Who is the true avenger, Obito or Sasuke?

[JIRAIYA perv]

you just made my day.

good thread btw +rep

 

[End of Days]

gonna go with obito

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Lol madara

 

[wolfx]

good thread btw +rep

Thank you

 

[Turson]

U asked this to early but I would say obito

Obito has nothing to do with vengeance. He doesnt want to avange anybody, he just want to create better (in his mind) world.

 

[Black Flames]

obito of course, RIN's death was the trigger to unleash obito, he wanted to punish minato for not being there to prevent RIN's death (the konoha attack), and he will stop at nothing until he either succeed in his plan or die. now sasuke have always been manipulated and didn't know whats what i mean its silly that at some point he didn't even know why he's angry and still wants revenge.
OBITO IS THE CHARACTER WHO FOOLED THE ENTIRE SHINOBI WORLD, SASUKE JUST FOOLED HIMSELF

No, Obito is a character who wants to but the world under Infinite Tsukuyomi for one girls death but instead of killing Kakashi he wants the whole to pay for it and Sasuke was manipulated by Itachi in to believing he killed his family and Clan just to see the limit of his powers so what do expect for Sasuke to believe? and another thing Obito didn't see hundreds of dead people at the age of 7.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Sasuke. The guy is bent on killing everyone who has ever wronged him and his bro. Obito is just some dude who cannot get over a girl who didn't even love him back, so now he wants everyone to be happy in an illusion, how lame...

not ..... exactly ....., RIN'S death was nothing but a trigger so obito can see the world from madara's view (a desperate view), it made him think (like madara) that the eye moon plan is the only way to peace even if its fake.

 

[Chatte]

Sasuke, nevertheless. U_U
Obito's doing this over a girl, Sasuke's doing it over his family and clan.
Motivation is truly more powerful.

 

[wolfx]

Obito has nothing to do with vengeance. He doesnt want to avange anybody, he just want to create better (in his mind) world.

as far as we know he never agreed to the plan.

 

[Turson]

OBITO IS THE CHARACTER WHO FOOLED THE ENTIRE SHINOBI WORLD, SASUKE JUST FOOLED HIMSELF

obito of course

Only, Obito isnt avenging anybody, thats not his point and never was. Sasuke is avenger, Obito is mad reformator.

 

[julia maltellak]

sasuke

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

No, Obito is a character who wants to but the world under Infinite Tsukuyomi for one girls death but instead of killing Kakashi he wants the whole to pay for it and Sasuke was manipulated by Itachi in to believing he killed his family and Clan just to see the limit of his powers so what do expect for Sasuke to believe? and another thing Obito didn't see hundreds of dead people at the age of 7.

no no no .... you do realize that what you said doesn't make sense, you said obito wants every one to pay so he's gona make every one live in peace (fake but still it is peace, no killing each other), all what happened made him believe that the only peace the world can have is a fake peace (madara's point of view)

 

[AnimeFanGirl4Eva]

Well, for Sasuke, his whole clan was destroyed along with his father and mother, and I assume him wanting to "Avenge" the death for his clan and parents was by killing his brother (Who is actually trying to help him) was kind of a fail to me xD I mean, after Sasuke found out it was Konaha's fault, he then went on to "avenge" the killer of his clan (being Itachi) by destroying Konoha now. I dunno. To me Sasuke is just really confused on the matter, so i don't really think he fully knows what "avenging" is. I did however, like his reason in the beginning of the show but since he has changed his mind over a gazillion times....it's getting kind of old now imo.

As for Obito, yes he is doing it for a girl, but we have NO idea what the full purpose this actually is for. Yes, the new chapter came out, but his side of the story is STILL going so he still may have a legit reason as to why he he wants to avenge her. The odds of this turning out to be just for her because "he loved her" would be really idiotic and I don't think Kishi would really have this whole "big strong tough bad guy" have such a lame reason like that. I think we are calling it a bit too early, but since Obito's reason isn't really done yet...I would have to say Sasuke, even though he is confused lol My opinion though.

 

[Turson]

as far as we know he never agreed to the plan.

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[JIRAIYA perv]

Only, Obito isnt avenging anybody, thats not his point and never was. Sasuke is avenger, Obito is mad reformator.

i said obito was the better avenger coz of attacking minato not everything obito did coz like you said obito's plan is not revenge, its a way to achieve peace

 

[UltimateSasuke12]

Sasuke Hands Down, He Went Throught plenty Just To Get where He is Now all Based On Revenge!!

 

[Turson]

i said obito was the better avenger coz of attacking minato not everything obito did coz like you said obito's plan is not revenge, its a way to achieve peace

Obito didnt do it becuase he was avenging Rin, he did that only becuase Kushina was Kuramas Jinjuuriki and Minato simply stood in his way. If Obito really wanted to avenge Rin, Kakashi would be first on his list.

So no, Obito is not "better" avenger, simply becuase he isnt avenger at all.

 

[Black Flames]

no no no .... you do realize that what you said doesn't make sense, you said obito wants every one to pay so he's gona make every one live in peace (fake but still it is peace, no killing each other), all what happened made him believe that the only peace the world can have is a fake peace (madara's point of view)

Then how is make a peaceful world make you an avenger?

 

[wolfx]

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what if he only said that, because at the point in the manga we all thought he was "MADARA", and he had to keep madara's ideals intact in order to be believable.

 

[Turson]

what if he only said that, because at the point in the manga we all thought he was "MADARA", and he had to keep madara's ideals intact in order to be believable.

He never said it at all, those were his inner thoughts.