Who is smarter? Itachi vs. Shikamaru!

[Jazzy Stardust]

Itachi has a deep wisdom of life which makes him more knowledgeable, Shikamaru is just a genius strategist. Being intelligent in one area doesn't compare.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Since we know all of Itachi's abilities (he isn't a recurring character anymore) please list the way that he would of killed him. I'm very interested how he could of bypassed kamui using sasuke's eyes.

When the black flames hit obito his space time jutsu became useless so if anything he had to use izanagi to escape it now if itachi knew he had izanagi he would have also installed izanami to go off right after the Amaterasu. Cuz izanami is for people that use izanagi to escape death or there fate they wer givin so ether orbiti would have kept burning or he would have been trapped in genjutsu.

 

[Unbiased]

When the black flames hit obito his space time jutsu became useless so if anything he had to use izanagi to escape it now if itachi knew he had izanagi he would have also installed izanami to go off right after the Amaterasu. Cuz izanami is for people that use izanagi to escape death or there fate they wer givin so ether orbiti would have kept burning or he would have been trapped in genjutsu.

Itachi did this to sasuke

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. Itachi has only displayed the ability to seal amaterasu into someones sharingan. You can speculate he can do that with izanami or izanagi but he's never done anything of the sort.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Itachi did this to sasuke

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. Itachi has only displayed the ability to seal amaterasu into someones sharingan. You can speculate he can do that with izanami or izanagi but he's never done anything of the sort.

Um if he installed Amaterasu witch is a sharingan tec an he installed his ms in sasuke then he should be able to install anyone he wants to go off if he chooses so, we know he has the power to install things an make them go off at the right moments so with saying that we kno he should have been able to install izanami an have sasuke use it as well...Tobi knew if itachi knew he had izanagi he would have prevented him from useing it.

 

[foxyladyland]

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Tobi would regret to have shikamaru has an opponent

Shikamaru has incredible strategic & analytical skills.

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Shikimaru: Regret Itachi: Dead

Itachi can catch you in genjutsu without you even knowing it.. even with a Sharingan. unless he makes it predictable.
Tobi would expect it probably, knowing Itachi's talents and all.

Not quite. Itachi had no way of killing him with a Mangekyou trap eye. Amaterasu he could phase through for example. The mental trauma from tsukuyomi has never killed anyone so Itachi didn't have a chance in hell.

They were left in a COMA. (Kakashi,Sasuke) if untreated.. they would have DIED.. but people care about them so they didn't.

When the black flames hit obito his space time jutsu became useless so if anything he had to use izanagi to escape it now if itachi knew he had izanagi he would have also installed izanami to go off right after the Amaterasu. Cuz izanami is for people that use izanagi to escape death or there fate they wer givin so ether orbiti would have kept burning or he would have been trapped in genjutsu.

he wouldn't have been able to rig both jutsu in Sasuke's eye because Sasuke would have to move his body .

Itachi did this to sasuke

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. Itachi has only displayed the ability to seal amaterasu into someones sharingan. You can speculate he can do that with izanami or izanagi but he's never done anything of the sort.

Izanagi might need SENJU DNA (which Sasuke doesn't have)as well as Sharingan to perform..
if he programmed Izanami for Sasuke's eye , Sasuke would have to perform the jutsu's Loop which he was clueless.

Um if he installed Amaterasu witch is a sharingan tec an he installed his ms in sasuke then he should be able to install anyone he wants to go off if he chooses so, we know he has the power to install things an make them go off at the right moments so with saying that we kno he should have been able to install izanami an have sasuke use it as well...Tobi knew if itachi knew he had izanagi he would have prevented him from useing it.

im sure Itachi COULD install Izanami in Sasuke's eye , but Izanagi/Izanami both KILLS the SHARINGAN.. forever..
So Itachi wouldn't have rigged those for Sasuke's use.. plus Tobi(Madara) knows about IzanaGI/MI..
Sasuke doesn't know how to perform those jutsu and would need to be taught..

