now know that madara was in the sixth coffin so that answers that question, but it makes a whole lot more questions now.

 

[Manzai]

hmm....this reminds me of when oro's powers were seperated after his death by sasuke and he was trying to take over kabuto and sasuke I wondered what would happen if he succeeded in doing both? would there be two oros walking around or what?

 

[Kodama]

ok i thought it was confirmed that Madara got some of the 1st's cells when they fought.

1st Hokage Cells= increased lifespan.

when you die old, you come back old (Chiyo), Madara doesn't look old at all so therefore Madara did NOT die of old age.

You can think what you want, but calling someone "that brat Nagato" is personal, so Madara knew Nagato before he died.

Madara did not die of old age, but he died within the lifespan of Nagato. so the Q still remains.

Who Killed Madara?

 

[Stampy]

So its seems that Madara knew Nagato at least when Nagato was a "little brat" so Madara had to die rather late in the grand timeline of Naruto. From the looks of him, im guessing it wasn't old age. So that begs the question, Who Killed Madara?

Tobi? And if Tobi killed Madara we would have to assume it was trickery or betrayal otherwise Tobi shouldn't fear facing Madara again when threatened by Kabuto.

Yeah I was just re-reading this !!! There is DEFINATELY something going on here that we need to figure out! Madara knew Nagato, that much is for sure. But Madara still looked young?! WTH ?! Also Madara expected to have been resurected through Nagato's path that resurect thus the "I guess that little brat Nagato finally grew" then he is surprised by Muu to learn its impure world res.
Again, how could he look so young? yet know of Nagato?! I don't think 100 years seperate his death to young Nagato, more like 40 or 50 (Don't know for sure haven't done the math) still he should appear AT LEAST 50 or 60 years old, not 30s...
And also if he knew about IWR... but couldn't recognized that that's what brought him back, then its his first time consciousness as IWR char, thus nothing to do with hashirama's bro, Oro or Kabuto in the past.
XD WE NEED more intel !!!

And I DEFINATELY agree with you when you say Tobi might have killed Madara using trickery... BUT I would most likely tend to think that Tobi had nothing to do with Madara, just knew him from apparences, and got scared of Kabuto because he could blow his cover! Either way is possible.

 

[-Vegeta-]

yea so madara went around with his clothes, hair everything the same as the statue, and noone noticed his existance for hundreds of years?

I don't know, why don't you ask kishi? The fact remains he had to of lived to have any kind of knowledge at all on Nagato, and he clearly knew him based on his comments from this chapter.

 

[Stampy]

or he was madara but now isnt madara? the fox recognized him in that scan, the fox knows his eyes, "those eyes more sinister than those of uchiha madara"

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wtf is going on?

Tobi took Dead Madara's eyes?

 

[Owarij]

Tobi took Dead Madara's eyes?

lol maybe after madara died , zetsu came touched his body , turned into him, and took his eyes, 0.o lol it sounds wierd , but at this point who knows

 

[Manzai]

lol maybe after madara died , zetsu came touched his body , turned into him, and took his eyes, 0.o lol it sounds wierd , but at this point who knows

thats what I thought as well, though still doesn't explain how dead madara knows about nagato