Who is stronger, Jiraiya in SM or Naruto in SM

[Prefontaine]

Jiraiya has more experience, a wider array of techniques, and can fuse with Ma and Pa to increase his ability. Naruto has more stamina and a stronger single jutsu (in RS) but if you were comparing the two, I would guess Jiraiya is better overall.

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

What he's saying is that if not for the 9 tails Naruto would not have won

Is it really necessary for some to say if not?......but why are people acting so childish? Okay won't it sound awkward if I say if not that God gave you hands you won't be using it to type now? I mean it is ridiculous to say that because no matter what I do or say now, the hands are yours you are the one using it not God same logic applies to naruto

 

[Edo Odin]

Naruto.. Jman lost to the six paths naruto beat them soo yea..

Bro, I hope you're trolling ?

1. Jiraiya fought them with zero knowledge, while Naruto had ma/pa/Katsyuu with him, which all had some knowledge
2. Naruto had to enter Sage Mode 3 times to be able to take out the 5 paths, Jiraiya took out three, and then gut jumped by Asura
3. Deva Path wasn't able to use his techniques until after 4 of the 6 paths had been beaten, and after he got his power back, it took him around 1 minute to overwhelm Naruto
4. Naruto's SM wasn't even enough, he needed help from the Kyuubi to beat them.

OT: I think Naruto's SM is stronger, it was stated by Pa that Jiraiya never even mastered SM, + Naruto can enter it in around 5 seconds now that he's perfected it

 

[Namikaze Senju]

we cant say which one is stronger bcos they are both sage mode but looking at experience, jiraiya would be able to use it better than naruto

 

[saw2097]

Bro, I hope you're trolling ?

1. Jiraiya fought them with zero knowledge, while Naruto had ma/pa/Katsyuu with him, which all had some knowledge
2. Naruto had to enter Sage Mode 3 times to be able to take out the 5 paths, Jiraiya took out three, and then gut jumped by Asura
3. Deva Path wasn't able to use his techniques until after 4 of the 6 paths had been beaten, and after he got his power back, it took him around 1 minute to overwhelm Naruto
4. Naruto's SM wasn't even enough, he needed help from the Kyuubi to beat them.

OT: I think Naruto's SM is stronger, it was stated by Pa that Jiraiya never even mastered SM, + Naruto can enter it in around 5 seconds now that he's perfected it

Actually when Deva Path overwhelmed Naruto he was no longer in Sage Mode and Deva Path killed Pa so he couldn't help him.

Pain had seen the Toad Song Jutsu before thats why he killed Pa if he hadn't Naruto would have won without using the 9 tails.

 

[sam i am]

Is it really necessary for some to say if not?......but why are people acting so childish? Okay won't it sound awkward if I say if not that God gave you hands you won't be using it to type now? I mean it is ridiculous to say that because no matter what I do or say now, the hands are yours you are the one using it not God same logic applies to naruto

yes it is necessary to say 'if not,' because the question was asking about sage mode, and although naruto did beat the 6 paths, he wasn't only using sage mode to do it

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

Bro, I hope you're trolling ?

1. Jiraiya fought them with zero knowledge, while Naruto had ma/pa/Katsyuu with him, which all had some knowledge
2. Naruto had to enter Sage Mode 3 times to be able to take out the 5 paths, Jiraiya took out three, and then gut jumped by Asura
3. Deva Path wasn't able to use his techniques until after 4 of the 6 paths had been beaten, and after he got his power back, it took him around 1 minute to overwhelm Naruto
4. Naruto's SM wasn't even enough, he needed help from the Kyuubi to beat them.

OT: I think Naruto's SM is stronger, it was stated by Pa that Jiraiya never even mastered SM, + Naruto can enter it in around 5 seconds now that he's perfected it

Naruto did not use kurama's power to beat them he only fought deva with kurama's power. He took out 5 pains with sage mode were you blind when watching that fight?

 

[Namikaze Senju]

we cannot also say that bcos jiraiya was beaten by pain and naruto defeated pain means naruto is stronger. The reason naruto was able to defeat pain was bcos of mainly two reason
1: he has the idea of the power of all the pain
2: he has the nine tails

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

yes it is necessary to say 'if not,' because the question was asking about sage mode, and although naruto did beat the 6 paths, he wasn't only using sage mode to do it

Yeah it only children who think like that.the fight is long over and here are people saying if not....bla bla bla such are people who don't accept they loose have to let go something

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

we cannot also say that bcos jiraiya was beaten by pain and naruto defeated pain means naruto is stronger. The reason naruto was able to defeat pain was bcos of mainly two reason
1: he has the idea of the power of all the pain
2: he has the nine tails

It wouldn't have resulted to that had it being someone never thought of causing flame.this was a simple question that needed simple answer but some guys enjoy causing flames

 

[Chatte]

Naruto might be stronger but Jiraya is more intelligent and has more experience.

