Who is the smartest character?

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Classifying them according to their specialties (examples only):

-Grandmaster planning - Madara, Black Zetsu
-Future prediction and wisdom - Itachi
-Manipulation - Tobi
-Analyzation of opponent's abilities - Shikamaru, Sasuke, Tobirama
-Battle strategy - Shikaku, Kakashi
-Overall knowledge on the world/jutsus - Orochimaru, Kabuto
Brilliant. I agree a 100%.
 
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The top 3 of each Category:

Strategy - Shikaku, Shikamaru, Kakashi
Analysis - Minato, Itachi, Shikamaru
Wisdom - Hiruzen, Minato, Itachi
Foresight & Planning - Madara, Minato, Itachi
Intellect - Orochimaru, Tobirama, Hiruzen
Knowledge - Orochimaru, Madara, Hiruzen
Quick Thinker - Tobirama, Minato, Itachi
 
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Shikamaru is always ben the deep thinker and strategist and is now Naruto’s adviser the only other Character even close to Him is Shino with His logic.
 

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Classifying them according to their specialties (examples only):

-Grandmaster planning - Madara, Black Zetsu
-Future prediction and wisdom - Itachi
-Manipulation - Tobi
-Analyzation of opponent's abilities - Shikamaru, Sasuke, Tobirama
-Battle strategy - Shikaku, Kakashi
-Overall knowledge on the world/jutsus - Orochimaru, Kabuto
Itachi should fit in at bold too though. :p
 

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Classifying them according to their specialties (examples only):

-Grandmaster planning - Madara, Black Zetsu
-Future prediction and wisdom - Itachi
-Manipulation - Tobi
-Analyzation of opponent's abilities - Shikamaru, Sasuke, Tobirama
-Battle strategy - Shikaku, Kakashi
-Overall knowledge on the world/jutsus - Orochimaru, Kabuto
That's good, but I'd put Madara too right next to Tobi.

Afterall, he was the one who manipulated Obito (set up Rin's death and things like that....)
 

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I find it laughable that people are stating that Orochimaru and Shikmaru are geniuses and yet, are not counting Sasuke because of their own bias, when both characters outright praised Sasuke's rare genius. By manga logic established by Hiruzen and Orochimaru, Sasuke is above Shikamaru and Minato. The feats also back this up. So, here is the list:

1 - Orochimaru / Tobirama / Shikaku- The smartest people.
2 - Itachi / Sasuke.
3 - Sasuke / Itachi.
4 - Tsunade / Shikamaru / Kabuto.
5 - Madara.

The manga tells us Shikmaru is a genius. To put it this way:

Sasuke/Madara analytical abilities are above the average normal shinobi.

Shikamaru on the other-hand will perform the same way, except at the same time he devised; Plans, strategies, and formulas to take down his opponent in further steps than a normal man could (Manga stated he had thought up to 1 - 100 ways to defeat a single person). Even with intelligence, no one in this manga lives up to that.
Joke of the century, when Shikamaru confessed that he looked up to Sasuke in everything and Orochimaru outright stated that Sasuke made his own genius look pitiful when he was his age. And according to Hiruzen, Orochimaru was once in a life time genius. That puts Sasuke - at that age - once in a few life times genius. Get out.
 

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^^^ Lol

This guy doesn't understand what it means to be referred to as a genius in this manga XD

It's not referring to being intellectual or smart. Even Lee was called a genius. Just cuz sasuke isn't on people's lists, doesn't mean you have to get upset. Talks about bias, but you too are bias towards Sasuke.
 

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^^^ Lol

This guy doesn't understand what it means to be referred to as a genius in this manga XD

It's not referring to being intellectual or smart. Even Lee was called a genius. Just cuz sasuke isn't on people's lists, doesn't mean you have to get upset. Talks about bias, but you too are bias towards Sasuke.
Your self-interpretation of the dialogues? Yes, it is expected given that those were referring to his intellectual smarts. No, I appear biased because I am pointing out something simple the manga and by extension the creator have stated: Sasuke outclasses Minato's intelligence by a few life times. It's the manga's statement.