 

[Fodder#4]

Itachi stomps

Who unbanned you?!

OT: Shikamaru.

 

[Professor Finesser]

L is smarter than both of them >.>

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Shikamaru has incredible strategic & analytical skills.



Itachi can catch you in genjutsu without you even knowing it.. even with a Sharingan. unless he makes it predictable.
Tobi would expect it probably, knowing Itachi's talents and all.

They were left in a COMA. (Kakashi,Sasuke) if untreated.. they would have DIED.. but people care about them so they didn't.



he wouldn't have been able to rig both jutsu in Sasuke's eye because Sasuke would have to move his body .

Izanagi might need SENJU DNA (which Sasuke doesn't have)as well as Sharingan to perform..
if he programmed Izanami for Sasuke's eye , Sasuke would have to perform the jutsu's Loop which he was clueless.


im sure Itachi COULD install Izanami in Sasuke's eye , but Izanagi/Izanami both KILLS the SHARINGAN.. forever..
So Itachi wouldn't have rigged those for Sasuke's use.. plus Tobi(Madara) knows about IzanaGI/MI..
Sasuke doesn't know how to perform those jutsu and would need to be taught..

Sasuke would have to move his body?

Yea it kills the sharingan that's why it's called install new eyes witch sasuke knos about from itachi so he would have found someway to install itachi eyes hisself..an yes if it mabey killing madara he would have done so..sasuke would need to be taught? He was not even taught how to use Amaterasu itachi would have just made it activate right when it needed to be activated simple.

 

[Morakis]

Experience is an important powerup to intelligence ! The way i see it Shikamaru made a serious tactical mistake when he went to face Kakuzu-Hidan with only Chouji- Ino and with little knowledge of Kakuzu's abilities , he could be dead now if not for Kakashi and Team 7 , Itachi would never do this mistake !
Maybe with more EXP Shikamaru is superior even to Shikaku but now i chose Itachi

 

[foxyladyland]

Sasuke would have to move his body?

Yea it kills the sharingan that's why it's called install new eyes witch sasuke knos about from itachi so he would have found someway to install itachi eyes hisself..an yes if it mabey killing madara he would have done so..sasuke would need to be taught? He was not even taught how to use Amaterasu itachi would have just made it activate right when it needed to be activated simple.

I know about replacing his eyes with Itachi's , but Izanami is different..
Can he use different sharingan MS jutsu while using MS genjutsu simultaneously?
I assume izanami is MS genjutsu since Itachi's MS was activated while he used it.

Sasuke didn't need to be taught how Amateratsu worked because it was programmed and he witnessed Itachi using it.
Also it was apart of Sasuke's MS jutsu automatically..
Izanami is a jutsu that has to be taught as Sasuke pretty much indicated while asking Itachi how it works..

Itachi said you and your opponent have to be touching bodies for Izanami to work..
So either Sasuke will have to move OR Tobi will have to make contact with his body.
Itachi memorized Tobi's Sharingan , but you cant program a sharingan to activate at the contact of a person's body..
if you don't know how their body feels yet.. (we don't know if Itachi ever physically felt Tobi's body) maybe he did..

Also Sasuke didn't awake his own MS yet (at that time) so EMS wouldn't have been gained if he transplanted Itachi's MS.

 

[2big]

I mean if your really think about it itachi is smarter, he has shown it more ofter then shik. shik is more hype of being smart then itachi but itachi is still smarter

 

[Fireplay]

Shikamaru is smarter while Itachi has more knowledge on things and is wiser.

 

[narutokage99]

Shikamaru is smarter...

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I know about replacing his eyes with Itachi's , but Izanami is different..
Can he use different sharingan MS jutsu while using MS genjutsu simultaneously?
I assume izanami is MS genjutsu since Itachi's MS was activated while he used it.

