Who is the strongest person Ay can beat

[Paulson3lt]

I think the strongest would either be Tsunade or M.S Sasuke


What do you guys think?

 

[Omar19992010]

War Arc Gaara

 

[Lariatoo]

That he can or that he always will?
I think base Jiraiya...

 

[DHOH]

Sage mode Jiraiya.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tobirama

 

[RicardoA]

He's definitely not stronger than MS Sasuke.

Even though i consider the three of them superior, I'd say Onoki, Gaara or maybe Itachi.

 

[Red Slayer]

triple Rinnegan Madara and Prime Kaguya at the same time...
but losses to 7g Gai

 

[LuckyMan]

He's definitely not stronger than MS Sasuke.

Kage summit or Danzo fight MS Sasuke loses to Ay.

 

[Beans2]

Tobirama
SM Jiraiya
MS Sasuke...maybe
Gaara
Muu

 

[RicardoA]

Kage summit or Danzo fight MS Sasuke loses to Ay.

Kage summit Sasuke with a begginer's mastery over Enton and a Susanoo's ribcage would've taken two limbs from Ay if it wasn't for Gaara's intervention. That qualifies as a win for me, or at least showcases his superiority.

The Sasuke who fought Danzo was able to fully manifest Susanoo (ribcage, muscle and armour, what is sometimes designated around here as V3) and keep fighting on a higher level for a considerable amount of time. I don't see how it would be possible for a superior version to lose in a fair 1v1 when a weaker version of him already did good against Ay.

 

[LuckyMan]

Kage summit Sasuke with a begginer's mastery over Enton and a Susanoo's ribcage would've taken two limbs from Ay if it wasn't for Gaara's intervention. That qualifies as a win for me, or at least showcases his superiority.

The Sasuke who fought Danzo was able to fully manifest Susanoo (ribcage, muscle and armour, what is sometimes designated around here as V3) and keep fighting on a higher level for a considerable amount of time. I don't see how it would be possible for a superior version to lose in a fair 1v1 when a weaker version of him already did good against Ay.

Sasuke was about to die from the guillotine drop and even if A lost his leg, how does that make Sasuke win? Sasuke is dead. A is alive. How is that a win for Sasuke or a show of superiority over A?

Danzo fight Sasuke still stands no chance. All he got is Susanoo buff and eventually when he let's it down, A swoops in for the kill.

 

[Paulson3lt]

He's definitely not stronger than MS Sasuke.

Even though i consider the three of them superior, I'd say Onoki, Gaara or maybe Itachi.

So you think definitely not MS sasuke but maybe Itachi?

I bet Itachi would do better than MS sasuke

 

[RicardoA]

Sasuke was about to die from the guillotine drop and even if A lost his leg, how does that make Sasuke win? Sasuke is dead. A is alive. How is that a win for Sasuke or a show of superiority over A.

What made you reach that conclusion?
Ay's most powerful physical attack (Ligerbomb) only cracked a

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rib of Sasuke's Susanoo. The rest of his attacks were ineffective. Why would that move be any different?

Danzo fight Sasuke still stands no chance. All he got is Susanoo buff and eventually when he let's it down, A swoops in for the kill.

A Susanoo that has enough might to clash with and likely damage Ay without Sasuke needing to cover it with a wall of Enton.

So you think definitely not MS sasuke but maybe Itachi?

I bet Itachi would do better than MS sasuke

MS Sasuke is definitely superior to Itachi though. And i did include the keyword "maybe" when stating that (meaning Itachi has his chances as well) U_U
I mentioned Itachi because the only jutsu that poses a threat in his arsenal is Susanoo, which he can effectively use only for a very limited period of time.

 

[LuckyMan]

What made you reach that conclusion?
Ay's most powerful physical attack (Ligerbomb) only cracked a

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rib of Sasuke's Susanoo. The rest of his attacks were ineffective. Why would that move be any different?

Darui merely noted no one has ever survived Liger Bomb, not that its his strongest physical attack. His Lateral Chop busted Rib Cage

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so I wouldn't call that ineffective. Even if you were to make the argument that he was only able to do that because it was weakened by Liger Bomb before hand (what most people do) the outcome would not change. Liger Bomb cracked Susanoo and weakened it. Lateral Chop busted through that weakened Susanoo and clipped Sasukes neck. The Guillotine Drop would be the finishing blow. Sasukes head was coming off.

A Susanoo that has enough might to clash with and likely damage Ay without Sasuke needing to cover it with a wall of Enton.

Agreed, but he cant hold that Susanoo for long. He'll get tired of keeping Susanoo up and when he does Ay dashes in for the kill.