Your self-spin on it that 'no no no, that's not what that means' doesn't even concern me, when Sasuke has been termed a prodigy, a rare genius, a highly gifted individual several times in the manga by several people, including Kakashi, Shikamru, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, and Chee as well. I am not even counting Lee and other praise-givers. But hey, they weren't talking about his intellect, but something else. It's about time you Minato fans got over it.

Funny, I absolutely loathe Tobirama as a character, and yet, I have placed him two tiers above Sasuke. Since I am so biased. Point that arrow at yourself.
 

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Your self-interpretation of the dialogues? Yes, it is expected given that those were referring to his intellectual smarts. No, I appear biased because I am pointing out something simple the manga and by extension the creator have stated: Sasuke outclasses Minato's intelligence by a few life times. It's the manga's statement.

Your self-spin on it that 'no no no, that's not what that means' doesn't even concern me, when Sasuke has been termed a prodigy, a rare genius, a highly gifted individual several times in the manga by several people, including Kakashi, Shikamru, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, and Chee as well. I am not even counting Lee and other praise-givers. But hey, they weren't talking about his intellect, but something else. It's about time you Minato fans got over it.

Funny, I absolutely loathe Tobirama as a character, and yet, I have placed him two tiers above Sasuke. Since I am so biased. Point that arrow at yourself.
XD always hilarious reading your sasuke wank

Sasuke is a blank canvas that can be easily painted over - Itachi
He's not as smart as Itachi - Black Zetsu

I russled you, hence why you're bringing up minato Lol. Someone like sasuke who can be manipulated by just about anyone, throw hissy fits for everything that doesn't go his way, and then constantly change his mind on what his goals and objectives are, doesn't make me put him up there as one of the smartest. He's so dumb, he actaully thought he could challenge all of the 5 kage and come out alive by himself.

Keep telling yourself lies to make yourself feel better
 

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hogoromo know contest. He was smarter than everyone else. He could bring back back the dead to help him. That is unparalleled knowledge right there. He is probably one of the most underated characters since he created ninjitsu, ninshuu. Itachi come in a close second since he was smarter than sasuke and everyone else.
 
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Joke of the century, when Shikamaru confessed that he looked up to Sasuke in everything and Orochimaru outright stated that Sasuke made his own genius look pitiful when he was his age. And according to Hiruzen, Orochimaru was once in a life time genius. That puts Sasuke - at that age - once in a few life times genius. Get out.
I thought you couldn't sink any lower. Orochimaru`s genius should never be compared to someone on the level of an Uchiha. Orochimaru was defeated by a 13 year old Itachi, and taking that into consideration you believe him calling Sasuke a genius means something important? Sasuke has never once shown interest in Orochimaru`s habits of gaining knowledge via experiments (Why he was hailed a Genius in the first place). To put Sasuke on the level of Shikimaru who can think 100 steps ahead and calculate battle strategies like out of thin air, towards an Uchiha who has higher than average sustainable analytical abilities? Joke of the era.

Shame. Sasuke isn't even on Minato`s level of genius; Created the Rasengan from watching the Tailed Beast, and performed/upgraded the S/T ninjutsu the 2nd created singlehandedly. Not to mention Minato comes from no special origin unlike Sasuke, nor did he have any constant handouts thrown out him.

You truly have lost my respect here. Please do not quote me anymore with pathetic Sasuke-wank.

Yours truly,

Raizel
 
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Not in order

Tobirama (The guys a Genius)
Itachi
Shikaku (Can come up with strategies on the Spot)
Minato (Able to analyze and figure out Kamui in the middle of Battle)
Kakash (Confirmed to be as smart as Shikamaru and came up with the Plan to beat Kaguya)
Madara (Created the Master Plan and would've succeeded if not for a Betrayal and is a master Manipulator)
Sasuke (Great strategist and is Smart in the Middle of Battle)
Shikamaru
Obito (Manipulated the Akatuski and countless Villages and carried on the Moon of the Eye Plan)
Orochimaru
 
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Battlesmart only, not in order.

