Who Is Tobi?

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In my opinion, Tobi could either be Izuna Uchicha (Madara Uchiha's Brother) or Kagami Uchiha.

My Reasons Being Izuna is the only one who has knowledge about Madara, which may be how Tobi knows so much about Madara. It is also stated that they both were equally as strong. Only down side being how is he still alive?

On the other hand it could be Kagami Uchiha, as he not only admired Madara Uchiha but also has the Sharingan.

What are your thoughts?
 
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KaosPhantom said:
In my opinion, Tobi could either be Izuna Uchicha (Madara Uchiha's Brother) or Kagami Uchiha.

My Reasons Being Izuna is the only one who has knowledge about Madara, which may be how Tobi knows so much about Madara. It is also stated that they both were equally as strong. Only down side being how is he still alive?

On the other hand it could be Kagami Uchiha, as he not only admired Madara Uchiha but also has the Sharingan.

What are your thoughts?
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And how he know about sage that much??? is he sages brother too xd???
he knows all of that cuz of it was written in uchiha hide out or something where he find out about jubi stuff too and other things...
 
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It's alright man, but when you go to the right forum place, there is a search bar. You get flamed for repeating stuff :shrug:

I agree it might be Izuna. However my reason is a bit more elaborate :p
 
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tobi is no one until proven in the manga.
 
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In my opinion there are only 3 options left now
1) He is Obito - first i thought so but now I dont because he is to powerfull to just be some Obito and even if not, then why he wants to destroy everything, kill so many people & I cant see the source of his anger
2)Izuna Uchiha - well everything that KaosPhantom said. But still im not so sure but maybe he is tobi
3)SO6P - this one i believe the most because He is really powerfull, and he really maybe saw that nothing in this world could be done without hatred, he lost his hope for ninja world and maybe in a violent way he is trying to accomplish eye moon project to stop the war once and for all
 
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Tobi is Madara's brother
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Now i will explain why i said it is going to be Izuna,pay close attention

Now we will start from madara to harashima,
Madara who was half blind was said to have taken izuna's MS in order to regain his sight,but it was never said that madara took both eyes,now i know what u will say..that u need both eyes to gain back ur sight but lets think about it..Izuna was said to be an equal to madara so why would he give his eyes to madara in order to fight harashima,even he could have fought the 1st & maybe even won..after all Izuna's MS was different than madara & could have given him an advantage over the 1 unless infact that izuna's MS abilities did not have a more advantage than madara's MS ability..which would explain why an equal uchiha in power & skills would give his eyes to another equal uchiha(madara)
Now lets go back to what Tobi
Tobi in his explanation to sasuke told us that Izuna which he was calming to be,his brother at that time gave him "madara" which he calmed to be his eyes In order for Him to fight harashima..
Now pause,let's think about this,if madara was given the EMS by Izuna in order to fight harashima for the sit of hokage then how did Izuna die in war when at the time he gave his eyes to madara the war was already over...
But wait it might have been during their last battle which lead to peace that Izuna died but then again madara would have not accepted peace becoz according to tobi it was the way the uchiha said that madara took his brother eyes in order to gain power & also how is brother sacrifice meant nothing in the uchiha's eyes that made him hate the leaf & uchihas,,so it is highly unlikely that madara would have agree to make peace with the senju when Izuna his brother was dead
What am i trying to say here that Izuna did not die in the war,Now while a lot of u will say that it has been said that Izuna died at war let me remind u that things that are said and not shown mostly turn out not to be what was saidU_U
Now this doesn't explain a lot of why tobi is doing what he is doing & how he knows much so i would explain
Izuna & madara were said & shown to have been the first to awaken the MS NOTE that they were the first & not the only ones,yet it was said that they were few that got these power(MS) but it wasn't said that madara & Izuna were the only one with MS,
now u might say why can't it be that d brothers were the only ones that had the MS why? becoz if it was only madara who had the EMS & everyone else had normal sharingan then HE alone would have killed all the uchiha's with ease in a night like itachi & tobi but he didn't, why would a god at that time listen to some old weak uchiha's when they should be worshiping his EMS

