Who is more intelligent
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Separated categorically rather than for each individual to make for easier comparisons.
Ninjutsu
Naruto: F
Sasuke: A
Shikamaru: B
Chouji: B
Kiba: B
Shino: A
Hinata: B
Sakura: B
Ino: A
Taijutsu
Naruto: B
Sasuke: A
Shikamaru: C
Chouji: B
Kiba: A
Shino: B
Hinata: A
Sakura: C
Ino: B
Genjutsu
Naruto: F
Sasuke: A
Shikamaru: C
Chouji: C
Kiba: C
Shino: B
Hinata: B
Sakura: B
Ino: B
Cooperation
Naruto: F
Sasuke: F
Shikamaru: B
Chouji: B
Kiba: C
Shino: B
Hinata: A
Sakura: B
Ino: B
Positivity
Naruto: A
Sasuke: C
Shikamaru: C
Chouji: B
Kiba: A
Shino: C
Hinata: F
Sakura: B
Ino: A
Classroom Attitude
Naruto: F
Sasuke: B
Shikamaru: F
Chouji: C
Kiba: C
Shino: B
Hinata: A
Sakura: A
Ino: B
Separated categorically rather than for each individual to make for easier comparisons.
Ninjutsu
Naruto: F
Sasuke: A
Shikamaru: B
Chouji: B
Kiba: B
Shino: A
Hinata: B
Sakura: B
Ino: A
Taijutsu
Naruto: B
Sasuke: A
Shikamaru: C
Chouji: B
Kiba: A
Shino: B
Hinata: A
Sakura: C
Ino: B
Genjutsu
Naruto: F
Sasuke: A
Shikamaru: C
Chouji: C
Kiba: C
Shino: B
Hinata: B
Sakura: B
Ino: B
Cooperation
Naruto: F
Sasuke: F
Shikamaru: B
Chouji: B
Kiba: C
Shino: B
Hinata: A
Sakura: B
Ino: B
Positivity
Naruto: A
Sasuke: C
Shikamaru: C
Chouji: B
Kiba: A
Shino: C
Hinata: F
Sakura: B
Ino: A
Classroom Attitude
Naruto: F
Sasuke: B
Shikamaru: F
Chouji: C
Kiba: C
Shino: B
Hinata: A
Sakura: A
Ino: B
Rikudo no Sasuke
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I am just gonna copy-paste my post from another thread here:
I am going to add a few as well:
Sasuke was the person to percieve the intentions of the Chunin exams perfectly:
Orochimaru's path was flawlessly seen by Sasuke along with an additional route where he trapped him; something Orochimaru himself didn't see, thus, the smartest Sanin was fooled by a 12 year old boy:
He was so impressed that he praised him in front of Anko and basically called her and all the ninjas his age worthless:
He learnt and perfected Kunai usage on his own. He is shown using the Kunai with the sole of his Sandal and defeating the enemy by creating a distraction:
Sasuke mastered Lee's weightless speed (he hadn't even seen that) and Chidori in a mere month when it took Gai and Lee years to master that. It led Lee to comment that Sasuke is a "Genius":
Shikamaru: He considered him superior in every aspect because of Sasuke's performance in the academy:
Haku: Sasuke figured out his technique completely and forced out his Sharingan, which led Haku to not only comment that Sasuke is a prodigy, but he used Naruto as bait to remove him as quickly out of the equation as possible:
Exams' Performance: Sasuke was the first student (Shikamaru and Neji were also in the hall) to figure out that "cheating" was the purpose of the test along with an insightful commentenary on their initial training as Shinobis:
Sharingan Usage: When he unleashed the full power of the Sharingan, it shocked Gai (he compared him to Kakashi; a mere boy) and Kakashi himself. Mind you, the training required for mastering such Taijutsu movement requires years of experience, which Sasuke achieved in a few weeks:
Deidara: He was five steps ahead of Deidara the whole time:
Lured the guy, cut off his wings and landed the Shurikens in his arms with nothing but skill and cunning - heck, he was doing all that while operating Fuma Shuriken the whole time:
Mind you, Deidara is far from an idiot. He was also accompanied by Tobi in laying the bombs in the ground. He figured out Gaara's sand gourd techniques (something he had no intel on) in a heartbeat and absolutely humiliated him on his own home turf without the use of C1, C2 and C4 bombs. He only used homing birds on him and used a C3 bird on the village to make him deplete chakra. Gaara got punked:
Furthermore, he single-handedly defeated Isobou (three tails):
Chee and Raikage: Chee was taken out by a simple 3Tomoe Genjutsu and Sasuke survived all of Raikage's assaults, which no one had done before. Basically, he used distraction to take out Chee and carry out a frontal assault on Raikage. Chee called him a "rare Genius, as despite being a Genjutsu expert and aided by Darui, he was unable to move:
Danzo: He figured out Izanagi right at the start of the battle; just from a single gesture of Danzo checking his eye, which is why he went at him hard and fast. This is something Obito realized quite later on. And the way he confirmed it from Danzo was so impish and clever:
Sasuke had figured out right from the start that good, hard attacks would end the fight as it was a matter of lasting long in battle:
He fooled Danzo at the end through a simple Genjutsu; something which he tested before by using the image of Itachi:
Even Itachi was surprised that Sasuke survived the encounter, when he hardly knew that Sasuke defeated Izanagi about a dozen times:
Another interesting factor is how quick Sasuke was to counter Baku's suction, while Danzo was attacking him. He nullifed the summon and made Danzo waste another one of his eyes in an instant:
FuinJutsus Counter and a new Usage: Sasuke had only seen the Fuinjutsu only once in his childhood, when Kakashi used it on him to contain the cursed seal. Going by Orochimaru's statement, Kakashi had been trying for a while to master it. Sasuke mastered the seal through memory alone, and not only that, used a Jutsu to reverse it and draw Orochimaru out as well. That's one hell of an intelligence feat, given that Sasuke has little to no knowledge on Fuinjutsu:
Limbo Analysis: He saw and interacted with Limbo once and broke down its workings completely and came up with an entire strategy on the spot that surprised Madara:
Kabuto: Itachi would never have been able to prepare Izanami and defeat Kabuto without Sasuke's clever thinking. It was a joint effort:
ChakraControl:
