[Discussion] Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can beat?

[deva pein]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

Hard to say. I put DD above VA level but below admiral. Somewhere next to Jozu and Ace.

He got Jozu with his Parasite move so he is clearly stronger than him. Ace is not above Vice Admiral level so that is not correct.

 

[Fireplay]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

He got Jozu with his Parasite move so he is clearly stronger than him. Ace is not above Vice Admiral level so that is not correct.

Note: Somewhere next to Jozu and Ace.

DD caught Jozu off guard and he didn't even control him. He simply kept Jozu still not to mention Jozu didn't even know what was going on.

Jozu caught Aokiji off guard and smashed him. Aokiji bled from his mouth...Jozu must be clearly above Aokiji and the admirals then?

Ace melted Aokiji's attack and won the clash...He's clearly above Aokiji right?

Marco caught Aokiji off guard and casually kicked him across MF....Marco is above Aokiji?

Just because Vista was able to hold off Mihawk for awhile does not mean they're on the same level.

 

[Cruciatus]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

In my opinion he is there around equal with Ace/Sabo and maybe little weaker than Fujitora. We will see his power soon.

Ace ain't on the same level as Sabo.

 

[deva pein]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

Note: Somewhere next to Jozu and Ace.

DD caught Jozu off guard and he didn't even control him. He simply kept Jozu still not to mention Jozu didn't even know what was going on.

Jozu caught Aokiji off guard and smashed him. Aokiji bled from his mouth...Jozu must be clearly above Aokiji and the admirals then?

Ace melted Aokiji's attack and won the clash...He's clearly above Aokiji right?

Marco caught Aokiji off guard and casually kicked him across MF....Marco is PK level

Well, Ace clearly had the elemental advantage against Aokiji. He could clash with him but he didn't show any sign of Haki so he is not on the same level as Jozu. Jozu didn't have just 1 clash with Aokiji but he had a battle with him so Jozu and Ace are not on the same level.
If Jozu had sufficient Observation Haki he would have felt it coming. He was caught off guard and that is part of his power.

So the gap between Jozu and Doflamingo is not really big, but certainly there. The gap between Ace and Doffy is big.

 

[Fireplay]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

Well, Ace clearly had the elemental advantage against Aokiji. He could clash with him but he didn't show any sign of Haki so he is not on the same level as Jozu. Jozu didn't have just 1 clash with Aokiji but he had a battle with him so Jozu and Ace are not on the same level.
If Jozu had sufficient Observation Haki he would have felt it coming. He was caught off guard and that is part of his power.

So the gap between Jozu and Doflamingo is not really big, but certainly there. The gap between Ace and Doffy is big.

Getting caught off guard doesn't mean that you don't have good CoO. Now lets assume Jozu doesn't have good CoO and wasn't able to see DD coming because of that. You base him having bad CoO on him getting caught off guard. Aokiji got caught off guard by Marco. Based on that Aokiji has bad CoO aswell...does that mean he can't be above Marco? No.

CoO isn't the same as being omniscient where you can see anything coming from a mile away.

Shanks
Whitebeard
Akainu
Kizaru
Aokiji
Mihawk

have all been shown to either get caught off guard or haven't seen something coming their way. Does that mean their CoO is bad? i find it very hard to believe that all of them have bad CoO. Even Enel got caught off guard by Wiper.

 

[VongolaX]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

Doflamingo is not a Celastial Dragon anymore!

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Yami Blackbeard showed us a few tricks but they won't work against someone as smart as Doflamingo, he is just too smart and too fast to fall for them. He also has got good Haki and some really dangerous attacks.
Crocodile is still a bit below him because Doflamingo is just faster, has better Haki and he is really creative with his fruit.

That's why I stated that as long as he is still king...

He still has power.

By blood he is a celestial dragon.

Why do you think revoking Doflamingo's warlord status didn't work?

He had the government pull some strings.

Blackbeard is an experience pirate that has taken on so many pirates that doflamingo wouldn't dare fight.

 

[ToshiZO]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

A lot of people think he's on admiral level when he attacked Fujitora (which is complete BS) then by that logic Zoro is admiral level which is certainly not the case. Doffy is slightly superior to Crocodile, as mentioned before...

haha.....

enough trolling people.

Anyways. The strongest person Doflamingo can beat imo is Sabo or maybe Jozu. Need to see a bit more before I can say exactly.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

In my opinion Doffy is on par or just below the pre-skip Admirals.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

In my opinion he is there around equal with Ace/Sabo and maybe little weaker than Fujitora. We will see his power soon.

.-. he is way stronger then sabo and ace -______-

back on topic either the admirals (he give them a run for their money) and mihawk

 

[MugiwaraBoy]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

If his strings can't cut through armor haki then he's weaker than I imagine, people say Ace is weak yet he was young and had kings.. give him 2 years and he'd still be above Sabo, it's obvious Ace would have the basic 2 Haki's after the skip.. since everybody does now. I also think people underestimate Luffy.. he's a lot stronger than we would think, probably on par or a tiny bit under Sabo atm.

 

[Anarkist]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

Under Marco.

 

[ultraChalk]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

The answer to that question would be the strongest character in the series.

But the weakest person he can't beat would be... probably BB.

 

[akimofnevis]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

I can agree with this, though I think he's slightly stronger than Croc, I don't think either of the two were really going all out during that war though.

Doffy has all the haki and complete mastery of his devil powers , therefore doffy is way above croc

 

[deva pein]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

If his strings can't cut through armor haki then he's weaker than I imagine, people say Ace is weak yet he was young and had kings.. give him 2 years and he'd still be above Sabo, it's obvious Ace would have the basic 2 Haki's after the skip.. since everybody does now. I also think people underestimate Luffy.. he's a lot stronger than we would think, probably on par or a tiny bit under Sabo atm.

They can cut through Haki if he infuses them with his own Haki. Doflamingo also had Kings Haki, and he mastered it. Ace only showed it once and he didn't have control over it and that was his only Haki feat. Doflamingo showed us at least good Armament and Kings Haki. I don't think Luffy is on par with Sabo, Sabo seems to be a lot stronger and he has a new really strong fruit so Sabo is probably more on Dolfamingo's level, maybe even Marco's.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

Re: Who is the strongest person Doflamingo can't beat?

You clearly don't read the manga too well. Doflamingo isn't a CD anymore. He was one but he isn't anymore.

Yami Blackbeard is without the Gura Gura no mi. So the blackbeard who nearly lost against Ace. He couldn't win against Doflamingo with only his darkness fruit. Crocodile hasn't shown any good feats at Marineford. He would have gotten incapacitated if Doffy infused his slash with some Haki.

Here is the thing, the CP0 turned up clearly on behalf of the WG to aid Doflamingo

Fujitora called Akainu to find out what was up and Akainu was confused

Doflamingo still has strong ties to pull off what he did

He is a pirate, however dont believe for a second he relinquished all ties from his CD background