Only 2 reason can be given,either they were up to 7 uchihas which he knew that together they could kill him or He had sometin someone he cared about.
Now i doubt that 20 uchiha's can take madara even with MS,he will only use a meteorite to kill everyone but if u were to look at it that madara had someone he cared of & that person was not powerful enough to fight for himself or herself,so he had to agree to the uchihas then he later left the village to get this person he cared about out of harms way,Now the only person that madara even cared about was his brother & as far as we know he never had a wife.
This would explain why he 1st left the village then before fightin harashima
Now to why tobi in this case Izuna is doing all this in the present,Izuna was madara's best friend,brother( & if i may add lover:D )since madara did not die at the end of the battle it is only Natural that he would go to a place where he could try & treat his wounds,
Now u might say even if izuna was there how would a blind person take care of a dying Madara but what if he was not totally blind,madara izuna & kakashi are the only Ninjas that have unlocked their MS without killing their close friends,
Now i will tell u that Izuna had one eye how & why ?
If Izuna gives an eye to Madara that would make him able to see with one eye..Madara with an eye & Izuna would be able to kill another MS user with ease ,now since madara can see with one eye implanting another MS would make him able to see But if thats the case why did Izuna not take the other eye.2 reason can be given,either it was damaged or it would make the uchihas suspect them 0_o
If tobi is Izuna it would explain how he know's a lot of history of the leaf & how madara knows him & trust in him to bring him back to life

You might ask how does tobi's eyes look like a normal shiringan but is using a justu that a normal sharigan can't use if he is Izuna ???
I can think of 2 reasons,either he implanted shiringan in his eyes but he still retain his original MS ability or he is infact using a space time ninjustu that is not an MS ability but a justu similar to Minato's ftd but can be manipulated with the shiringan instead of a seal..
Also to how Nagato was known by madara,can be explained if tobi is izuna,it would mean that madara told him some secrets of the rinnegan before dieing which izuna would have used on Nagato's mum & dad inorder to give bath to a rinnengan user which is Nagato then He Izuna would have used a justu on Madara so that they could be communicating even beyond death,so madara would have known all of what was going on, if tobi was communication with him beyond death with a justu then Madara would know that nagato was the rinnegan user & that he was going to be the person that would be used to bring him back to life
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F1N1X said:
Tobi is Madara's brother
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Now i will explain why i said it is going to be Izuna,pay close attention

Now we will start from madara to harashima,
Madara who was half blind was said to have taken izuna's MS in order to regain his sight,but it was never said that madara took both eyes,now i know what u will say..that u need both eyes to gain back ur sight but lets think about it..Izuna was said to be an equal to madara so why would he give his eyes to madara in order to fight harashima,even he could have fought the 1st & maybe even won..after all Izuna's MS was different than madara & could have given him an advantage over the 1 unless infact that izuna's MS abilities did not have a more advantage than madara's MS ability..which would explain why an equal uchiha in power & skills would give his eyes to another equal uchiha(madara)
Now lets go back to what Tobi
Tobi in his explanation to sasuke told us that Izuna which he was calming to be,his brother at that time gave him "madara" which he calmed to be his eyes In order for Him to fight harashima..
Now pause,let's think about this,if madara was given the EMS by Izuna in order to fight harashima for the sit of hokage then how did Izuna die in war when at the time he gave his eyes to madara the war was already over...
But wait it might have been during their last battle which lead to peace that Izuna died but then again madara would have not accepted peace becoz according to tobi it was the way the uchiha said that madara took his brother eyes in order to gain power & also how is brother sacrifice meant nothing in the uchiha's eyes that made him hate the leaf & uchihas,,so it is highly unlikely that madara would have agree to make peace with the senju when Izuna his brother was dead
What am i trying to say here that Izuna did not die in the war,Now while a lot of u will say that it has been said that Izuna died at war let me remind u that things that are said and not shown mostly turn out not to be what was saidU_U
Now this doesn't explain a lot of why tobi is doing what he is doing & how he knows much so i would explain
Izuna & madara were said & shown to have been the first to awaken the MS NOTE that they were the first & not the only ones,yet it was said that they were few that got these power(MS) but it wasn't said that madara & Izuna were the only one with MS,
now u might say why can't it be that d brothers were the only ones that had the MS why? becoz if it was only madara who had the EMS & everyone else had normal sharingan then HE alone would have killed all the uchiha's with ease in a night like itachi & tobi but he didn't, why would a god at that time listen to some old weak uchiha's when they should be worshiping his EMS