CC is a testament of a Ninja's skill and intelligence along with the abilities he creates, how he uses them and how effective their usage is. Sasuke's CC is exceptional in the manga. In fact, it is unparalleled as Kurama stated by comparing it to the Sage - Copt-pasted stuff from my thread:
Heck, how many varients has he made when no one taught him those? 9 in total if Chidori is counted? Furthermore, Sasuke is the only other person (3rd Raikage is the other one) to make his Chidori sharper by bringing the focus down to just two fingers. One is hell-stab. Heck, he sharpened the focus by using using futher shape transformation as well as he's using a spear:
Kirin: Sasuke is the only person to control a natural phenomenon and shape it like people shape Chakra. The only person in the entire manga. That is a feat that no one has bar Kaguya who actually mixes her chakra with the surrounding to affect it. Sasuke simply turns his body into a rod and then shapes the lightnining that falls down onto him like a Dragon. This feat is unmatched in the manga. Period. He controls and shapes all the Lightning in a 60K feet cloud with one hand. One hand, ******es. One hand:
Forming a technique via CC requires a change in chakra form and nature. For instance, Chidori is created by changing the chakra nature to Raiton, then its form is changed to discharge it, along with setting its "range of action" and "power level." Mind you, Sasuke mastered Chidori in a single month along with Lee's "one gate / weightless speed (something he hadn't even seen)," when it requires a "massive amount of time" and "incredible talent" to learn such a tech alone:
Sasuke's masterful use of Kenjutsu (you cannot even count the number of Jounin and Chunin class ninjas he has defeated; it's literally over a thousand men) and he defeated them without losing a drop of blood and taking them out through non-lethal means, which makes this Kenjutsu-feat unsurpassed in the whole manga. This, along with Sasuke's accelerated, abnormal progress in mere 2.5 years, made Orochimaru to comment that "Sasuke's genius surpassed his own when he was his age":
Senjutsu:
Cursed Seal's (CS) soruce of power is Senjutsu, and Sasuke mastered it when he took it out against Naruto. What was that ... only the fourth time?
Sasuke is also extremely perceptive and cunning. For instance, he saw right through Sakura's pathetic little ruse:
He gave Danzo a false sense of security and got him through Karin; he didn't even get a chance to use Izanagi. He basically punked a man repeatedly who had leading Root for decades:
At the end, he chose to increase the radius and destructive nature of the blast by using Enton and Chidori side by side, in a single hand. Who has held two techs side by side, in a single hand, without combining them? No one. Heck, he coated Enton with it without combining it:
I can even list that one where Sasuke was the quickest to figure out Obito's ability that his attack "phases" through. But, that would be putting more shit over the already shitted-on so-called Genuises of the manga like Kakashi, Minato and Shikamaru, heh. And I have missed quite a few.
Sakura maybe intelligent, but she's shit compared to Sasuke. :kd:
I am going to add a few as well:
Sasuke was the person to percieve the intentions of the Chunin exams perfectly:
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Orochimaru's path was flawlessly seen by Sasuke along with an additional route where he trapped him; something Orochimaru himself didn't see, thus, the smartest Sanin was fooled by a 12 year old boy:
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He was so impressed that he praised him in front of Anko and basically called her and all the ninjas his age worthless:
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He learnt and perfected Kunai usage on his own. He is shown using the Kunai with the sole of his Sandal and defeating the enemy by creating a distraction:
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Sasuke mastered Lee's weightless speed (he hadn't even seen that) and Chidori in a mere month when it took Gai and Lee years to master that. It led Lee to comment that Sasuke is a "Genius":
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Shikamaru: He considered him superior in every aspect because of Sasuke's performance in the academy:
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Haku: Sasuke figured out his technique completely and forced out his Sharingan, which led Haku to not only comment that Sasuke is a prodigy, but he used Naruto as bait to remove him as quickly out of the equation as possible:
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Exams' Performance: Sasuke was the first student (Shikamaru and Neji were also in the hall) to figure out that "cheating" was the purpose of the test along with an insightful commentenary on their initial training as Shinobis:
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Sharingan Usage: When he unleashed the full power of the Sharingan, it shocked Gai (he compared him to Kakashi; a mere boy) and Kakashi himself. Mind you, the training required for mastering such Taijutsu movement requires years of experience, which Sasuke achieved in a few weeks:
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Deidara: He was five steps ahead of Deidara the whole time:
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Lured the guy, cut off his wings and landed the Shurikens in his arms with nothing but skill and cunning - heck, he was doing all that while operating Fuma Shuriken the whole time:
He starts using his Shurikenjutsu here by fooling Deidara into taking a hit and drawing him near:
He avoids the mines and the coming C2 bomb while trying to catch Deidara:
Then he jumps up, flies with his one wing and uses Chidori spear to cut off the wing ... all the time whilst still operating his Fuma Shuriken and then pins Deidara down:
Deidara confirms that those were the same fuma-shurikens.
