Who have MATURE the most,Sasuke or Naruto?

Who mature the fastest

  • Sasuke

    Votes: 15 33.3%
  • Naruto

    Votes: 27 60.0%
  • Both

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • None because i donot like them

    Votes: 2 4.4%

  • Total voters
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Xlad

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Since your poll has the "both" option, I'm going to pick it.
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And did he fail or succeed? He saved the village from Pein and saved them from Obito..
Because of some MAJOR PNJ. Naruto was at that time weaker than Pein. He just was lucky Pein underestimated him and lost Asura path because of that and that Pein didn't have Deva's powers. Those two Pein are the main strength.
And Obito is just TNJ with a bit of PNJ.
 

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You mad that Sasuke is Lord over all? Lol Repent and maybe Lord Sasuke will show mercy on you. :cool:
Lel, not even. #LG was something based on thwarting Sausage fanboys initially. It's just rather funny to see Lord Sasuke and that put together is all U_U

i alway ponder where your loyality lies?
You know my allegiance lies with you
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Lel, not even. #LG was something based on thwarting Sausage fanboys initially. It's just rather funny to see Lord Sasuke and that put together is all U_U



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Well lord Sasuke will have mercy on you for a week till you continue to show your loyality
 

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It's an interesting but hard question. Sasuke was always the more mature one in part 1 because he was very focused. But things took a turn for the worst once he joined oro and from then on its been an up and down rollercoaster of clinically insane and his past personality. I would say that he has levelled out now but his ambition to destroy all tailed beasts is juvenile (especially since they come back when killed). It seems he just needs something to point his anger towards, which shows he isn't mature enough to front up to everything he has done.

Naruto on the other hand has shown astronomical growth considering that when he first appeared he was painting his face on hokage mountain. From that child to where he is now is a huge jump in maturity, which mainly came about due to jiriaya and his eventual death. I do think that from that point naruto started to really grow up accepting that he may have to kill sasuke. He recent chats with obito also show that he has really taken his experiences on board and grown from them.

With that said it's probably not fair to compare them. Sasuke started mature then went crazy. Now that he is starting to act like his original character he seems more mature - despite the fact it's really a regression to his twelve year old self. Naruto on the other hand had huge potential for growth because he was so juvenile to begin with. Both have shown different types of maturity, but both still have lapses and juvenile traits. Overall I would say naruto but it's a difficult question really.
 

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It seems the problem here is what is considered mature. We have one side who thinks having emotions or a personality is immature, and whole sale slaughter is mature because "its getting things done"

So, here is how it is. Maturity isn't killing off your emotions and trying to be this unrealistic figure, being mature is a result of understanding who you are, and realizing you are a piece of the puzzle, not THE puzzle. Putting others first, and dying to yourself is maturity, physically and in the spirit.

Sasuke isn't immature for being tricked or fooled, that happens to everyone at some point. What makes him immature is the fact that until recent chapters (maybe) he has only done things for himself, if it happened to benefit someone else in the process, no biggie. A quick example: When he left Karin to die, because she was no longer any USE to him. He is showing a little, but its not much.

Naruto is a bonehead, but being such doesn't make him Immature, he isn't an adult yet but he is close, and is wise beyond his years. The concept used "TNJ" is a good way to summarize what took place, but using it as an excuse not to recognize what he has accomplished is immature in its self. Willing to find another way besides killing or thrashing is a significant sign of maturity. Ask any adult. There maybe be times, but its not THE way to handle anything.

Everyone has their weakness, admitting that yourself or someone you admire has a flaw, doesn't mean you/they are not relevant. It means you/they are human. Congrats.
 

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It seems the problem here is what is considered mature. We have one side who thinks having emotions or a personality is immature, and whole sale slaughter is mature because "its getting things done"

So, here is how it is. Maturity isn't killing off your emotions and trying to be this unrealistic figure, being mature is a result of understanding who you are, and realizing you are a piece of the puzzle, not THE puzzle. Putting others first, and dying to yourself is maturity, physically and in the spirit.

Sasuke isn't immature for being tricked or fooled, that happens to everyone at some point. What makes him immature is the fact that until recent chapters (maybe) he has only done things for himself, if it happened to benefit someone else in the process, no biggie. A quick example: When he left Karin to die, because she was no longer any USE to him. He is showing a little, but its not much.

Naruto is a bonehead, but being such doesn't make him Immature, he isn't an adult yet but he is close, and is wise beyond his years. The concept used "TNJ" is a good way to summarize what took place, but using it as an excuse not to recognize what he has accomplished is immature in its self. Willing to find another way besides killing or thrashing is a significant sign of maturity. Ask any adult. There maybe be times, but its not THE way to handle anything.

Everyone has their weakness, admitting that yourself or someone you admire has a flaw, doesn't mean you/they are not relevant. It means you/they are human. Congrats.
It's an interesting but hard question. Sasuke was always the more mature one in part 1 because he was very focused. But things took a turn for the worst once he joined oro and from then on its been an up and down rollercoaster of clinically insane and his past personality. I would say that he has levelled out now but his ambition to destroy all tailed beasts is juvenile (especially since they come back when killed). It seems he just needs something to point his anger towards, which shows he isn't mature enough to front up to everything he has done.

