[Discussion] who is stronger

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Well kensei clearly failed to take out a captain, love was able to block the punch an not even move out the spot he was in..



No again stark ceros are weak like I said.... Hollow Ichigo that was fighting love was weak compared to the Ichigo that fought ulquiorria the second time around he used his getsuga tensho at full power an did not even scratch r1 ulquiorria I'm pretty sure that getsuga tensho was way stronger than that cero that he shot at love....like I said stark don't know that ulquiorria can't regenerate his organs he don't even know of his r2 form....rose an love like I said took multiple wolves exploding on them in there base forms an stood up afterwards meaning those wolves are not really that strong seeing as love an rose aren't really that tough, clearly not tough as ulquiorria.
That doesn't make Kensei weak it just makes Love tough.

Starrk Ceros aren't weak you're gonna have to prove the Ichigo that fought Live is weaker than the one who fought Ulq. Him not being hurt in R1 is irrelevant because R1 Ulq is weaker than Starrk and his ceros were stronger than Ichigo's GT. Ulq can't re gen organs that why he died, Starrk nearly killed Love and Rose and even said the next wave of wolves would of killed them.
 

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That doesn't make Kensei weak it just makes Love tough.

Starrk Ceros aren't weak you're gonna have to prove the Ichigo that fought Live is weaker than the one who fought Ulq. Him not being hurt in R1 is irrelevant because R1 Ulq is weaker than Starrk and his ceros were stronger than Ichigo's GT. Ulq can't re gen organs that why he died, Starrk nearly killed Love and Rose and even said the next wave of wolves would of killed them.

Lol no it shows that kensei really was not that strong..they could have been took him out but did not want to hurt him.

Prove that his cero are weak ok here we go he shot kyoraku right in the back kyoraku was not really hurt at all just played like he was I believe he shot a cero at love an love easily deflected it...that Ichigo was weak that Ichigo did not even have his mask mastered yet lol wasn't Lisa putting up a good fight against him lol also Shinji with hollow mask on was barely overpowering a one arm base grimmjow a grimmjow which Ichigo later on beat in battle in heuco mundo an last I recall Shinji an gang won't even useing their hollow mask in the fight when fighting against that hollow Ichigo..an Ichigo got even stronger after beating Grimmjow seeing as in his first fight with base ulq he could not even scratch him to forcing him to use his release in their second fight..

R1 ulquiorra is weaker than stark lol no he may not have the attack arsonal like stark does but he is physically tougher an stronger he might be faster not sure... like grimmjow said those numbers don't really mean nothing....no one of stark cero were not stronger than Ichigo getsuga tensho if so kyoraku would have not gotten back up after taking a clear shot...an yea he nearly killed them after hitting them mutiple times lol one of ulquiorra green javelins would have killed them in a single hit.
 

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Ulq wins shunsui was dodging start ceros and he's atleast a tier below R1 ULQ let alone his second form

these clowns using that shitty number system barragan negs yammi and he was 0 so those numbers mean nothing and halibel was just garbage losing to toshiro
 

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You're all forgetting the fact that Starrk's mere existence was killing Adjuchas hollows just because his spiritual pressure was so high, which is why he decided to split himself in two so he could become "Weak". Do you honestly think that Aizen had no knowledge of Ulquiorra's second form? It's Aizen We're talking about. If Ulquiorra was superior then why didn't Aizen take him to battle the Gotei 13? Why did he leave him in Las Noches? I really don't get the logic that fanboys use Lol. Also, Espada are also ranked by reiatsu, not by their combat prowess

So what's next? Ulquiorra can kill Kyoraku or Ukitake?
 
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Lol no it shows that kensei really was not that strong..they could have been took him out but did not want to hurt him.

Prove that his cero are weak ok here we go he shot kyoraku right in the back kyoraku was not really hurt at all just played like he was I believe he shot a cero at love an love easily deflected it...that Ichigo was weak that Ichigo did not even have his mask mastered yet lol wasn't Lisa putting up a good fight against him lol also Shinji with hollow mask on was barely overpowering a one arm base grimmjow a grimmjow which Ichigo later on beat in battle in heuco mundo an last I recall Shinji an gang won't even useing their hollow mask in the fight when fighting against that hollow Ichigo..an Ichigo got even stronger after beating Grimmjow seeing as in his first fight with base ulq he could not even scratch him to forcing him to use his release in their second fight..

R1 ulquiorra is weaker than stark lol no he may not have the attack arsonal like stark does but he is physically tougher an stronger he might be faster not sure... like grimmjow said those numbers don't really mean nothing....no one of stark cero were not stronger than Ichigo getsuga tensho if so kyoraku would have not gotten back up after taking a clear shot...an yea he nearly killed them after hitting them mutiple times lol one of ulquiorra green javelins would have killed them in a single hit.
The numbers DO have meaning lol. Why would Aizen create the system in the first place if it was useless?
 

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You're all forgetting the fact that Starrk's mere existence was killing Adjuchas hollows just because his spiritual pressure was so high, which is why he decided to split himself in two so he could become "Weak". Do you honestly think that Aizen had no knowledge of Ulquiorra's second form? It's Aizen We're talking about. If Ulquiorra was superior then why didn't Aizen take him to battle the Gotei 13? Why did he leave him in Las Noches? I really don't get the logic that fanboys use Lol. Also, Espada are also ranked by reiatsu, not by their combat prowess

So what's next? Ulquiorra can kill Kyoraku or Ukitake?
He left ulqiorra there so he could push ichigo to new heights of his power plus he took oriheme from the real world so its only right aizen left him behind.
 
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