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He avoids the mines and the coming C2 bomb while trying to catch Deidara:
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Then he jumps up, flies with his one wing and uses Chidori spear to cut off the wing ... all the time whilst still operating his Fuma Shuriken and then pins Deidara down:
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Deidara confirms that those were the same fuma-shurikens.
Mind you, Deidara is far from an idiot. He was also accompanied by Tobi in laying the bombs in the ground. He figured out Gaara's sand gourd techniques (something he had no intel on) in a heartbeat and absolutely humiliated him on his own home turf without the use of C1, C2 and C4 bombs. He only used homing birds on him and used a C3 bird on the village to make him deplete chakra. Gaara got punked:
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Furthermore, he single-handedly defeated Isobou (three tails):
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Chee and Raikage: Chee was taken out by a simple 3Tomoe Genjutsu and Sasuke survived all of Raikage's assaults, which no one had done before. Basically, he used distraction to take out Chee and carry out a frontal assault on Raikage. Chee called him a "rare Genius, as despite being a Genjutsu expert and aided by Darui, he was unable to move:
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Danzo: He figured out Izanagi right at the start of the battle; just from a single gesture of Danzo checking his eye, which is why he went at him hard and fast. This is something Obito realized quite later on. And the way he confirmed it from Danzo was so impish and clever:
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Sasuke had figured out right from the start that good, hard attacks would end the fight as it was a matter of lasting long in battle:
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He fooled Danzo at the end through a simple Genjutsu; something which he tested before by using the image of Itachi:
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Even Itachi was surprised that Sasuke survived the encounter, when he hardly knew that Sasuke defeated Izanagi about a dozen times:
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Another interesting factor is how quick Sasuke was to counter Baku's suction, while Danzo was attacking him. He nullifed the summon and made Danzo waste another one of his eyes in an instant:
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FuinJutsus Counter and a new Usage: Sasuke had only seen the Fuinjutsu only once in his childhood, when Kakashi used it on him to contain the cursed seal. Going by Orochimaru's statement, Kakashi had been trying for a while to master it. Sasuke mastered the seal through memory alone, and not only that, used a Jutsu to reverse it and draw Orochimaru out as well. That's one hell of an intelligence feat, given that Sasuke has little to no knowledge on Fuinjutsu:
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Limbo Analysis: He saw and interacted with Limbo once and broke down its workings completely and came up with an entire strategy on the spot that surprised Madara:
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Kabuto: Itachi would never have been able to prepare Izanami and defeat Kabuto without Sasuke's clever thinking. It was a joint effort:
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CC is a testament of a Ninja's skill and intelligence along with the abilities he creates, how he uses them and how effective their usage is. Sasuke's CC is exceptional in the manga. In fact, it is unparalleled as Kurama stated by comparing it to the Sage - Copt-pasted stuff from my thread:
Chakra Control:
In layman manga terms, Chakra Control (CC) is just that, control over chakra; how it's regulated, how it's kneaded and how it is turned into a technique. Lack of control leads to unrefined techniques, over-usage of chakra and lack of mastery over the said tech.
These images are basically the gist of it:
Sasuke's incomparable Chakra Control:
As you can see, it's simple. Now we come to the main topic at hand that concerns Sasuke's much talked about a feat that puts him on the same pedestal as Sage of the Six paths. Time for a little history lesson:
This is what the Sage accomplished:
Basically, what the Sage did was use a highly advanced version of Izanagi (Uchihas use the watered down version to simply "erase the results") or The Creation of all Things (COAT) through Yin/Yang elemental power and ripped the chakra into nine pieces, gave it shape and breathed life into it and sealed the Mezo. Mind you, it’s his most renowned and advanced feat!
Now, Sasuke faced a huge bump in the road to take a hard ride out of Konoha's moist juncture that awaited him with a wide and wanton, open stance; he didn't have a Mezo! How did he get around it? He went beyond Perfect Susanoo (the final, stabilized version of Complete Susanoo) by molding it into a container.
