Who is the strongest shinobi without borrowed powers or a tailed beast?

[Huzaifa]

FTg is tobirama and s06p and juubi then most powerful by your requirments.

 

[Renpatsu Dei]

Slap your self for that stupid comment.

I think he meant that that's what a hater would say.

 

[Yanks]

I think he meant that that's what a hater would say.

This. .........

 

[Huzaifa]

Hater: Hashirama doesn't count because he has Senju DNA

He didnt get it form someone it is his own.... worst comment I saw today.

 

[Avinash012]

Ugh :| i dont think you or sagemode saw were i was getting at
nevermind >.>

So u r basically sayng that Neji's Byakugan,Sasuke's Sharingan are all borrowed power's right...?

 

[salamander uchiha]

That doesn't count for shit, otherwise if it's things passed from parents to son on their birth we have to count Kurama for Naruto. It came from their parents on his birth.

It does count 1 is inherited through blood. Naruto didnt inherit kyubi it was sealed in him after birth

 

[Yanks]

So u r basically sayng that Neji's Byakugan,Sasuke's Sharingan are all borrowed power's right...?

Psst.. Hey you over there. Scroll up and read Renpatsu's post yeah?

 

[Mejkl3]

Strongest character without Borrowed powers and tailed beasts.

*If you pick kakashi for example, you cannot factor in his Sharingan as its a borrowed power.*

I would have to say,


Hashirama and minato would be the strongest.

Hashirama: all his techs and jutsu's are his

Minato : FTG

your turn.

You can't count Hashirama ... he has Senju DNA which is Senju Ancestors Power xD

Though idk if it is borrowed but Minato only has jutsus that he copied from others: Rasengan (Kurama), FTG (Tobirama), Death Reaper Sealing Jutsu (Hiruzen), Toad Summoning (Jiraiya).

 

[Avinash012]

Psst.. Hey you over there. Scroll up and read Renpatsu's post yeah?

No need for that ..Already read that..u r point dosen't make any sence can u plz explain clearly .....!

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

No need for that ..Already read that..u r point dosen't make any sence can u plz explain clearly .....!

lol

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[bogosixone]

hiruzen, kakashi, tobirama minato, 3 sannin

 

[Avinash012]

You can't count Hashirama ... he has Senju DNA which is Senju Ancestors Power xD

Though idk if it is borrowed but Minato only has jutsus that he copied from others: Rasengan (Kurama), FTG (Tobirama), Death Reaper Sealing Jutsu (Hiruzen), Toad Summoning (Jiraiya).

How many shinobi's are there with thire own Jutsu..?

Going by u r logic all of shinobi that existed are copies of Sage...!

Minato didn't got them by birth...and they aren't ass pull's like MS which can be obtained by some sort of mental breakdown...

It require a great deal of skill and hard work to master any of those Tech's he didn't got them on a whim....!

U have any logical proof to say that Tobirama created them without any Inspiration like TBB for Minato's Rasengan..?

None of ninja that created new tech's are God's like Sage to create those tech's from nothing...They must be inspired by something to creat those tech's just like Minato inspired by Tobirama's principal of FTG and TTB for Rasengan

lol

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Plz explain what he is talking abt insted of usng this BS..............XDXDXD

 

[Yanks]

How many shinobi's are there with thire own Jutsu..?

Going by u r logic all of shinobi that existed are copies of Sage...!
Minato didn't got them by birth...and they aren't ass pull's like MS which can be obtained by some sort of mental breakdown...

It require a great deal of skill and hard work to master any of those Tech's he didn't got them on a whim....!

U have any logical proof to say that Tobirama created them without any Inspiration like TBB for Minato's Rasengan..?

None of ninja that created new tech's are God's like Sage to create those tech's from nothing...They must be inspired by something to creat those tech's just like Minato inspired by Tobirama's principal of FTG and TTB for Rasengan

Zzz my (our) point was that
A hater who finds characters with Senju DNA is "cheating" (since it gives a character a major power-up) would say -in this case- Hashirama doesn't count since he has Senju DNA (even though he's a Senju)

Couldn't be more simpler than that :|

 

[Avinash012]

Zzz my (our) point was that
A hater who finds characters with Senju DNA is "cheating" (since it gives a character a major power-up) would say -in this case- Hashirama doesn't count since he has Senju DNA (even though he's a Senju)

Couldn't be more simpler than that :|

K now I get u r point and I agree with u but that man clearly mentioned that we should Exclude barrowed powers namely EDO,EMS,Senju DNA of Madara,Oro and Obito,Bijju's and Rinnegan of Nagato and Obito Etc..So senju DNA isn't a barrowed power since they got that by Birth.....and dnt think Senju DNA will automatically puts u above all other clans ..

Not all Uchiha's / Senju's are as strong as Hashirama and Madara there are alot of fodders in those clan's...

About the points bolded by u in my post : I was refering to Minato not Hashirama

 

[Oblivionx]

hashi, minato sm naruto, dsm kabuto, madara ems, tobirama, itachi, obito , etc

 

[xcoyote]

Minato,3rd Raikage,Mu.
Senjus and Uchihas are just leeching off Juubis powers.

 

[Silverblade]

Itachi Uchiha
or 4th Raikage

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Probably Sasuke.

Minato ''borrowed'' FTG from Tobirama;//... Sasuke shits on Tobirama and Minato, so...

 

[kunde]

Hater: Hashirama doesn't count because he has Senju DNA

^^ Lol this guy. .

hashirama. .

Minato . .

Jiraiya maybe. .

i wouldnt say obito because he has hashi's DNA and can use mokuton because of it. .

 

[kunde]

hashi, minato sm naruto, dsm kabuto, madara ems, tobirama, itachi, obito , etc

madara's EMS has izuna's MS, obito has hashi's DNA :|