Sasuke didn't need to be taught how Amateratsu worked because it was programmed and he witnessed Itachi using it.
Also it was apart of Sasuke's MS jutsu automatically..
Izanami is a jutsu that has to be taught as Sasuke pretty much indicated while asking Itachi how it works..

Itachi said you and your opponent have to be touching bodies for Izanami to work..
So either Sasuke will have to move OR Tobi will have to make contact with his body.
Itachi memorized Tobi's Sharingan , but you cant program a sharingan to activate at the contact of a person's body..
if you don't know how their body feels yet.. (we don't know if Itachi ever physically felt Tobi's body) maybe he did..

Also Sasuke didn't awake his own MS yet (at that time) so EMS wouldn't have been gained if he transplanted Itachi's MS.

No he uses Amaterasu first then he uses izanami..

Yea itachi programmed it to activate just like he can do with izanami..Izanami does not have to be taught he just asked itachi how it works..you don't have to be touching bodies you use ur sharingan an memorize ur opponents body sensation.

The moment he used Amaterasu he had ms his eyes even connected like ms always does so what you talkin about?

 

[Professor Finesser]

L, Light, and Lelouch solo both of them intelligence wise

 

[Fireplay]

L, Light, and Lelouch solo both of them intelligence wise

^This is pretty much it.

 

[foxyladyland]

No he uses Amaterasu first then he uses izanami..

Yea itachi programmed it to activate just like he can do with izanami..Izanami does not have to be taught he just asked itachi how it works..you don't have to be touching bodies you use ur sharingan an memorize ur opponents body sensation.

The moment he used Amaterasu he had ms his eyes even connected like ms always does so what you talkin about?

Izanami isn't a jutsu you automatically learn without knowledge of it..
However since Amateratsu, Tsukuyomi, Susano'o are natural MS jutsu so it comes natural to use them.
Izanami would only be naturally used by the one who invented it, Itachi probably learned it from Tobi..
Plus it requires sharing body vibration with your target and amateratsu wouldn't give you that.

The MS that appeared in Sasuke's eye was Itachi's ONLY at that time .. Sasuke hadn't awakened his OWN MS then.
& it was only in 1 eye (which he used amateratsu).

If Sasuke didn't know about it he wouldn't be able to use Izanami... he could now after seeing Itachi.
it still wouldn't have worked though , because Tobi could just Kamui himself away.

 

[scorezor]

I think that would be an epic shogi battle.

man , this guy said it all ahahhah.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Izanami isn't a jutsu you automatically learn without knowledge of it..
However since Amateratsu, Tsukuyomi, Susano'o are natural MS jutsu so it comes natural to use them.
Izanami would only be naturally used by the one who invented it, Itachi probably learned it from Tobi..
Plus it requires sharing body vibration with your target and amateratsu wouldn't give you that.

The MS that appeared in Sasuke's eye was Itachi's ONLY at that time .. Sasuke hadn't awakened his OWN MS then.
& it was only in 1 eye (which he used amateratsu).

If Sasuke didn't know about it he wouldn't be able to use Izanami... he could now after seeing Itachi.
it still wouldn't have worked though , because Tobi could just Kamui himself away.

Sasuke never used tsukiyomi or Amaterasu in his life you also have to get use to them but if itachi installs it an programs he can allow sasuke to use it..an you don't have to come in contact with the person body you use ur eyes how many times will I have to say that smh.

Sasuke ms was awaken even obito said he transferred his techs to sasuke, then a little time after he showed off his ms so yea it was awaken he just never showed it.

Sasuke not knowing don't mean nonthing you talk as if it was sasuke choice to use Amaterasu on obito if itachi programmed izanami to go off then it would have activated, if itachi wants it to happen it will just happen...an how is Tobi supposed to Kumui away he would not even kno it's coming.

Ps: izanami is not a ms tec itachi said uchihas's use to use this tec to escape there fate..and only madara,izuna,itachi,sasuke an obito are the only uchiha's to unluck ms