Before I proceed, it's important to note that Susanoo itself requires an immense amount of CC. This can be easily ascertained by Itachi's shock at Sasuke's use of Susanoo and Madara outright stating that PS is only achieved through the stabilization of Complete Susanoo's Chakra; that itself is a mountainous structure to maintain, hold and control, let alone mold and perfect it further into what Sasuke did:
For the Bijuus, he pulled out the chakra and amalgamated it perfectly into PS molded into a Mezo structure to feed chakra to his Raiton techs (I will get to this point later). Now, the Sage performed COAT. Sasuke performed the opposite of COAT, but with additional control. This is what Kurama stated in that infamous scene (VIZ Translation, courtesy of my boi, Immortal):
It isn't far-fetched to assume that "vessel for Susanoo" means exactly that; Sasuke became a kind of pseudo-Jubi-Jin, only without the beasts merged in the manner within the Mezo. As a Jubi Jin is a vessel for the Mezo/Jubi. He didn't pull out their complete chakra either. Who knows what he could have accomplished had he done it. But, we will never know … Curses!
Notice, in the second scan, how Sasuke is "simultaneously" not only performing the outer-path pull, but is also kneading, controlling and performing the exact opposite of COAT, but, he is molding his PS to turn into a Mezo as well. That is FOUR tasks in one go. FOUR complex tasks, that not only involve Bijuu chakra but also Rinnegan control and his own chakra control; all to perform a task that is the opposite of COAT!
But, is that all? No. That brings us to the main argument: Sasuke's Chakra Control is something else. Why? Look closely at these scans; coloured and regular:
What do you see? That's right, that is ALL the merged Bijuu chakra turned into Raiton! All of it. You can easily see the entire Bijuu Chakra, that isn't merged with Mezo-PS in any manner, flowing out of the exposed structures as raw Raiton in all the scans. It's easy to spot as it's forked like Lightning:
And that's not all; he created a Raiton Sword as well! The scene where he smashed the dull Bunshin down was recreated perfectly in the anime!
But, does this argument end here? No. Sasuke performed teleportation (as shown in the scan above where he smashed the Bunshin down), Taijutsu and ... Raiton Senbon AND created a whole bow and an arrow (Indra's Arrow) from the same structure: that is several uses of exponentially advanced Physical AND Spatial manipulation/Re-composition seen in the entire manga bar none!
This is what Kakashi states about the arduous task, as once you hand over a kneaded chakra, what's left in the task at hand? Nothing at all other than the tiny end of the monkey's tail; you let the monkey get away!
As Sasuke is doing all that (and all by himself, unlike a certain someone who receives kneaded chakra after every tiny stumble and during every small task) WHILST maintaining PS-Mezo; a task that was performed in the direct opposition of COAT!
Thus, Sasuke physically composed the ENTIRE Bijuu chakra into Raiton. Then, he Spatially composed it to determine its shape, scope and strength. He did three Spatial compositions for IA: converted the sword into the end of the bow, create the string of Raiton (and how PRECISE that had to be to launch it at just the right speed; you have to read on bows to even realize the magnitude of this feat) and the Arrow itself. And I am not even counting those Senbons. That’s FOUR complex tasks (Seven if I count shifting chakra management) on CC alone and without the handout of "Universal Grasp of all things; an auto-pilot-Chakra-Control-Mode." Believe it, folks!
That is a hell lot of chakra to manage, control perfectly and launch a devastating attack that overpowered, not one, but two Futon-based attacks. Something Ration is meant to accomplish if it's focused:
So, yes, Sasuke's CC really is on a level that remains, and will always remain, untouched.
In layman manga terms, Chakra Control (CC) is just that, control over chakra; how it's regulated, how it's kneaded and how it is turned into a technique. Lack of control leads to unrefined techniques, over-usage of chakra and lack of mastery over the said tech.
These images are basically the gist of it:
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Sasuke's incomparable Chakra Control:
As you can see, it's simple. Now we come to the main topic at hand that concerns Sasuke's much talked about a feat that puts him on the same pedestal as Sage of the Six paths. Time for a little history lesson:
This is what the Sage accomplished:
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Basically, what the Sage did was use a highly advanced version of Izanagi (Uchihas use the watered down version to simply "erase the results") or The Creation of all Things (COAT) through Yin/Yang elemental power and ripped the chakra into nine pieces, gave it shape and breathed life into it and sealed the Mezo. Mind you, it’s his most renowned and advanced feat!
Now, Sasuke faced a huge bump in the road to take a hard ride out of Konoha's moist juncture that awaited him with a wide and wanton, open stance; he didn't have a Mezo! How did he get around it? He went beyond Perfect Susanoo (the final, stabilized version of Complete Susanoo) by molding it into a container.