 

[New Dawn]

He's definitely not stronger than MS Sasuke.

Even though i consider the three of them superior, I'd say Onoki, Gaara or maybe Itachi.

lol. ****ing joke. itachi stomps that brainless violent bafoon. he got caught by MS genjutsu. LOL. Itachi finger points and its GG.

 

[New Dawn]

Darui merely noted no one has ever survived Liger Bomb, not that its his strongest physical attack. His Lateral Chop busted Rib Cage

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so I wouldn't call that ineffective. Even if you were to make the argument that he was only able to do that because it was weakened by Liger Bomb before hand (what most people do) the outcome would not change. Liger Bomb cracked Susanoo and weakened it. Lateral Chop busted through that weakened Susanoo and clipped Sasukes neck. The Guillotine Drop would be the finishing blow. Sasukes head was coming off.



Agreed, but he cant hold that Susanoo for long. He'll get tired of keeping Susanoo up and when he does Ay dashes in for the kill.

ay was going to lose his limbs against MS sauce. LOL. Ay sucks.

 

[RicardoA]

Darui merely noted no one has ever survived Liger Bomb, not that its his strongest physical attack. His Lateral Chop busted Rib Cage

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so I wouldn't call that ineffective. Even if you were to make the argument that he was only able to do that because it was weakened by Liger Bomb before hand (what most people do) the outcome would not change. Liger Bomb cracked Susanoo and weakened it. Lateral Chop busted through that weakened Susanoo and clipped Sasukes neck. The Guillotine Drop would be the finishing blow. Sasukes head was coming off.

I'm aware of Darui's remark. I claimed it is his strongest attack because it was the most effective and hyped of all his moves.
He never busted through the ribcage through. I've seen that image multiple times as well as the next pages and the ribcage was on and going the whole time. Sasuke even came back with a more evolved Susanoo like a minute after that.
Enton was going to be the finishing move. The moment Ay went for his head, Sasuke could've got out of the way like he did before (

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Agreed, but he cant hold that Susanoo for long. He'll get tired of keeping Susanoo up and when he does Ay dashes in for the kill.

I don't think time would be a problem. He's got everything he needs to deal with Ay: ribcage is enough for defence, enton is enough for offense/defense and an armoured Susanoo is enough for offence.
The Raikage would be outclassed in every department except speed.

lol. ****ing joke. itachi stomps that brainless violent bafoon. he got caught by MS genjutsu. LOL. Itachi finger points and its GG.

You don't seem to like Ay very much :|
Itachi vs Ay would never end in a stomp when both can push eachother to a high level of difficulty regardeless of the result.
Ay already showed he knows how to deal with Sharingan users (like one should expect of any kage). Genjutsu would never be a problem unless Itachi managed to grab him with Susanoo like Madara did. But the chances should be slim.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sick Itachi.​

 

[New Dawn]

I'm aware of Darui's remark. I claimed it is his strongest attack because it was the most effective and hyped of all his moves.
He never busted through the ribcage through. I've seen that image multiple times as well as the next pages and the ribcage was on and going the whole time. Sasuke even came back with a more evolved Susanoo like a minute after that.
Enton was going to be the finishing move. The moment Ay went for his head, Sasuke could've got out of the way like he did before (

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I don't think time would be a problem. He's got everything he needs to deal with Ay: ribcage is enough for defence, enton is enough for offense/defense and an armoured Susanoo is enough for offence.
The Raikage would be outclassed in every department except speed.



You don't seem to like Ay very much :|
Itachi vs Ay would never end in a stomp when both can push eachother to a high level of difficulty regardeless of the result.
Ay already showed he knows how to deal with Sharingan users (like one should expect of any kage). Genjutsu would never be a problem unless Itachi managed to grab him with Susanoo like Madara did. But the chances should be slim.

1. Ay got caught by Madara's MS genjutsu. Madara isn't even known for genjutsu. He is bruiser type. LOL.
2. Itachi can use FINGER genjutsu. I already mentioned that in my previous post.
3. Ay can't smash through Itachi's Susanoo because of Yata.


Fight begins. Ay blitzes and misses. Itachi catches him in finger genjutsu. GG.

Lets say Ay breaks from finger genjutsu, itachi catches him in Tsukuyomi like how Madara caught him in MS genjutsu. GG.

Lets say Itachi was in a good mood and whipped out Susanoo instantly. Yata blocks Ay's blitz and Totsuka seals the brainless man. GG.

No way Ay is beating Itachi. Itachi is just straight up counter to hotheaded guys like Ay.

 

[Red Flag X Drake]

MS Sasuke. Those two were going at it hard and Ay had a slight advantage. Itachi would kill Ay as would Pervy Sage