Who developed Ninjutsu? Indra?

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Somebody said Indra developed Ninjutsu.

I thought Hago and Madara stated the shinobi world developed ninjutsu after being tired of understanding one another.

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The second one ?
 

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Indra didn't develop ninjutsu, he was just another follower.

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As Madara explained in the manga it was the humans who were bitter with hatred that shifted from Ninsuu to Ninjutsu. We don't even know if the first one to experience hatred was Indra. That is a question you must save to ask BZ.
 

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the databook says that indra invented ninjutsu if i remember correctly.
 

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Indra didn't develop ninjutsu, he was just another follower.

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As Madara explained in the manga it was the humans who were bitter with hatred that shifted from Ninsuu to Ninjutsu. We don't even know if the first one to experience hatred was Indra. That is a question you must save to ask BZ.

All I see is a clueless Sakura.
 

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Indra didn't develop ninjutsu, he was just another follower.

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As Madara explained in the manga it was the humans who were bitter with hatred that shifted from Ninsuu to Ninjutsu. We don't even know if the first one to experience hatred was Indra. That is a question you must save to ask BZ.
the article about the secret of ninjutsu in the last DB stated that Indra used his genius to turn Hagoromo's teachings into ninjutsu. What Madara read about that was most likely part of BZ's editing job.
 
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Put the Databook info here
 

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Wouldn't Indra be included in the people who used ninshu the wrong way that Madara spoke of.

Assuming Ninjutsu developed after Hagoromo's death...Indra could have inspired others to pursue weaponizing chakra...If anyone witnessed the clash between him and Ashura.
 

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Shinobi developed ninjutsu after witnessing Hagoromo, Indra and Ashura's abilities, Ootsutsuki used ninjutsu but weren't aware that it was actually ninjutsu, to them it was just as natural as using a sword or a shuriken.
 

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Technically, Indra was the one who used his powers for ninjutsu. So I'll say he is the first user (excluding Kaguya). People later followed Indra's footsteps. Much like Madara was the first one to defect, the rest of the Uchiha clan later followed.
 

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Hagoromo developed Ninshu which was originally followed by both Indra and Ashura, however Indra modified Ninshuu and invented Ninjutsu and everyone followed it. Meaning Indra was far more successful than Hagoromo in spreading his teaching across the world U_U
 

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Technically, Indra was the one who used his powers for ninjutsu. So I'll say he is the first user (excluding Kaguya). People later followed Indra's footsteps. Much like Madara was the first one to defect, the rest of the Uchiha clan later followed.

The senji clan and other clans created far more ninjutsu than the Uchiha clan. tobirama take the major pick. Created edo jutsu. But The Uchiha clan used their sharingan, taijutsu, and bukijutsu to fight. other clans used ninjutsu more. So really can't say Indra used ninjutsu first.
 

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The senji clan and other clans created far more ninjutsu than the Uchiha clan. tobirama take the major pick. Created edo jutsu. But The Uchiha clan used their sharingan, taijutsu, and bukijutsu to fight. other clans used ninjutsu more. So really can't say Indra used ninjutsu first.

He used chakra for power "first", so he is the inventor. Others can surpass him later.
 

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He used chakra for power "first", so he is the inventor. Others can surpass him later.

Since Indra lost the fight, Wouldn't everybody sided with Ashura? When your leader lose in term of ideal, majority of people would go to the opposite side. If the senju clan know the history, they wouldn't try to make dangerous ninjutsu such as edo tensei. I just think there was other people using ninjutsu before Indra and so.
 

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Since Indra lost the fight, Wouldn't everybody sided with Ashura? When your leader lose in term of ideal, majority of people would go to the opposite side. If the senju clan know the history, they wouldn't try to make dangerous ninjutsu such as edo tensei. I just think there was other people using ninjutsu before Indra and so.

This still doesn't take away from what I said. I'll give you the same example. Madara lost, so many Uchihas defected to Senju i.e. Hashirama as leader. But later on they got tired of it, and resorted to the Madara way.
 

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Indra was the god that invented Ninjutsu. Databook says this explicitly.

This is pretty incredible seeing as Ashura got Hagaromo power up( yin and yang half) and Indra after inventing ninjutsu was able to stalemate him.
 

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Indra was the god that invented Ninjutsu. Databook says this explicitly.

This is pretty incredible seeing as Ashura got Hagaromo power up( yin and yang half) and Indra after inventing ninjutsu was able to stalemate him.

Just made Indra even more badass! Redefine shit to stalemate his father's power. Ugh!
 

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Just made Indra even more badass! Redefine shit to stalemate his father's power. Ugh!

I know right? After I found out, I realized that Indra was the most badass transmigrant(or whatever you would call him) ever. Databook says that Hagaromo chose Ashura as his successor( and from manga, we know hagaromo gave him both halves) and then Indra got pissed and went away for a while. When he came back he had invented ninjutsu and took on Ashura and stalemated him( they both died).

Since there really is no back story, I like to imagine that Indra was 3T level prior to Hagaromo choosing Ashura. Then when he picked his brother over him, Indra lost it and unlocked mangyekou. In addition to that, after inventing ninjutsu he could take on Ashura + yin and yang half.

Basically, Ashura would have been fighting like Kaguya did. Just Raw chakra. While Indra would have been able to fight that same way but also use ninjutsu and Mangyekou tech.

Either ways, Indra is god tier or demi god tier (sasuke/naruto teir) without any handouts whatsoever. Even Hashi couldn't get anywhere near this level. So sad we can't get an arc on them.
 

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maybe ninjutsu developed gradually with the generations following indra/ashura
id like to think it started right after the brothers clashed in their avatars
 
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