Before I proceed, it's important to note that Susanoo itself requires an immense amount of CC. This can be easily ascertained by Itachi's shock at Sasuke's use of Susanoo and Madara outright stating that PS is only achieved through the stabilization of Complete Susanoo's Chakra; that itself is a mountainous structure to maintain, hold and control, let alone mold and perfect it further into what Sasuke did:
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For the Bijuus, he pulled out the chakra and amalgamated it perfectly into PS molded into a Mezo structure to feed chakra to his Raiton techs (I will get to this point later). Now, the Sage performed COAT. Sasuke performed the opposite of COAT, but with additional control. This is what Kurama stated in that infamous scene (VIZ Translation, courtesy of my boi, Immortal):
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It isn't far-fetched to assume that "vessel for Susanoo" means exactly that; Sasuke became a kind of pseudo-Jubi-Jin, only without the beasts merged in the manner within the Mezo. As a Jubi Jin is a vessel for the Mezo/Jubi. He didn't pull out their complete chakra either. Who knows what he could have accomplished had he done it. But, we will never know … Curses!
Notice, in the second scan, how Sasuke is "simultaneously" not only performing the outer-path pull, but is also kneading, controlling and performing the exact opposite of COAT, but, he is molding his PS to turn into a Mezo as well. That is FOUR tasks in one go. FOUR complex tasks, that not only involve Bijuu chakra but also Rinnegan control and his own chakra control; all to perform a task that is the opposite of COAT!
But, is that all? No. That brings us to the main argument: Sasuke's Chakra Control is something else. Why? Look closely at these scans; coloured and regular:
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What do you see? That's right, that is ALL the merged Bijuu chakra turned into Raiton! All of it. You can easily see the entire Bijuu Chakra, that isn't merged with Mezo-PS in any manner, flowing out of the exposed structures as raw Raiton in all the scans. It's easy to spot as it's forked like Lightning:
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And that's not all; he created a Raiton Sword as well! The scene where he smashed the dull Bunshin down was recreated perfectly in the anime!
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But, does this argument end here? No. Sasuke performed teleportation (as shown in the scan above where he smashed the Bunshin down), Taijutsu and ... Raiton Senbon AND created a whole bow and an arrow (Indra's Arrow) from the same structure: that is several uses of exponentially advanced Physical AND Spatial manipulation/Re-composition seen in the entire manga bar none!
This is what Kakashi states about the arduous task, as once you hand over a kneaded chakra, what's left in the task at hand? Nothing at all other than the tiny end of the monkey's tail; you let the monkey get away!
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As Sasuke is doing all that (and all by himself, unlike a certain someone who receives kneaded chakra after every tiny stumble and during every small task) WHILST maintaining PS-Mezo; a task that was performed in the direct opposition of COAT!
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Thus, Sasuke physically composed the ENTIRE Bijuu chakra into Raiton. Then, he Spatially composed it to determine its shape, scope and strength. He did three Spatial compositions for IA: converted the sword into the end of the bow, create the string of Raiton (and how PRECISE that had to be to launch it at just the right speed; you have to read on bows to even realize the magnitude of this feat) and the Arrow itself. And I am not even counting those Senbons. That’s FOUR complex tasks (Seven if I count shifting chakra management) on CC alone and without the handout of "Universal Grasp of all things; an auto-pilot-Chakra-Control-Mode." Believe it, folks!
That is a hell lot of chakra to manage, control perfectly and launch a devastating attack that overpowered, not one, but two Futon-based attacks. Something Ration is meant to accomplish if it's focused:
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So, yes, Sasuke's CC really is on a level that remains, and will always remain, untouched.
Heck, how many varients has he made when no one taught him those? 9 in total if Chidori is counted? Furthermore, Sasuke is the only other person (3rd Raikage is the other one) to make his Chidori sharper by bringing the focus down to just two fingers. One is hell-stab. Heck, he sharpened the focus by using using futher shape transformation as well as he's using a spear:
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Kirin: Sasuke is the only person to control a natural phenomenon and shape it like people shape Chakra. The only person in the entire manga. That is a feat that no one has bar Kaguya who actually mixes her chakra with the surrounding to affect it. Sasuke simply turns his body into a rod and then shapes the lightnining that falls down onto him like a Dragon. This feat is unmatched in the manga. Period. He controls and shapes all the Lightning in a 60K feet cloud with one hand. One hand, ******es. One hand:
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Forming a technique via CC requires a change in chakra form and nature. For instance, Chidori is created by changing the chakra nature to Raiton, then its form is changed to discharge it, along with setting its "range of action" and "power level." Mind you, Sasuke mastered Chidori in a single month along with Lee's "one gate / weightless speed (something he hadn't even seen)," when it requires a "massive amount of time" and "incredible talent" to learn such a tech alone:
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Sasuke's masterful use of Kenjutsu (you cannot even count the number of Jounin and Chunin class ninjas he has defeated; it's literally over a thousand men) and he defeated them without losing a drop of blood and taking them out through non-lethal means, which makes this Kenjutsu-feat unsurpassed in the whole manga. This, along with Sasuke's accelerated, abnormal progress in mere 2.5 years, made Orochimaru to comment that "Sasuke's genius surpassed his own when he was his age":
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Senjutsu:
Cursed Seal's (CS) soruce of power is Senjutsu, and Sasuke mastered it when he took it out against Naruto. What was that ... only the fourth time?