 

[saw2097]

Naruto might be stronger but Jiraya is more intelligent and has more experience.

I think that this is the best answer.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

not saying this because am a jiraiya fan, but jiraiya's sage mode is a lot more effective than naruto's or in other words jiraiya is not alone in his SM (two other masters are with him and they can fight), also jiraiya's experience allow him to get more out of sage mode than naruto. now its true that naruto perfected SM but that means that it will not affect his appearance (he won't look like a frog), jiraiya's knowledge and battle experience allowed him to figure out pains secret and naruto failed against pain even with help from the frogs, prepared clones for extra SM and THE INFO, and never say that naruto's SM defeated pain coz the six tails kyuubi is the reason pain lost (thanks to hinata).

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

not saying this because am a jiraiya fan, but jiraiya's sage mode is a lot more effective than naruto's or in other words jiraiya is not alone in his SM (two other masters are with him and they can fight), also jiraiya's experience allow him to get more out of sage mode than naruto. now its true that naruto perfected SM but that means that it will not affect his appearance (he won't look like a frog), jiraiya's knowledge and battle experience allowed him to figure out pains secret and naruto failed against pain even with help from the frogs, prepared clones for extra SM and THE INFO, and never say that naruto's SM defeated pain coz the six tails kyuubi is the reason pain lost (thanks to hinata).

Okay since all of you want to act childish let me join you.if not for madara's renin nagato wouldn't stand a chance against naruto.fair enough huh?

 

[Tagen]

Is it really necessary for some to say if not?......but why are people acting so childish? Okay won't it sound awkward if I say if not that God gave you hands you won't be using it to type now? I mean it is ridiculous to say that because no matter what I do or say now, the hands are yours you are the one using it not God same logic applies to naruto

English is too strong with this one. How about forming a decent argument before calling someone 'childish'

 

[saw2097]

not saying this because am a jiraiya fan, but jiraiya's sage mode is a lot more effective than naruto's or in other words jiraiya is not alone in his SM (two other masters are with him and they can fight), also jiraiya's experience allow him to get more out of sage mode than naruto. now its true that naruto perfected SM but that means that it will not affect his appearance (he won't look like a frog), jiraiya's knowledge and battle experience allowed him to figure out pains secret and naruto failed against pain even with help from the frogs, prepared clones for extra SM and THE INFO, and never say that naruto's SM defeated pain coz the six tails kyuubi is the reason pain lost (thanks to hinata).

Actually Pain only gained the upper hand when Naruto was no longer in Sage Mode. Naruto had one clone left, if Pa hadn't been killed he could have summoned it and defeated Deva Path.

 

[Tagen]

Actually Pain only gained the upper hand when Naruto was no longer in Sage Mode. Naruto had one clone left, if Pa hadn't been killed he could have summoned it and defeated Deva Path.

But thats the thing, Pa was killed, and did not summon it.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Okay since all of you want to act childish let me join you.if not for madara's renin nagato wouldn't stand a chance against naruto.fair enough huh?

what ?? i didn't mean it in the sense that kurama is not naruto's power (even though naruto didn't control kurama at that time), the thread maker asked about SM and my answer was only about SM, naruto in SM and with the knowledge failed and an unleashed OUT OF CONTROL kurama (not naruto) gave pain all sorts of trouble and if naruto mastered the kyuubi's power at that time i would have given him the credit but again this is about SM. also did you just say that nagato is nothing without rinnegan :sy: he mastered it and has total control over it so .... slow down and write well thought posts before jumping in to make a silly point

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

English is too strong with this one. How about forming a decent argument before calling someone 'childish'

Don't wanna be rude but why ask me to form a decent argument I gave a stupid reply to a stupid and senseless post so why pick it on me.guess you are one of those 'if not' dude and yeah I forgot to re read my post

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Actually Pain only gained the upper hand when Naruto was no longer in Sage Mode. Naruto had one clone left, if Pa hadn't been killed he could have summoned it and defeated Deva Path.

the main reason naruto stood a chance against pain was the info and a bit of the prepared clones so ..... deva path had all of nagato's chakra and focus, naruto would have never defeated him if the kyuubi didn't go crazy (it was an accident)