Naruto on the other hand has shown astronomical growth considering that when he first appeared he was painting his face on hokage mountain. From that child to where he is now is a huge jump in maturity, which mainly came about due to jiriaya and his eventual death. I do think that from that point naruto started to really grow up accepting that he may have to kill sasuke. He recent chats with obito also show that he has really taken his experiences on board and grown from them.

With that said it's probably not fair to compare them. Sasuke started mature then went crazy. Now that he is starting to act like his original character he seems more mature - despite the fact it's really a regression to his twelve year old self. Naruto on the other hand had huge potential for growth because he was so juvenile to begin with. Both have shown different types of maturity, but both still have lapses and juvenile traits. Overall I would say naruto but it's a difficult question really.
Quite a great read.
 

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Question who had matured the most? Not who is more mature.

Easily naruto seeing as sasuke was already more mature naruto has shown lots of growth he is still naive and a dunce but he has honestly matured
 

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No , Sasuke is a child because he is easily manipulated .

First Itachi , then Orochimaru , and finally Obito . He is simple minded .

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Normally I don't even consider these things, but this calls for a response -

- Itachi was killed because he slaughtered his owns Kith and kin. It wasn't manipulation at all.
- Orochimaru offered him power, which Sasuke took as he wanted to defeat his brother. A negotiation.
- It was the same with Obito. Sasuke worked to get 8 tails because he wanted one of the tailed beasts for himself.

ALL Proven through scans. All these were excellent decisions given the circumstances. It's highly pointless to suggest otherwise.

As for Naruto, then anyone who is deluded by the 'Will of Fire' propaganda is insanely deluded. I made a similar post in this regard a while back and I will quote myself:

Sasuke was never evil. Konoha is an arbitrary establishment. It has committed heinous crimes against many ninjas, Uchiha Clan included, who happen to the one of the founding fathers, and that is just like scraping the tip of a very large iceberg. These Villages are in the way of peace themselves. Committing terrorism against others and their own people, committing espionage activities, amassing techniques - all during the period when peace treaties were in affect. Simply to keep the funds from the main governments that rule the countries active.

If peace completely prevailed, military divisions and their funds would be cut back, and all these hidden villages would completely lose meaning. The Uchiha massacre was one such leaf in the long book of strife between villages and their internal power tussles. All this was proven during the Kage summit harsh exchanges. Danzo's free reign to carry out utterly despicable activities cements my point even further.

Then we have the Senju, who monopolized the entire political establishment in Konoha to their favour. Other villages simply mimicked what Tobirama and Hashirama had paved way for - an arms-race and a nexus of killers for formally hired-endless espionage against countries. Tobirama endlessly persecuted Uchiha and never let go of the hatred that plagued him. I see everyone blaming Madara, and yet, Senju clan NEVER earned their place in the peace process.

It were the Uchiha that forever strove to maintain it despite Tobirama's gross and underhanded tactics of keeping surveillance on a fellow founding clan, when he had no rights, political, ethical, moral or otherwise. It was completely against the truce they mutually signed. The Senju clan completely desecrated the original concept on which Konoha was built. Furthermore, Tobirama's dictatorial set-up was passed on to Danzo, Elders, and Hizuren, who were equally responsible.

Konoha, for these crimes alone should be wiped off the face of the earth. Danzo was given open liberty to kill targets from other hidden villages who simply had a harsh political stance towards Konoha. This was proven through Sai's arc. Not only that, he gave away the Anbu Squad book, consorted with an international terrorist, and was on the forefront with his policies concerning the Uchihas along with Elders - all of them were followers of Tobirama's political setup.

And that is just a short list of his colossal criminal acts. I haven't even touched upon Kabuto, a woman wantonly killed when she ran an orphanage, and killing of Yahiko who was the original leader of Akatsuki through yet another political conspiracy with Hanzo, and god knows how many else he dispatched in the process.

By and by, this 'Evil' word for Uchiha Clan is very immature and nonsensical, when there is overwhelming evidence against this. Look at the bigger picture here. If one incorporates all practices concerning Konoha, 'Will of Fire' seems like some sort of Ugly 'Black Humour' which is so distasteful, cruel, and despicable that one doesn't even want to laugh. And somehow, the disgustingly ironic reality is that Naruto wins hearts through it and so have many others.

Utterly disgusting. The answer to your question : Sasuke was never evil. Not once during the entire Manga.
Narutos belief in this system solving troubles is beyond laughable and stupid. Fact remains: SAsuke has completed EVERY mission he set his sights on. NAruto? Still a failure in regards to saving the world. I wonder where it puts him. My obvious choice is Sasuke.

On a more comical note, arrogance has little or nothing to do with Maturity. Some of you type the miost immature and redundant shit which makes little sense.
 
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