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Sasuke is also extremely perceptive and cunning. For instance, he saw right through Sakura's pathetic little ruse:
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He gave Danzo a false sense of security and got him through Karin; he didn't even get a chance to use Izanagi. He basically punked a man repeatedly who had leading Root for decades:
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At the end, he chose to increase the radius and destructive nature of the blast by using Enton and Chidori side by side, in a single hand. Who has held two techs side by side, in a single hand, without combining them? No one. Heck, he coated Enton with it without combining it:
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I can even list that one where Sasuke was the quickest to figure out Obito's ability that his attack "phases" through. But, that would be putting more shit over the already shitted-on so-called Genuises of the manga like Kakashi, Minato and Shikamaru, heh. And I have missed quite a few.
Sakura maybe intelligent, but she's shit compared to Sasuke. :kd:
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Their both intelligent and are both geniuses but if I had to pick one, it would be the one with the Rinnegan. But If I needed an autopsy, an understanding of the periodic table, human anatomy/physiology, chemical combustibles, cryptology, biology, toxiplogy, genealogy or how to make a sandwhich I'd call Sakura.
Nice bait btw, their probably the most intellectual paring.
Nice bait btw, their probably the most intellectual paring.
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Never claimed she's stupid. She's intelligent, yes. A genius? No way. Not even close. A Genius is someone who revolutionises something. Introduces something new to the table. Sakura has never done that. Ever.
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Oops that wasn't for you.
No a genius is a person who is exceptionally intelligent or creative, either generally or in some particular respect. Sakura's genius rest within chakra control & medical ninjutsu.
You are just playing with words. She isn't a genius. And I wouldn't call her exceptionally intelligent either. Why? For the reasons I highlighted above as she introduced nothing new to the medical field. Geniuses are meant to be creative. Sakura has shown no creativity in her Ninjutsu application. It's the same stuff Tsunade knows.
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Fourth Databook proof!!!
Translation: Hiruzen earned the title of professor for being a researcher. He was trained by both Hashirama and Tobirama, as the man that would succeed them. At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama. Ability in all Five Nature Alterations, Ability in all Hiden (clan techniques), Genjutsu, Ability in all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha which explains his reputation as the professor. His title of Professor is no joke, hence the essence of Hiruzen is his talent with ninjutsu. Everyone in the village is his family member
5 Elements - Not even his full power???
Since Hiruzen was revived at old age, his chakra and power should be as low as before but wait... Tobirama states that the Hokage have been revived "close to original power" this means Hiruzen was revived weaker then he was alive at old age yet he was able to produce the 5 Elements at such mastery that it was even capable of stalemating the Buddha Statue while the 5 Kage couldn't. Just imagine his Prime.
Hiruzen knows and could perform all non KKG Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals = The use of the Ino–Shika–Chō at will with Kage Bunshin
OP Summoning Monkey King Enma
The Third hokage's comrade in arms, the monkey king enma's transformation jutsu Characterized by the hardness of diamond and its at-will extensibility, Kongou Nyoi-Bou is Sandaime's"weapon of choice", so to speak and with it in hand he's made it through a world of war for an extended period of time.
Enma is capable of using Transformation: Adamantine Staff, which allows him to turn into a extending and expanding staff that is as hard as adamantine, capable of cutting through the Shinju branches easily. By extending in staff form, Enma can even push Kurama out of Konoha rather easily. He is also able to produce various body parts, such as eyes or arms, from the staff. Additionally, Enma can still move on his own in the staff form, allowing him to return to Hiruzen. Enma can even clone himself in his staff form, turning him into any number of smaller staffs that he uses for Adamantine Prison Wall, a move that can even protect against Hashirama Senju's Wood Release techniques.
Durability Feats - Super Kage Bunshin???
Hiruzen has shown to have excellent durability feats at age 69 with his Kage Bunshin as one of his clones was stabbed by Hashirama with 4 Kunai in the chest yet did not disperse until Hiruzen was done with it. He was also able to hold Orochimaru's soul for an hour long despite being stabbed through the chest by the Sword of Kusangi.
Dangerous CQC
Intelligence "The Professor"
Further Hype and Testimonials
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Translation: Hiruzen earned the title of professor for being a researcher. He was trained by both Hashirama and Tobirama, as the man that would succeed them. At a young age he showed greater talent than Tobirama. Ability in all Five Nature Alterations, Ability in all Hiden (clan techniques), Genjutsu, Ability in all Ninjutsu existing in Konoha which explains his reputation as the professor. His title of Professor is no joke, hence the essence of Hiruzen is his talent with ninjutsu. Everyone in the village is his family member
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Since Hiruzen was revived at old age, his chakra and power should be as low as before but wait... Tobirama states that the Hokage have been revived "close to original power" this means Hiruzen was revived weaker then he was alive at old age yet he was able to produce the 5 Elements at such mastery that it was even capable of stalemating the Buddha Statue while the 5 Kage couldn't. Just imagine his Prime.
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Hiruzen knows and could perform all non KKG Hidden Leaf Jutsu which equals = The use of the Ino–Shika–Chō at will with Kage Bunshin
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Broken Ninjutsu versatility
Hiruzen utilizing the Inuzuka Clan's ability of an enhanced sense of smell to catch the 2 Hokage in complete darkness.