Only 2 reason can be given,either they were up to 7 uchihas which he knew that together they could kill him or He had sometin someone he cared about.
Now i doubt that 20 uchiha's can take madara even with MS,he will only use a meteorite to kill everyone but if u were to look at it that madara had someone he cared of & that person was not powerful enough to fight for himself or herself,so he had to agree to the uchihas then he later left the village to get this person he cared about out of harms way,Now the only person that madara even cared about was his brother & as far as we know he never had a wife.
This would explain why he 1st left the village then before fightin harashima
Now to why tobi in this case Izuna is doing all this in the present,Izuna was madara's best friend,brother( & if i may add lover:D )since madara did not die at the end of the battle it is only Natural that he would go to a place where he could try & treat his wounds,
Now u might say even if izuna was there how would a blind person take care of a dying Madara but what if he was not totally blind,madara izuna & kakashi are the only Ninjas that have unlocked their MS without killing their close friends,
Now i will tell u that Izuna had one eye how & why ?
If Izuna gives an eye to Madara that would make him able to see with one eye..Madara with an eye & Izuna would be able to kill another MS user with ease ,now since madara can see with one eye implanting another MS would make him able to see But if thats the case why did Izuna not take the other eye.2 reason can be given,either it was damaged or it would make the uchihas suspect them 0_o
If tobi is Izuna it would explain how he know's a lot of history of the leaf & how madara knows him & trust in him to bring him back to life

You might ask how does tobi's eyes look like a normal shiringan but is using a justu that a normal sharigan can't use if he is Izuna ???
I can think of 2 reasons,either he implanted shiringan in his eyes but he still retain his original MS ability or he is infact using a space time ninjustu that is not an MS ability but a justu similar to Minato's ftd but can be manipulated with the shiringan instead of a seal..
Also to how Nagato was known by madara,can be explained if tobi is izuna,it would mean that madara told him some secrets of the rinnegan before dieing which izuna would have used on Nagato's mum & dad inorder to give bath to a rinnengan user which is Nagato then He Izuna would have used a justu on Madara so that they could be communicating even beyond death,so madara would have known all of what was going on, if tobi was communication with him beyond death with a justu then Madara would know that nagato was the rinnegan user & that he was going to be the person that would be used to bring him back to life
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Hmm I know this is the Narutoverse and all but it has gone a little far fetched. + rep for the effort and thoughts though!

About the bit in bold. Did you mean why Madara left? Wasn't it stated he left because the Uchiha sorta turned on him, infact its been said twice I think :confused:
 
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Easyfathom said:
Hmm I know this is the Narutoverse and all but it has gone a little far fetched. + rep for the effort and thoughts though!

About the bit in bold. Did you mean why Madara left? Wasn't it stated he left because the Uchiha sorta turned on him, infact its been said twice I think :confused:
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yes when the village chose to elect Hashirama as the 1st Hokage, Madara didn't think that he was the right choice and that the Senju would only suppress the Uchiha then, so he tried to challenge Hashirama by basically trying to start a fight and when that happened the Uchiha clan turned their backs on him. Feeling betrayed he left the village and decided to fight Hashirama to the death
 
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Oturan Uchiha said:
yes when the village chose to elect Hashirama as the 1st Hokage, Madara didn't think that he was the right choice and that the Senju would only suppress the Uchiha then, so he tried to challenge Hashirama by basically trying to start a fight and when that happened the Uchiha clan turned their backs on him. Feeling betrayed he left the village and decided to fight Hashirama to the death
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Yeah, thought it was stated.

I like this guys effort an all, but he has a few loose ends with facts and stuff :rolleyes:
 
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