Naruto ( vs Pain, Kakuzu, 3 raikage, edo jinch, also by feats he should be above Neji whom people often mention

Sasuke

Black Zetsu

Shikaku

Itachi

Minato

Madara

Kakashi
 

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XD always hilarious reading your sasuke wank

Sasuke is a blank canvas that can be easily painted over - Itachi
He's not as smart as Itachi - Black Zetsu

I russled you, hence why you're bringing up minato Lol. Someone like sasuke who can be manipulated by just about anyone, throw hissy fits for everything that doesn't go his way, and then constantly change his mind on what his goals and objectives are, doesn't make me put him up there as one of the smartest. He's so dumb, he actaully thought he could challenge all of the 5 kage and come out alive by himself.

Keep telling yourself lies to make yourself feel better
Don't worry, the feeling of hilarity is mutual given how you are blatantly denying manga scans and dialogues to feed your own stone-age Minato wankery. As if that is a nice side of the same old, poor picture of a garden variety Minato fanboy.

Viz - BZ: "You are more dense than Itachi." It's always good to read the actual translation.
The blank canvas is not even remotely related to intelligence. Your lame arguments are as reaching as ever.

Rustled me? I made my own post without quoting you. How did you actually manage to bother me? Let's not flatter ourselves here, shall we. It sincerely doesn't suit you. The rest of them are your garbage opinions wrought by stupidtiy, lack of comprehension, reading poor manga and crap in general, because none of what you stated has anything to do with intelligence - that would be temperament.

Also, look below for actual manga evidence. I think no one should care about your poor and cheap fan-fictions, laced with a decade of ejaculation over Minato's fruity blond hair, when the manga has given Sasuke that tier. Not me. So I'll gladly take the manga's clear cut verdict over the typical fey Minato fanboy's daily delusions.

I thought you couldn't sink any lower. Orochimaru`s genius should never be compared to someone on the level of an Uchiha. Orochimaru was defeated by a 13 year old Itachi, and taking that into consideration you believe him calling Sasuke a genius means something important? Sasuke has never once shown interest in Orochimaru`s habits of gaining knowledge via experiments (Why he was hailed a Genius in the first place). To put Sasuke on the level of Shikimaru who can think 100 steps ahead and calculate battle strategies like out of thin air, towards an Uchiha who has higher than average sustainable analytical abilities? Joke of the era.

Shame. Sasuke isn't even on Minato`s level of genius; Created the Rasengan from watching the Tailed Beast, and performed/upgraded the S/T ninjutsu the 2nd created singlehandedly. Not to mention Minato comes from no special origin unlike Sasuke, nor did he have any constant handouts thrown out him.

You truly have lost my respect here. Please do not quote me anymore with pathetic Sasuke-wank.

Yours truly,

Raizel
That Ashura argument is still stinging, I see. Also, the lower plane of your stupidity probably has no lower plane - paradox - when Intelligence and power tiers are not even interchangeable. The manga has established Orochimaru as one out of the two most intelligent people in the entire manga. Your opinions are as worthless as they can be on this front.

Sasuke created his own techniques himself, and battle analysis is not topped by anyone in the entire manga. Several characters can attest to that.

Oh look, you have moronic band-wagoners who liked this absurd post. Why am I not surprised?

Yeah, and scans for all. Fun scans that has little to do with your rubbish:

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Sasuke fooling a Sanin in battle, flaking his skin off:

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As for Orochimaru, then here is what Hiruzen had to state:

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Here is what Orochimaru has to state - he puts Sasuke's genius above his when on the same age tier:

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Shikamaru accepts Sasuke is above him in everything. The manga itself through Shikamaru disagrees with you:

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Here's more:

Lee: Sasuke is the rare genius. When he actually knew Neji, who was a prodigy.
Jiraiya: Minato is once a decade Genius. That would make Orochimaru, canonically, far superior in intelligence, given that Hiruzen calls him once in a life time genius. And conversely, Orochimaru - when he was Sasuke's age - calls his own genius worthless before Sasuke's.


I am sorry, should I be concerned about this garbage? And I haven't even touched upon Jiraiya, Chee, and Kakashi himself calling Sasuke a rare genius. Get over yourselves.
 
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