Hidden Leaf Tech
Bringer of Darkness, Great Clone Explosion
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough
Sarutobi Clan
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Izunaka Clan
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang
Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap
Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique
Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy
Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades
Uzumaki Clan
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Five Elements Unseal
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Hiruzen utilizing the Inuzuka Clan's ability of an enhanced sense of smell to catch the 2 Hokage in complete darkness.
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Hidden Leaf Tech
Bringer of Darkness, Great Clone Explosion
Water Clone Technique
Water Release: Water Colliding Wave
Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Trumpet
Demonic Illusion: Hell Viewing Technique
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Earth Release: Hiding Like a Mole Technique
Earth Release: Multiple Earth-Style Wall (Anime only)
Eight Gates
Evil Sealing Method
Eye Mind Reading
Front Lotus
Lion Combo
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
One Thousand Years of Death
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Water Needle
Shadow of the Dancing Leaf
Summoning: Earth Release: Tracking Fang Technique
Wind Release: Great Breakthrough
Sarutobi Clan
Fire Release: Ash Pile Burning
Fire Release: Great Flame Technique
Earth Release Shadow Clone
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet
Earth Release: Earth Flow River
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Izunaka Clan
Beast Human Clone
Dynamic Marking
Fang Passing Fang
Fang Rotating Fang (Manga only) - Capable of crushing stone
Fang Wolf Fang - The power is great enough to dent a Rashōmon gate
Four Legs Technique
Human Beast Combination Transformation: Double-Headed Wolf
Passing Fang
Akimichi clan
Butterfly Bullet Bombing
Calorie Control
Double Human Bullet Tank
Human Bullet Tank
Multi-Size Technique
Partial Multi-Size Technique
Spiked Human Bullet Tank
Super Multi-Size Technique
Super Open Hand Slap
Nara clan
Black Spider Lily
Shadow Gathering Technique
Shadow Imitation Shuriken Technique
Shadow Imitation Technique
Shadow Sewing Technique
Shadow–Neck Binding Technique
Yamanaka Clan
Mind Body Disturbance Technique
Mind Body Switch Technique
Mind Clone Switch Technique
Mind Disturbance Dance Performance Technique (Anime only)
Mind Puppet Switch Cursed Seal Technique
Yamanaka Clan Telepathy
Uchiha Clan
Fire Release: Dragon Flame Release Song Technique
Fire Release: Great Dragon Fire Technique
Fire Release: Great Fireball Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Fire Technique
Fire Release: Phoenix Sage Flower Nail Crimson
Manipulating Windmill Triple Blades
Uzumaki Clan
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Five Elements Unseal
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The Third hokage's comrade in arms, the monkey king enma's transformation jutsu Characterized by the hardness of diamond and its at-will extensibility, Kongou Nyoi-Bou is Sandaime's"weapon of choice", so to speak and with it in hand he's made it through a world of war for an extended period of time.
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Enma is capable of using Transformation: Adamantine Staff, which allows him to turn into a extending and expanding staff that is as hard as adamantine, capable of cutting through the Shinju branches easily. By extending in staff form, Enma can even push Kurama out of Konoha rather easily. He is also able to produce various body parts, such as eyes or arms, from the staff. Additionally, Enma can still move on his own in the staff form, allowing him to return to Hiruzen. Enma can even clone himself in his staff form, turning him into any number of smaller staffs that he uses for Adamantine Prison Wall, a move that can even protect against Hashirama Senju's Wood Release techniques.
Durability Feats - Super Kage Bunshin???
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Hiruzen has shown to have excellent durability feats at age 69 with his Kage Bunshin as one of his clones was stabbed by Hashirama with 4 Kunai in the chest yet did not disperse until Hiruzen was done with it. He was also able to hold Orochimaru's soul for an hour long despite being stabbed through the chest by the Sword of Kusangi.
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Dangerous CQC
]Even past his Prime, Hiruzen had showed excellent Close Quarter Combat skills. Moments after sealing parts of his soul away to seal the Edo Hokage and exhausting his remaining Chakra on Kage Bunshin, he was still able to easily disarm Orochimaru from his Sword of Kusangi with great ease and catch him to prepare his sealing Jutsu. He was also able to easily break through the Shinju branches and save Naruto despite Tobirama and Minato unable to get through.
Strong fighters such as Aye couldn't do much against Wood Style from Madara. Only Onoki managed to destroy lots of Wood with his Jinton which even damaged edo-Madara. Tsunade destroying a Wood Clone don't count because it was merely a clone. Same with edo-Madara cutting Hashirama's Wood clone in half don't count. Tobirama failed to destroy all of the Juubi Wood Style with his Water Style Ninjutsu. Minato said he didn't have enough chakra to teleport Naruto away. Which means that Minato couldn't destroy the Wood either. He could only teleport Naruto away. That was his only option. The first time Madara used Wood Style, characters such as Gaara or Dodai were saying that it's GG right now because they can't do anything to that Wood. Only Naruto saved their asses. So you see, Kage level fighters like Tobirama, Minato, Gaara, Aye were powerless against Wood Style. But Hiruzen and a few others managed to cut through the Wood like paper. The only other person who had cut through the Wood so easily was EMS Sasuke with his Susanoo sword.
Strong fighters such as Aye couldn't do much against Wood Style from Madara. Only Onoki managed to destroy lots of Wood with his Jinton which even damaged edo-Madara. Tsunade destroying a Wood Clone don't count because it was merely a clone. Same with edo-Madara cutting Hashirama's Wood clone in half don't count. Tobirama failed to destroy all of the Juubi Wood Style with his Water Style Ninjutsu. Minato said he didn't have enough chakra to teleport Naruto away. Which means that Minato couldn't destroy the Wood either. He could only teleport Naruto away. That was his only option. The first time Madara used Wood Style, characters such as Gaara or Dodai were saying that it's GG right now because they can't do anything to that Wood. Only Naruto saved their asses. So you see, Kage level fighters like Tobirama, Minato, Gaara, Aye were powerless against Wood Style. But Hiruzen and a few others managed to cut through the Wood like paper. The only other person who had cut through the Wood so easily was EMS Sasuke with his Susanoo sword.
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Intelligence "The Professor"
Having been around the previous 3 Shinobi World War, Hiruzen's knowledge and experience in all forms of Shinobi combat are unparalleled. Although brief, we only get to see a glimpse of "The Professor"
One great example would include when Hiruzen combined the Reaper Death Seal with Kage Bunshin to try and seal multiple souls at once. This was a genius move because it would help delay the sealing of his own soul enough to go after Orochimaru's soul next.
The last time we see a glimpse of Hiruzen's intelligence was when he personally engages Obito so that nobody needs to put their lives at risk, taking advantage of the fact that he's already dead to analyse Obito's abilities. By observing Obito's Truth-Seeking Balls with his specialty, the Shuriken Kage Bunshin, he theorizes that they are similar to the Third Tsuchikage's kekkei tōta in that they are a combination of multiple nature transformations. He also postulates that the Truth-Seeking Balls have limits to the duration of their malleability, but his upper body is destroyed immediately after that. He was able to deduce the Truth-Seeking Balls, (a technique that is beyond Shinobi knowledge) in mere seconds after seeing it
One great example would include when Hiruzen combined the Reaper Death Seal with Kage Bunshin to try and seal multiple souls at once. This was a genius move because it would help delay the sealing of his own soul enough to go after Orochimaru's soul next.
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The last time we see a glimpse of Hiruzen's intelligence was when he personally engages Obito so that nobody needs to put their lives at risk, taking advantage of the fact that he's already dead to analyse Obito's abilities. By observing Obito's Truth-Seeking Balls with his specialty, the Shuriken Kage Bunshin, he theorizes that they are similar to the Third Tsuchikage's kekkei tōta in that they are a combination of multiple nature transformations. He also postulates that the Truth-Seeking Balls have limits to the duration of their malleability, but his upper body is destroyed immediately after that. He was able to deduce the Truth-Seeking Balls, (a technique that is beyond Shinobi knowledge) in mere seconds after seeing it
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Orochimaru admitting that he would be killed by a 59 year old Hiruzen.
Danzo in his dying moments admitting inferiority despite possessing Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami and Hashirama's DNA.
Kabuto, a spy who has spied on and knows all about the Shinobi countries states that an old Hiruzen was stronger then all the 5 Kage at the time. Just imagine his Prime.
Even with the entire SA and 5 Kage, Shikamaru states that only Hiruzen could contend with Guruguru at the time.
Considers himself to be the strongest in his group which also included Tobirama. Confident enough to take on the entire Kinkaku and survive.
Extra Databook Hype
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Danzo in his dying moments admitting inferiority despite possessing Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami and Hashirama's DNA.
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Kabuto, a spy who has spied on and knows all about the Shinobi countries states that an old Hiruzen was stronger then all the 5 Kage at the time. Just imagine his Prime.
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Even with the entire SA and 5 Kage, Shikamaru states that only Hiruzen could contend with Guruguru at the time.
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Considers himself to be the strongest in his group which also included Tobirama. Confident enough to take on the entire Kinkaku and survive.
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"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called the strongest of all the Hokage".
the Sandaime was the strongest.
Databook 1, Page 117
The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.
Databook 1, Page 119
"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.
DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
the Sandaime was the strongest.
Databook 1, Page 117
The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.
Databook 1, Page 119
"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.
DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
"Hiruzen in his Prime was able to counter every Leaf Jutsu in Existance including all MS and EMS skills." DB2 Pg 84
Konohamaru paragraph:
Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
He who even holds the affectionate name of "Professor," being well-versed in every jutsu that exists in the village of Konohagakure
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Suckura had good marks in the academy. She's the type who can only memorize or learn what is taught to her imo. She lacks the creativity and intelligence to take them any further and as for battlesmarts she has none, its always jump punch and repeat without any tactics.
Suckura had good marks in the academy. She's the type who can only memorize or learn what is taught to her imo. She lacks the creativity and intelligence to take them any further and as for battlesmarts she has none, its always jump punch and repeat without any tactics.